List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[Gabbo64]

We could always offer them Henry

Gees you're funny. You should have been a comedian. Or maybe you are.

 

[PREETY_FLY]

Can anyone who hates this trade explain why to me?

Me too. I’m waiting to hear!

 

[wicksy]

People love to whinge

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Because we certainly will have other plans in place to get back into this draft (or next)

If we end up with another pick or two to go with Daicos and Dib that would be a great outcome.

If we pick up daicos dib lipinski Stengle Kreuger and a draftee this year on top of the 12 players last year, and a first round pick and a free agent next year...... hopefully it won’t matter that we don’t have a second or third round pick. That should be a solid foundation to build on.

And if we want one, we can trade one in!!!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

So for those watching at home, we currently have 22, 36, 41, 43, 46, 48, 58, 79 in the 2021 ND.

We have a 2022 first rounder, the GC’s 2022 fourth and our own 2022 fifth.

 

[Everybody Panic]

Makes me laugh, traded future first because we didn't need it, club have now traded a stack of future picks to get Daicos.

I mean, we stacked up on picks last year, it gives you the flexibility to do this, especially of we rated the draft last year.

 

[mullpig88]

On nick d, it would not surprise me, if north don’t bid, and that he get to four before he is bid on

I’m thinking the same. Might have a gentleman’s agreement with GWS last year when we gave them pick 2 and now the same with GC in this afternoons trade that they don’t bid on him. If North are feeling friendly as well then he may slide to 4 and we end up in a much better position than we’re all stressing about


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[Scribe26]

Me too. I’m waiting to hear!

Could be a natural inclination to melt?

The trade looks like astounding business to me. We keep our best asset (future first) and webring our other assets forward 12 months, when they're needed most.

Mind you, we could finish in the bottom four again and the value still lines up. Gold Coast couldn't have been kinder to us here.

It's day one of trade week. We have the flexibility we're after. We've ticked the Daics/Dib box and, depending on what cost Lipinski/Krueger have, we could have some extra picks left to target some other young talent in the draft.

 

[Scodog10]

Can anyone who hates this trade explain why to me?

I don’t think anyone “hates” it. If you read through I think everyone with half a mind for how this stuff works is hedging their bets on what we do with 22. For instance Apex36 has probably gone hardest, but my sense is if we flip 22 into a usable draft pick this ones a winner to him. Am I right?

 

[Rorzza]

GW is a jet.........Just Do It!

 

[Jen2310]

daicos goes pick 1, what’s our current deficit?

0

We now just about 3,000 points. EVEN if it was at pick 1, thats only 2400, plenty left over.
If it was pick 2 it would cost 2,014 points.
Pick 3 - 1,788, which would leave over 1,000 points left over.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I don’t think it’s a win yet, it will depend on what we do with 22.
To me it gives us a bit flexibility this draft and trade period

If it’s not a loss, it’s a win. Collingwood and the Suns had different motivations.

Win win trade

 

[Scodog10]

Gees you're funny. You should have been a comedian. Or maybe you are.

Cheers I thought it was some of my best work

 

[Ingy]

We now need to add 3.

Trade #22 out for something of equivalent value.

Lipinski, and the Dogs future 2nd rounder

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Can anyone who hates this trade explain why to me?

We had 36, 41, 43 and 48. Together they went close to matching a bid at #3 and would have matched a bid at #4, I believe.

Now we have given up our 2022 second rounder, for pick 22 and some more later 2021 picks.

If a bid for Daicos comes in and we haven’t traded back out of 22, then that is the first pick which disappears. NOT all the later picks we’ve been stockpiling. We would keep those later picks and if we wanted to use them, turn over half our list for players who are not highly rated.

Presumably, we haven’t lost our minds and we will trade 22 out again. After last year, I hope it’s not for magic beans.

 

[Masked Magician]

Do people seriously think we will use pick 22 to be absorbed by ND bid?

Regardless, what a deal from GW, as others have said we now can't be bent over with any excuse of ND points. The PSD a live option as well now!

Over the moon we have gotten this done.

 

[Jafo]

I would think we'll trade pick 22. For example, to Bulldogs for Lipinski and their future 2nd, which would get us back into 2022's 2nd round.
We might trade for other picks in this year's draft, 22 for Richmond's 38 & 42 - worth about the same points.
I'm sure something like this is in the works.

We could always offer them Henry

seems our biggest bargaining chip right now

 

[Moore of the Same]

I’m thinking the same. Might have a gentleman’s agreement with GWS last year when we gave them pick 2 and now the same with GC in this afternoons trade that they don’t bid on him. If North are feeling friendly as well then he may slide to 4 and we end up in a much better position than we’re all stressing about


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I sincerely hope we didn't assume that our pick would be high enough to even threaten a Daicos bid, given that even last year Daicos was touted as a top 5 pick. It presumes that the club knew we would finish near the bottom and traded the pick out anyway.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Good deal.

Have enough points for Daicos, and we retain next year's 1st round pick.

 

[Everybody Panic]

I recon Geelong and Richmond will want our 22. We could benefit from it.

 

[Cata_Pendles]

Does anyone know when we are meant to lodge our delistings? keen to see who is cut/who makes the cut!

 

[unplugged]

Imagine if we're only half shit next year (not fully shit like this year). We'll be laughing in the Suns' faces!

 

[Moore of the Same]

Imagine if we're only half sh*t next year (not fully sh*t like this year). We'll be laughing in the Suns' faces!

Personally, and I might just be overly optimistic, I don't think we'll finish bottom three next year.

 

[Kappa]

So for those watching at home, we currently have 22, 36, 41, 43, 46, 48, 58, 79 in the 2021 ND.

We have a 2022 first rounder, the GC’s 2022 fourth and our own 2022 fifth.

Thank god we hung onto our own 5th.

 

[AmericanMustard]

Imagine if we're only half sh*t next year (not fully sh*t like this year). We'll be laughing in the Suns' faces!

I’ll be laughing at them if we finish last.


….when we take Ben King pick 1 of the PSD