List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[Mollythedolly]

He's an ex AFL player who would talk to his AFL player mates about their contract? Also he had an AFL player agent who would know what contracts other players get...

So he’s had a chat with all 800 odd players? Love that level dedication. I guess having 15-20% of players in any given year being 1st and 2nd year national draftees who have annual contract growth built into the EBA helps his argument but I doubt that’s what he’d be referring to.

My guess, he’s guessing and tried to overly inflate the figure to make himself sound more important. My guess is that the larger majority of players who aren’t 1st or 2nd year draftees lack the power in negotiations with clubs to dictate salary rises aligned to TPP growth.

How many players at Collingwood do you think would have salary increases linked to TPP in their contracts?

 

[Kappa]

So he’s had a chat with all 800 odd players? Love that level dedication. I guess having 15-20% of players in any given year being 1st and 2nd year national draftees who have annual contract growth built into the EBA helps his argument but I doubt that’s what he’d be referring to.

My guess, he’s guessing and tried to overly inflate the figure to make himself sound more important. My guess is that the larger majority of players who aren’t 1st or 2nd year draftees lack the power in negotiations with clubs to dictate salary rises aligned to TPP growth.

How many players at Collingwood do you think would have salary increases linked to TPP in their contracts?

He had a manager who would know exactly what contracts most AFL players are getting and that manager would tell Kane...

 

[JLC]

He coached 2014-2016
Mcstay was drafted in 2013


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There is an old article where it mentions that Leppa was the person to switch McStay forward.

 

[JLC]

I’m really keen on Cam Zurharr over Bobby Hill.

He would just absolutely finish off our small to mid sized forwards.

Plus he’d come cheaply given he’s been play like s**t in a rubbish team and out of contract. Could almost be simply some kind of bundle of our third round picks.

Zurharr is a better player (so far) but Hill will suit our game plan much better. However, we cannot afford to over pay.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Pies’ staggering rise has shifted the AFL’s trade landscape. It makes this trade period even bigger

Pies’ staggering rise has shifted the AFL’s trade landscape. Now $13m is at stake

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[Bianconeri]

I’m really keen on Cam Zurharr over Bobby Hill.

He would just absolutely finish off our small to mid sized forwards.

Plus he’d come cheaply given he’s been play like s**t in a rubbish team and out of contract. Could almost be simply some kind of bundle of our third round picks.

I think a genuine small like Hill complements the group allot better than another medium like Zurharr.

 

[neilk]

Again, McStays deal is front loaded...

So, what will it be over the life of the contract? Average per year?

 

[Anzacday]

I think a genuine small like Hill complements the group allot better than another medium like Zurharr.

Agreed, Jack is 185, Beau is 186 and Bobby is 175.
Bobby brings a different dynamic again.

 

[manicpie]

There's a good article on Zero hanger about why McStay would be a good fit for us

 

[KinderSmock]

Pies’ staggering rise has shifted the AFL’s trade landscape. It makes this trade period even bigger

Pies’ staggering rise has shifted the AFL’s trade landscape. Now $13m is at stake

www.foxsports.com.au

Fox is struggling with our success. Last year, we were wooden spooners according to them and definitely would be down there again in 2022. I know a few people who thought we'd have the number one pick, maybe number two at least pick five at the best. I think it's safe to say we won't have a selection that good this year from our ladder position.

 

[Jen2310]

There is an old article where it mentions that Leppa was the person to switch McStay forward.

yeah, I read that too. Or heard someone mention it.

 

[BuildEmUp]

There's a good article on Zero hanger about why McStay would be a good fit for us

...
Shaw didn’t see McStay as the answer to Collingwood’s key forward void — querying if there were other options available that may even cost more — but said the 152-gamer would still be a valuable addition to the side that could even be played as a key defender.

“He’s not a massive key forward, but he’s a smart player,” the 1990 premiership skipper said of McStay.

“At $600,0000 it’s cheap in terms of getting a player across the line for a long period of time. Pretty ordinary players are getting $400,0000 now.

