List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[MyManLynch]

Keep our powder dry for 2022 draft or trade capital for King.
Keep our options open for 2022.
If 27 can do it…consider it.

 

[Harry O]

Moving on from North …

… would GWS be incentivised to bid on Daicos at pick 2 to help their later pick position? For example, GWS are currently holding pick 53. The earlier Daicos and Darcy are called out, the better that pick 53 becomes. Best case for GWS they call out Darcy at 2 and Daicos at 3, and their pick 53 would become a pick around 45. If Daicos and Darcy go later, then their pick 53 might be closer to pick 49 or 48.

GWS are only likely to have the list spots to take their 2 first rounders plus the Next Gen Josh Fahey

 

[legendstatus]

For a player who averages 10 games a year and was taken in the 20’s? No. Pick 27 should get the deal done.

It’s what it’ll take for a guy with a year to go on his contract - if we are serious


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[Obese Arachnid]

Future 1st for Bobby Hill. C'mon who said that?

Dave Matthews.

 

[stormskye]

Since requesting a trade hill seems to have become the next Cyril Rioli

 

[Apex36]

It’s what it’ll take for a guy with a year to go on his contract - if we are serious


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We shouldnt be going anywhere near a deal like that. And it’s unlikely that GWS would hold him against his wishes with unreasonable trade demands. I don’t see any club giving up a first round pick for him.

 

[ksardog]

future first?
The valuation of players is out of hand

so is the valuation of draft picks, it’s the proven product v the unknown quantity.

 

[slugger01]

Better taking the better players in national draft while they are available rather than risk them not being available in rookie draft

Yeah, but you can only upgrade rookies if they are on your rookie list and contracted (and you have available list spots on your list).
So those players you delisted can’t be drafted unless they nominate for the draft. There’s the risk for those.
And same will apply to the rookie draft…

 

[Jen2310]

Since requesting a trade hill seems to have become the next Cyril Rioli

Cyril who? lol

 

[Johno9911]

More out of curiosity than anything - if we were to trade our 27 for Hill, could we trade the future picks we got from Freo and GC to get back in the 2021 second round if needs be for Daicos points?

 

[Jen2310]

It’s probably way overs but Bobby HI’ll and GWS future 1st for our future 1st?

No way.
I'd not give away our future 1st for a small forward and a pick that could be pick 13 upwards.

 

[Prochard123]

It’s probably way overs but Bobby HI’ll and GWS future 1st for our future 1st?

Why do you hate the club?

 

[Crazy Tails]

As much as Hill would be nice we aren’t in the market for a contracted best 22 player this off season.

GW and crew just need to focus on getting & keeping the necessary Daicos (Dib) points, nabbing our couple of cheap out of contract fringe types (Lip & Kreuger) and if possible getting another 2022 pick back in.

Back in Ginnivan/McCreery to be our small goal kicking pressure forwards.

Next year is the year we can try and get back in the bigger fish market (with our first and future first).


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[TradeDraft]

If the dogs have offer Lipinski 3 years they must really value him and are desperate to keep him. to keep him

Cats Offered Kreuger 3 Years and that trade was very Smooth

 

[South of the Yarra]

Where have I been? I must have missed Hill’s 97 goal season last year when he equalised Daic’s record for the most goals in a season for a non key position forward.

 

[Roverjg]

Foxfooty.com.au says: Essentially sold their 2022 farm in order to ensure they had enough points to match any bid for father-son prospect Nick Daicos, who is widely seen as a top-two prospect, if not the No. 1 guy at this year’s draft. They fully expect to pick up young Bulldog Patrick Lipinski either by trade or through the pre-season draft and have brought in Nathan Kreuger from Geelong for extra height up forward to assist Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

29

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

and Brody Mihocek

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Brody Mihocek

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

8.2

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

G

1.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

.

So according to fox footy giving up a 2nd rounder in 2022 is selling our 2022 farm. Seriously who employs these people!

The same mob that bring you Robbo and Ralphy.... Newscorp. Not a brain amongst them

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[Mudeo]

I would rather get Michael Gibbons

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Michael Gibbons

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

4.6

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

3star

G

0.9

4star

D

13.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.2

3star

for nothing tbh

 

[Kappa]

I would rather get Michael Gibbons for nothing tbh

I would rather get nothing than Michael Gibbons tbh

 

[Pedro]

Am I the only one who think Bobby Hill is one of the more over rated players in the AFL? I realise I probably am, but more than happy to give that one a miss

I don't get the call to bring him in either. I thought I was the only one and must be missing something.

 

[Babylove]

I understand us enquiring about Hill. But if the asking price is a future 1st rounder then walk away. He’d be a nice addition to our forward line but as others have said you don’t spend 1st rounders on small forwards especially 1st rounders that are ecpected to be a top 5 pick.

Assuming our future 1st becomes tradable again (which it currently isn’t) we need to put a premium on it. If it’s not netting us someone like McDonald/Ugle-Hagan etc or a top 5 pick this year to nab someone like Callahan then hold for next year.

 

[ClaytonM]

I would rather get nothing than Michael Gibbons tbh

If we are looking to maintain some 25+ Year old depth players on the list would you rather we retain Thomas or replace with Gibbons?

And don’t say neither.

 

[snagbreac]

As part of the fallout/review we said we were going to stop trading out draft picks for expensive players. Hill ... no. Bad vibes. He really would be suited to St Kilda or Essendon. We just should be focusing on our cheap additions that don't cost or set us back much at all. A lot of outlets are suggesting we should be bold and daring but that's what got us into the problem that we have now. We tried to buy a premiership. Veto our way to a flag when we probably should have just backed off, made smart selections and not let as many of our 2010 playing group walk.

Melbourne's Afterpay strategy will come undone one day. Essendon's moneyball isn't guaranteed (buyer beware if the price is as low as you think). And Hawthorn's blind fire sale is just stupid. This trade period we've made smart trades. We haven't done anything stupid. We've done intelligent moves which benefit us. We're not trying to cheat the system, we're working with it for players who can't get games but are good enough.

 

[snagbreac]

If we are looking to maintain some 25+ Year old depth players on the list would you rather we retain Thomas or replace with Gibbons?

And don’t say neither.

I like Gibbons but I'd prefer a defender. Our defensive stocks are low and defenders are difficult to find.

 

[inxs88]

Interesting to see that Mitch Cleary has already had enough time to be rinsed "clean" after the day spa debacle...

Day spa debacle?

 

[ClaytonM]

I like Gibbons but I'd prefer a defender. Our defensive stocks are low and defenders are difficult to find.

‘Our best 6 are top notch. After that it gets thin I agree.

I thought the argument was that defenders are a dime a dozen. That is part of the ‘Moore needs to play forward’ argument. Not that I agree.