List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[Kappa]

It would be cheaper to just fix AJ’s application.

Johnson has been on the list for a while now and his defensive application has not improved at all.

 

[jmac70]

Johnson has been on the list for a while now and his defensive application has not improved at all.

You like to make big sweeping statements

 

[ellesbells]

Cox - Allen
Howe - Taylor
Pendlebury- LDU
Sidebottom - Smith/Holmes

if they pull off something like this over the next 18 months that they've targeted we'll be in the window for years.

 

[Drought Break]

To make you feel a bit better it was really only one. We picked up Quaynor through bidding and would have lost the pick anyway.

That eases it a little

In hindsight it appears Treloar may have been our trade that’s hurt the most. Through no fault of his own. Played ok but not to the level we hoped for

Pick 7 in 2015 with names such as Charlie curnow, McKay brothers taken at 10 and 12 which would fill a gaping hole in our list and then pick 8 2016 with players such as Shai Bolton, Tim English, Marshall taken after

Then again through no fault of his own we moved him on paying him to play for another club

 

[jmac70]

It is exactly what the AFL would do - just like Dimma going to the Suns.

GW is conveniently on a sabbatical.

I don’t think many other sports would have so much interference from the governing body.

What role did the AFL play in getting GW to take a holiday?

 

[jmac70]

That eases it a little

In hindsight it appears Treloar may have been our trade that’s hurt the most. Through no fault of his own. Played ok but not to the level we hoped for

Pick 7 in 2015 with names such as Charlie curnow, McKay brothers taken at 10 and 12 which would fill a gaping hole in our list and then pick 8 2016 with players such as Shai Bolton, Tim English, Marshall taken after

Then again through no fault of his own we moved him on paying him to play for another club

…and then went on to win the flag.

 

[jamieb1983]

Cox - Allen
Howe - Taylor
Pendlebury- LDU
Sidebottom - Smith

if they pull off something like this over the next 18 months that they've targeted we'll be in the window for years.

Zero chance any of this happens

 

[Jen2310]

Cox - Allen
Howe - Taylor
Pendlebury- LDU
Sidebottom - Smith

if they pull off something like this over the next 18 months that they've targeted we'll be in the window for years.

The first 3 wont leave, and the 4th will be at hawks or geelong.

 

[ellesbells]

The first 3 wont leave, and the 4th will be at hawks or geelong.

Ahh yes and Buddy will be at GWS, it aint over til it's over and I'd prefer to dream big.

 

[Kappa]

You like to make big sweeping statements

You think his defensive efforts this year were better than last year?

 

[jmac70]

You think his defensive efforts this year were better than last year?

You said he hasn’t improved “at all.”

Assuming you meant from the day he walked in the club.

 

[sr36]

So true - the unintended consequences of the list aging while we seek out and develop these 1st rounders is never considered.
All of a sudden another rebuild is needed, and the Club is even further away from a flag.

Yep. How lucky would we need to be to jag the quality of JDG and Moore from two first round picks not in the top 5? And by the time these two draftees became as good as Jordy and Darcy - Jordy and Darcy will be gone and we will have needed to have jagged a few more rippers as well to have also replaced the oldies.

With only one first round pick a year, you've got to be ridiculously lucky to try to rebuild that way.

 

[Apex36]

#SR36 and #apex would be drooling at the prospect of getting Keller

Im not sure bringing in a dead disability rights activist is the smartest move, although it would be a hell of a PR stunt.

On the off chance you’re referring to Keeler, has he finished his 2km time trial yet?

 

[manicpie]

Im not sure bringing in a dead disability rights activist is the smartest move, although it would be a hell of a PR stunt.

On the off chance you’re referring to Keeler, has he finished his 2km time trial yet?

I really should have paid more attention at school

 

[well left]

Possible Talls that would not cost a 1st



There are a bunch of talls I would have at Collingwood but most of them would cost an arm and a leg.