“You wouldn’t want to spend any more on him, there's no doubt about that. But I like the way he goes about it, he’s a competitor … $600,000 isn’t over the ante that much.”

I agree it is not great $$ amount over .. and the guy can play in back line as well.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Daicos and Macrae put pen to paper

Josh Daicos and Finlay Macrae commit to Collingwood

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[Jen2310]

Daicos and Macrae put pen to paper

Josh Daicos and Finlay Macrae commit to Collingwood

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

On SM-G981B using BigFooty.com mobile app

But thought Fin was unhappy? lol

 

[neilk]

But thought Fin was unhappy? lol

A huge endorsement of the coaching team, IMHO.

 

[MyManLynch]

Daicos and Macrae put pen to paper

Josh Daicos and Finlay Macrae commit to Collingwood

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

On SM-G981B using BigFooty.com mobile app

Draft night 6 years ago…

 

[Cobalt King]

Was hoping for a longer term for Josh or does that take him to FA? Would have thought their were other priorities ahead of Fin given his mediocre form (last week was probably his best game this season) but there is a player there and hopefully can step up in the next two years. Let's get Henry done!!

I've always thought it would come down to Elliott, WHE and JDG as the last 3 out of contract that we want to retain (there's a few that will be let go) and I'm worried one of those 3 could be squeezed out, thought WHE would probably go but his last month or so has been very good

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Was hoping for a longer term for Josh or does that take him to FA? Would have thought their were other priorities ahead of Fin given his mediocre form (last week was probably his best game this season) but there is a player there and hopefully can step up in the next two years. Let's get Henry done!!

I've always thought it would come down to Elliott, WHE and JDG as the last 3 out of contract that we want to retain (there's a few that will be let go) and I'm worried one of those 3 could be squeezed out, thought WHE would probably go but his last month or so has been very good

Yeah, two years takes him to free agency.

 

[KinderSmock]

Yeah, two years takes him to free agency.

Which he will explore but not take. I hope.

I don't like the AFL's model for the Tasmanian teams. It sees KPPs leave, then all the eggs go into one basket across the affected clubs at the draft. And there won't be that much talent to compensate. If 5 elite players are lost, unlikely to be 5 players of that level unless a super draft occurs. Think better, AFL.

 

[Jen2310]

Which he will explore but not take. I hope.

I don't like the AFL's model for the Tasmanian teams. It sees KPPs leave, then all the eggs go into one basket across the affected clubs at the draft. And there won't be that much talent to compensate. If 5 elite players are lost, unlikely to be 5 players of that level unless a super draft occurs. Think better, AFL.

Wont even explore. But most players use this as it usually brings up a big offer from your current club

 

[Mollythedolly]

He had a manager who would know exactly what contracts most AFL players are getting and that manager would tell Kane...

So a manager just breached the confidence of all his clients, and guessed on all the others? How many players did the manager predict?

And how many players at Collingwood would have salaries linked to TPP?

 

[stormskye]

Daicos and Macrae put pen to paper

Josh Daicos and Finlay Macrae commit to Collingwood

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

On SM-G981B using BigFooty.com mobile app

This is great news about macrae, been big on him and he’s had plenty of doubt by a few

 

[sideswipe]

So a manager just breached the confidence of all his clients, and guessed on all the others? How many players did the manager predict?

And how many players at Collingwood would have salaries linked to TPP?

It is getting more and more common - especially for the longer term deals.

 

[Kappa]

So a manager just breached the confidence of all his clients, and guessed on all the others? How many players did the manager predict?

And how many players at Collingwood would have salaries linked to TPP?

You seriously don’t think player agents tell their clients what kind of contracts other players are getting? Or they don’t talk to other player agents? Half of them work for the same company

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Would have thought their were other priorities ahead of Fin given his mediocre form (last week was probably his best game this season) but there is a player there and hopefully can step up in the next two years. Let's get Henry done!!

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