List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[TW Sherrin]

I'm tipping we say thanks but no thanks, and we're going to the draft...

I hope they find a deal and get Houston. Picks in the teens are a lottery and by the time he develops Pendles is retired.

Lets get a very good player now and try to win in '25.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Getting confused about Houston now.

Do we have a problem?

 

[FIGJAM]

No surprise here, he Konstantly missed out on selection at the swans.

Did he throw a 'tanty?

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Leppa said they also want to get into the first round of the draft, so imagine thats where pick 23 comes in.

I odn't understand how Gold Coast don't see Noble as worth pick 23

If Rioli is worth pick 6, then Noble is 100% worth 23

 

[Gabbo64]

I hope they find a deal and get Houston. Picks in the teens are a lottery and by the time he develops Pendles is retired.

Lets get a very good player now and try to win in '25.

I'm on the wrong side of 70 and want to see another flag. Houston could help us get one in 2025. Get the deal done, pleeeeeeeeease.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Getting confused about Houston now.

Do we have a problem?

I think Carlton are right back in it. They should be because he is exactly what they need.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

This deal sounds Iike it's doing Leppa's head in.....lol

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

I odn't understand how Gold Coast don't see Noble as worth pick 23

If Rioli is worth pick 6, then Noble is 100% worth 23

Isn't it that Gold Coast think Noble is worth 13 - not 13+23?

 

[Apex36]

Could turn the draft upside down.

It’s anyone’s guess who could end up on top.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

I think Carlton are right back in it. They should be because he is exactly what they need.

What are they going to give 12 and what?

They used their F1 and 2 in the pick swap

They will want to use 12 or 14 in the draft

 

[gouki88]

I think Carlton are right back in it. They should be because he is exactly what they need.

I don't think they have the coin necessary

 

[sr36]

Giving up a first-rounder to move up five (!) spots in the teens… not the top ten… is batshit.

Not if you believe there's a bigger gap between the first baker's dozen and who you'll get at 17 than the gap between 21 and who you'll get next

 

[VinnieB]

I odn't understand how Gold Coast don't see Noble as worth pick 23

If Rioli is worth pick 6, then Noble is 100% worth 23

I think there is a ginger tax.
There is no way Rioli is worth pick 6. Noble isn't far off him.

Maybe you also need to fact in the Mr Hardwick bias.

 

[3rdMan]

He will but hes going to try and squeeze everything he can out of them first rather than take the first offer. I like this trade period with some backbone kind of stuff

Leppa has a couple things in his favour here:
1) both Port and Suns want something from us, Port also want something from Suns who want a good return from Port. The deal for Houston is intertwined with others and it's unlikely it gets separated.

2) even though Houston did not nominate a club, we are the only ones who have made a serious play for him. In my view this puts us in a stronger position than if he had nominated. There's been an "open" process and Port did not get better offers than ours. The way Carlton have played it to this point means there's a very good chance we can keep pick 23.

 

[nahnah]

I’m surprised the media didn’t try milk some articles from that blues trade over the weekend

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

I don't think they have the coin necessary

Plus their salary cap is bulging and are yet to re-sign Weitering...

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I must admit Leppitsch didn't fill me with much confidence in actually been able to get the Houston deal done.
Sounds like if it gets to complicated and requires too much in picks etc we're willing to pull out.

Leppa being confident the other day got all the journo's in a fluster, so perhaps he's just playing it cool today & keeping his cards closer to his chest.

 

[Basil brush]

I think Carlton are right back in it. They should be because he is exactly what they need.

Do Carlton have the cap space?

Anyway, I am interested to see if Port are asking too much for Houston, and if sun's not giving us what we want for noble, whether we keep Noble and re-sign Richards. Richards would obviously have to agree and Noble have to be happy to stay.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Leppa being confident the other day got all the journo's in a fluster, so perhaps he's just playing it cool today & keeping his cards closer to his chest.

Or he just realised how hard this deal to get done, will be.....

 

[Apex36]

The chance Carlton just don’t have the cap space for Houston and are being used to ensure we pay a higher price feels likely to me

I think you’re probably right tbh. I’d wager that if anyone had been willing to take Kennedy and Owies off their hands they might have had the room, but with the lack of interest there’s probably just not enough room in their cap to add Houston right now.

 

[VinnieB]

I would even throw Fin in the deal. Any deal. Whatever it takes.
Whoever wants him. Port entering the VFL need good VFL ready players.

 

[Chameleon75]

Isn't it that Gold Coast think Noble is worth 13 - not 13+23?

they’re not offering pick 13, that comes from a trade of 1st’s, they’re basically trying to leverage our interest in Houston to get noble for 2/5ths of FA

 

[3rdMan]

Getting confused about Houston now.

Do we have a problem?

Looks all good for for a safe arrival. Leppa's jumped into the simulator to work out the final details.

 

[Apex36]

If you’re the Swans; (19 + 21) > (14).

It’s been reported they offered those picks for 13, so not sure a 1 pick difference would change their minds that much?

 

[nahnah]

I think you’re probably right tbh. I’d wager that if anyone had been willing to take Kennedy and Owies off their hands they might have had the room, but with the lack of interest there’s probably just not enough room in their cap to add Houston right now.

I think Owies is out of contract so he likely doesnt really impact their cap, i think they just want rid of the spud