Max Gruzewski (GWS) Age: 19 Height: 192 = plays at either end and was compared to Jeremy Howe

38

Jeremy Howe

Age

34

Ht

190cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

21.5

5star

K

16.5

5star

HB

5.0

3star

M

6.5

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

433.3

5star

D

15.2

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

in draft year



Wade Derksen (GWS) Age: 22 Height: 197 (on the GWS site it says 194 but everywhere else is 197) Mid-Season Draftee = Plays in all thirds have heard good things currently playing as a back but has had 30 disposals in the ruck, has a rugby background



Josh Worrell (ADE) Age: 23 Height: 195 = If Petty goes to Adelaide maybe we can pry him out for a 2nd/3rd



James Van Es (STK) Age: 19 Height: 196 = Has battled through a lot of injuries but he takes the best key forward type of defender



Isaac Keeler (STK) Age: 19 Height: 198 = I believe we interviewed him a bunch, injured most of his first season has been playing as a key defender



Josh Battle

26

Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

(STK) Age: 25 Height: 193 = Free Agent would slot right in


Not key position but Elijah Hollands was only offered a one year contract (there is a possibility he out performs all of Fin, Allen, Carmichael, Sullivan, Bytel) If he isn’t getting regular senior footy maybe he would be interested in a game if we do need to get younger.

There are a couple of others that are not KPP I might do another list when I get time.

I reckon there’s a few here worth looking at. Gruzewski I really liked in his draft year, Worrell I think is underrated as is Battle.

I’d also mentioned Logan Morris at Brisbane in another thread.


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[gouki88]

The first 3 wont leave, and the 4th will be at hawks or geelong.

Why would LDU stay at North?

 

[Jen2310]

Why would LDU stay at North?

He might depends how he feels whether they are on the improve next year. They wouldn't want to lose him, as one of the more experienced mids.

 

[ellesbells]

Why would LDU stay at North?

He could be a masochist.

 

[sr36]

Yeah he was only close to being out of the side on BF, I’m certain the club was well aware of the extra loading affecting his (and most of the teams) game in the latter part of the year.

The only thing revisionist here is the denial that he was one of our most important players during finals, especially in the Grand Final.

Whether or not his current form is a result of Collingwood’s ridiculous early fixture is yet to be seen, but that’s really irrelevant in regards to last year.

Having said that, I wish we could have retained Ollie, because we could still have easily gotten Mitchell without trading him imo.

Only thing I'd disagree with is his current form. Started with a couple of shockers, but his last 2 have been really solid.

 

[Kappa]

You said he hasn’t improved “at all.”

Assuming you meant from the day he walked in the club.

From his 1st season to now I've seen consistently poor 2nd efforts and ball watching. I thought it was just a fitness issue season 1 that would improve but it hasn't. Some of his efforts this year were very disappointing.

 

[Apex36]

Only thing I'd disagree with is his current form. Started with a couple of shockers, but his last 2 have been really solid.

The post was written before the last game, so he’d had 2 out of 3 stinkers and a managed game at that point.

 

[sr36]

Im not sure bringing in a dead disability rights activist is the smartest move, although it would be a hell of a PR stunt.

A few years too late. She might have got the best out of McLarty.

 

[KillerMagpies]

We have plenty of fresh blood.
I think you mean that they’re unproven at present.

If they were good, they’d be pressing.

 

[LuckyLee]

We have plenty of fresh blood.
I think you mean that they’re unproven at present.

They’re B-graders. If they were A-graders they’d have pushed their way in at the expense of our aging stars and fringe players like WHE and Lipinski. But they haven’t.

You need to take off your rose-coloured glasses and have a good look around the league - virtually every other side has several 19-22 yo players locked into their starting line-ups and playing very prominent roles. We don’t because ours just aren’t good enough, thanks to years of draft/trading/salary mismanagement.

I think you should brace yourself for the possibility of a few years of pain when Pendles, Sidey, Mitchell, Howe, Checkers and Jamie have all hung up the boots.


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[Deathray]

Still can’t believe I heard a pundit earlier in the week say we will be targeting a player like ‘Harrison Petty

35

Harrison Petty

Age

24

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

120.7

2star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

MG

127.6

3star

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