List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I find it odd seeing people say "they need replacing"

We've replaced them already. It's the wave after that we need.

Pendles = Nick Daicos
Sidebottom = Josh Daicos
Howe = (would have been) Murphy, could have been Sofronidis, but I guess short term is Dean? Longer term TJ?


But then Nick, Josh et all need support coming through behind them. That's the issue.

Frampton has replaced Murphy already and yes TJ and Dean are next in line to replace Howe , alongside possibly Ryan.

Teams evolve, they always do.

 

[jimmy35]

If you were going to target anyone from Brisbane, I’d target Daniher.
The guy seems a flog, and I hate his pouncy mustacca, but he’d be the perfect forward/ruck for us.

His style would slot right into our game plan.

Dreams are free.

Agree fully with all points. He’d be outstanding for us. Perfect for the whipping boy thread as well.
Also would rankle Essendon fans immensely which is an added bonus.

 

[Rusty Beam]

Ok. I’m going to absolutely contradict my previous statements about only targeting youth (25 yrs or younger).

The more I think about the Western Bulldogs selection shitshow, the more they seem ripe for the picking.

I reckon we could get both Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

and Bailey Dale

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Bailey Dale

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.6

4star

MG

117.4

2star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

1.7

3star

MG

117.4

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

out of the club for peanuts (equivalent of a combined second round pick - probably two third rounders).

Plus them picking up a hefty portion of their remaining contract (Daniel supposedly has 2years at close to $700k / Dale has 3 years left at an unknown but presumably hefty amount).

Dale could be a handy short to medium term replacement for Sidey on an wing and Daniel could add some much needed kicking skills from either the defensive or half forward line.

Sure it doesn’t address the long term, but it will provide us a bit more time to sort it out and cost very little.

Ultimately a reverse Treloar.

 

[jimmy35]

Am i wrong to not rate Rayner ?

Me too. Faux tough guy flash in and out from week to week type for me. Maybe it’s just my bias because I can’t stand him.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Are we able to replace Murph outside of the MSD? Like another SSP?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

 

[Bussie]

Are we able to replace Murph outside of the MSD? Like another SSP?

Anyone you or the Pies have got their eyes on? We must've planned for Murph's retirement as a worst case scenario.

 

[Harry O]

Maybe the recent Sof ‘injury’ was more of a warehousing technique to hide him

 

[No SPIN]

Ok. I’m going to absolutely contradict my previous statements about only targeting youth (25 yrs or younger).

The more I think about the Western Bulldogs selection shitshow, the more they seem ripe for the picking.

I reckon we could get both Caleb Daniel and Bailey Dale out of the club for peanuts (equivalent of a combined second round pick - probably two third rounders).

Plus them picking up a hefty portion of their remaining contract (Daniel supposedly has 2years at close to $700k / Dale has 3 years left at an unknown but presumably hefty amount).

Dale could be a handy short to medium term replacement for Sidey on an wing and Daniel could add some much needed kicking skills from either the defensive or half forward line.

Sure it doesn’t address the long term, but it will provide us a bit more time to sort it out and cost very little.

Ultimately a reverse Treloar.

why do we need Daniel?

 

[gouki88]

Ok. I’m going to absolutely contradict my previous statements about only targeting youth (25 yrs or younger).

The more I think about the Western Bulldogs selection shitshow, the more they seem ripe for the picking.

I reckon we could get both Caleb Daniel and Bailey Dale out of the club for peanuts (equivalent of a combined second round pick - probably two third rounders).

Plus them picking up a hefty portion of their remaining contract (Daniel supposedly has 2years at close to $700k / Dale has 3 years left at an unknown but presumably hefty amount).

Dale could be a handy short to medium term replacement for Sidey on an wing and Daniel could add some much needed kicking skills from either the defensive or half forward line.

Sure it doesn’t address the long term, but it will provide us a bit more time to sort it out and cost very little.

Ultimately a reverse Treloar.

Where would Daniel play? Not interested in him.

Bailey Dale, however, would be a good addition at half-back.

 

[Doc1763]

why do we need Daniel?

he can be our new lead up forward, we've been looking for one since Blair retired.

 

[Doc1763]

Me too. Faux tough guy flash in and out from week to week type for me. Maybe it’s just my bias because I can’t stand him.

The real Cam Rayner was there for all to see in the Grand Final

 

[sr36]

Where would Daniel play? Not interested in him.

Bailey Dale, however, would be a good addition at half-back.

He was a pretty good inside midfield at the start of his career. No idea if he could be resurrected there?

 

[whiskeytown]

why do we need Daniel?

If we only had to pay 500k or so for him he’d be a good pick up

Can play roles in defence, midfield, forward.

And would be one of the best ball users in the side

Probably has 5 years left in him at top level

Dale is 27 too but I think the speed of the game will catch up to him sooner than Daniel

 

[The Royal Sampler]

The real Cam Rayner was there for all to see in the Grand Final

The real Cam Rayner is the flags we won along the way.

 

[Bianconeri]

Where would Daniel play? Not interested in him.

Bailey Dale, however, would be a good addition at half-back.

I’d assume he’d play the Nick Daicos role at HB.

 

[gouki88]

He was a pretty good inside midfield at the start of his career. No idea if he could be resurrected there?

We'd be giving up a lot defensively with him in the middle.

I’d assume he’d play the Nick Daicos role at HB.

Didn't he get moved out of the backline last season because teams were taking advantage of his defensive weakness?

 

[sr36]

We'd be giving up a lot defensively with him in the middle.

Can he not stick a tackle?

 

[ThePhantom777]

English a mill? Not for me. He’s way too uncompetitive.

Got thrashed by Goldstein on the weekend

 

[Babylove]

Are we able to replace Murph outside of the MSD? Like another SSP?

I believe the only in season mechanism to replace him currently is the MSD. SSP are set periods during the off season as are DFA. There has been discussion about bringing in a Mid Season Trade period including trading for draft picks but it hasn’t been brought in this year.

 

[gouki88]

Can he not stick a tackle?

I think he can 'stick' tackles... okay? Okay at best. His defensive work I50 as a forward last season was to my eye poor, and he gets brushed aside easily. I don't think I'd want to be pairing him with De Goey and Daicos, who are already attacking-minded

 

[brysie]

I didn't realise that Daniel has played 180 games for the Dogs. I always thought he was a bit younger than he is.

Critics of his are saying that teams are playing through his man at half forward due to his inability to challenge in the air.

To me he's someone who could play the role that Ginnivan is currently playing at Hawthorn - start in the forward half but push up the ground onto the wings where he can either be used around stoppage or as an outlet kick who can then subsequently set up field position and maintain possession.

The outlet kick when exiting back 50 (if a team can't go straight through the middle) appears to either be a long kick down the line or a short kick 45 degrees to just backward of centre wing. Hitting the short option doesn't completely negate a team's ability to re-enter the corridor, but requires someone with a precise kick, which is what Daniel has.

 

[TradeDraft]

Feel sorry for SOS as he been on the AFL List IF Murphy retried last year

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Feel sorry for SOS as he been on the AFL List IF Murphy retried last year

Who?

 

[manicpie]

Daniel is a gun, the coach is an idiot. Daniel plays a sweeping role in defence and can hit a 20 cent piece from 40mtrs away. I believe at least half the competition would be very interested in him. I also think he can be gotten on the cheap.