List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[celestial]

Hopefully we sort out our trades nice and early and give ourselves a shot to be ready for the unexpected. Get the 2 trades done early and have the draft capital ready in hand and also give ourselves the time to perform medicals on players who suddenly become available.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Dont think he'll nominate anyone until his manager thinks the club can get a deal done

Very real chance he may have to stay at port.

I hope if he does stay at Port, the Blues know it's because Perryman chose us over Port.

That would be the icing on the cake.

 

[sr36]

Probs wrong. But i thought if they are contracted to the primary list…..they have to agree to the move.

Albeit if they are going to get delisted…it’s probably a moot argument anyway isn’t it!!!
So the more I think about it, that may have been a covid measure (when you could just move them)

I’d actually be 100% ok with delisting AJ and McRae with a year left rather than rookie them.…so 2 more spots!!

Delisting would just be the mechanism used to move them to the rookie list. If you delist them without rookie listing them it's a salary cap waste, as well as being bad form

 

[Hardas]

I hope if he does stay at Port, the Blues know it's because Perryman chose us over Port.

That would be the icing on the cake.

I'm beginning to think you're really not into Carlton, EM.

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

Delisting would just be the mechanism used to move them to the rookie list. If you delist them without rookie listing them it's a salary cap waste, as well as being bad form

No I’m certain that at some point the player had to agree.
Whether that was during the Covid years (where they didn’t get delisted) I’m not sure.


Either way, the players were talking about we both agree we’d be ok to delist….so it’s really just semantics

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

The draft is about the future
Trading is for the now.
Which is why you find a balance for both.

No it’s not Jen.
Please stop with this line.

Trading is very much so about the future.
Just a shorter term future with far higher certainty.
Pound for pound it’s success rate would be easily double that of the draft.

 

[Mick F]

No it’s not Jen.
Please stop with this line.

Trading is very much so about the future.
Just a shorter term future with far higher certainty.
Pound for pound it’s success rate would be easily double that of the draft.

You come across as being a tad disingenuous. I believe people reading her post(s) know what she means. Trading compliments young talent sourced via the Draft.

The majority of our best players were recruited via the Draft.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

No it’s not Jen.
Please stop with this line.

Trading is very much so about the future.
Just a shorter term future with far higher certainty.
Pound for pound it’s success rate would be easily double that of the draft.

This seems oddly aggressive?

Trading can technically be for both? Some teams 100% trade for the now. Others trade for the medium term. It’s fairly rare a team trades for the long term future.

In the end, unless you’re drafting in the Top 10-15, the draft is far more long term than trades are.

Which I reckon was ultimately Jen’s point

 

[sr36]

This seems oddly aggressive?

Trading can technically be for both? Some teams 100% trade for the now. Others trade for the medium term. It’s fairly rare a team trades for the long term future.

In the end, unless you’re drafting in the Top 10-15, the draft is far more long term than trades are.

Which I reckon was ultimately Jen’s point

It depends on the age of the bloke you're trading in. Guys like Treloar, Aish, Adams, Ollie Henry, Bruhn were traded for from picks from drafts who were very much contemporaries of the guy who was traded in. When Treloar retires, there won't be very many left playing from the drafts we traded out of.

You draft hoping to get a player from year 3-12+. You trade hoping to get a player from year 1- ? Whether it's short, medium or long term depends on the age of the bloke you're trading in.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

It depends on the age of the bloke you're trading in. Guys like Treloar, Aish, Adams, Ollie Henry, Bruhn were traded for from picks from drafts who were very much contemporaries of the guy who was traded in. When Treloar retires, there won't be very many left playing from the drafts we traded out of.

You draft hoping to get a player from year 3-12+. You trade hoping to get a player from year 1- ? Whether it's short, medium or long term depends on the age of the bloke you're trading in.

Obviously

But I’d wager that the average age of blokes being traded most years is probably well over the age of 21

Which to me leans more towards short to medium term impact

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[WakeUpPies]

Honest the media can go and get f…

Clarry wants to go to Geelong = “salary dump! Clarry for second round with Melbourne paying salary!”

Tracc wants to leave because he almost died … linked to Collingwood = “honour your contract Tracc! 2 1sts! He’s contracted!”