List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[celestial]

GC can always downgrade 12 to pick 15-16 . Use those extra picks towards its academy players and on trade the new pick to us for Noble.

 

[Big Bryza]

Bevo is a nut but one of the things he's got right was phasing Macrae out of the midfield, and unfortunately Jack isn't of great use elsewhere. The game doesn't have a lot of space for slow one-dimensional midfielders unless they're elite ball winners and/or distributors. That area of the game has gone past Jack.

Macrae was still getting plenty of it.

The Dogs had another failure of a season.

They're deadset nuts to keep Bevo on.

 

[Ugene41]

Yeah. The Leppa effect.

Good on him. Noblo going nowhere

 

[Big Bryza]

So maybe Noble and our first could possibly nab 12? Or is that a pipe dream?

We haven't got a first.

 

[Mick F]

Can you imagine if we find a way to get both. But neither are in the top 10, so you could get both with say pick 12 and maybe one around pick 20/25
Jack is more higher rated one.

I’m always keen on young talent. Even moreso with Nick - don’t won’t him playing his career out with only the odd final.

Our FD have a very challenging task over the next four years. We wish them well with the recruiting and developing of players.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

I won't be surprised if it's a bigger trade than that.

With where their academy kid is supposedly rated, GC are likely to trade some value into next year. If they hold 12 and 20 they'll probably move both of them.

Something like this could be possible:
Future first, Noble and 3rd rounders
12 and 20

 

[Jen2310]

We haven't got a first.

Assuming meaning F1

 

[partypie]

If Richards leaves, we should get Owies. If we can get him cheap, just do it

Sorry but I'd have to stop watching if we did that.

 

[Lifelong Pie]

Assuming meaning F1

If they meant future first and Noble for pick 12 that would be a horrible deal, I think they meant whatever our first pick is plus noble

 

[Fat Jesus]

I just don’t think Macrae is in Fly’s plans… and fair enough tbh.
Whilst I also wouldn’t hold out hope for Eyre. He looked like a poor man’s Josh Schache when I watched him… poor one vs one, and kicking average. Sorry

His kicking is his 1 iron. Beautiful

 

[partypie]

Jesus, I didn't know he was 30.

I can't see it working for us from a trade and cap perspective, even if you could get your head around how he fits in the best 22.

He looks like a prime candidate for North.

Watching him on the weekend, he's a shadow of the player he once was and the slide has been happing for a couple of years now.

 

[partypie]

So maybe Noble and our first could possibly nab 12? Or is that a pipe dream?

We're really, truly, outstandingly bad at deathriding future first round picks so I reckon it's a hard pass on that one.

 

[stormskye]

We're really, truly, outstandingly bad at deathriding future first round picks so I reckon it's a hard pass on that one.

There’s no death riding. We won’t need it with McGuane. Trading into this year and getting a full 12months development is the better play

 

[loki04]

But spookily it comes before the first pick of the second round.

Either way, we'll have to pay more than Noble to get it if this draft is as deep as everyone says.

Not sure if people are serious about a straight swap of Noble or just setting up to complain about our trading.

It doesn't in a nominal untouched draft.

Only after concessions or priority picks is pick 20 a technical "first rounder".

 

[Obese Arachnid]

We're really, truly, outstandingly bad at deathriding future first round picks so I reckon it's a hard pass on that one.

"We've tried it 17 times before and always failed"

"Ah, but they will never expect it an 18th time!"

 

[loki04]

There’s no death riding. We won’t need it with McGuane. Trading into this year and getting a full 12months development is the better play

That depends on the pick range you get thus year.

We did ND early and then finished 17th...we did not maximise that hand.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Good on him. Noblo going nowhere

Whether he does or not, it's showing due respect to Noble & if he does go & we get a high draft pick for him, it's a win for us too.

And Leppa has announced himself as our genius list manager.

 

[AmericanMustard]

lads I know nothing about the draft. Who are we spending pick 12 on?

 

[stormskye]

lads I know nothing about the draft. Who are we spending pick 12 on?

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' August ranking

 

[BEEG]

There’s no death riding. We won’t need it with McGuane. Trading into this year and getting a full 12months development is the better play

Just need to have someone not named Derek Hine make the pick.

 

[pies17]

So reading the rumors are we any chance of:
Noble hawks 2nd pick and a 2024 3rd rounder for 12
Future 1st for Sydney’s 2 early picks probably our future 3rd included
Richards and other 2024 3rd for port future second. Gives us 3 top 25 picks this year and 2 seconds next year for points

 

[magpies42]

Equivalent to low thirties.

Not worth the trade then, just like it wasn’t worth trading Ginivan for nothing and many before him for substandard deals.

If Schultz cost pick 10 how do you equate Noble for a pick in the 30’s!!

 

[frizzle]

I won't be surprised if it's a bigger trade than that.

With where their academy kid is supposedly rated, GC are likely to trade some value into next year. If they hold 12 and 20 they'll probably move both of them.

Something like this could be possible:
Future first, Noble and 3rd rounders
12 and 20

They still need to trade for Rioli. Tigers are supposedly asking for 2 first round picks. Not that he is worth anywhere near that. I think your scenario is ripping off the Suns a bit. In fact if we got pick 20 for JFN I’d be chuffed.

 

[magpies42]

They still need to trade for Rioli. Tigers are supposedly asking for 2 first round picks. Not that he is worth anywhere near that. I think your scenario is ripping off the Suns big time. In fact if we got pick 20 for JFN I’d be chuffed.

Pick 12 for Noble and a second rounder is fair. Schultz cost us pick 10!!!

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

There’s no death riding. We won’t need it with McGuane. Trading into this year and getting a full 12months development is the better play

Why don't we hold on to our F1 until we know roughly where it will fall, and where McGuane is realistically going to be rated closer to his draft? Then we can trade it out if it falls after where McGuane is projected to go.

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