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List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA
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Is he contracted?
Geez he’s 21 years old and 6 foot 4 and athletic. We can’t afford those traits and age profile to walk out.
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And he may not be walking out.
- May 30, 2015
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Exactly, we should be backing him in and investing more time, give him a 2 year extension.
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Not trade value, but there's salary cap relief
AFL clubs will get salary cap relief for payments to any players forced to retire from concussion for up to three years under new guidelines revealed on Monday but anyone contracted for four years or more does not have their full salary protected. 17 June 2024
- May 12, 2016
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I think he will request a trade to get more opportunities
Of course. I hope he stays and becomes a star.
I hope he gets to Brody Mihocek level
Stay away from Barrass, I've had two spinal fusions in my neck and going for a microdiscectomy on my lower lumbar spine, osteoarthritis in my lumbar spine, wedging through the middle and is generally just ****ed.
It's not as simple as healing verterbraes, muscles, ligaments, fascia all take a hit. He may be like me and on a plethora of meds to relax muscles, cover pain and cover nerve pain. Tom's full thoracic spine is damaged, he'll probably have to retire earlier than anticipated. All this stuff generally requires heavy duty intervention eventually, conservative approaches are good for short term but not in a high impact sport like this one. I really wish him the best, but he shouldn't be picked up by us.
It's not as simple as healing verterbraes, muscles, ligaments, fascia all take a hit. He may be like me and on a plethora of meds to relax muscles, cover pain and cover nerve pain. Tom's full thoracic spine is damaged, he'll probably have to retire earlier than anticipated. All this stuff generally requires heavy duty intervention eventually, conservative approaches are good for short term but not in a high impact sport like this one. I really wish him the best, but he shouldn't be picked up by us.
Sadly I think Reef (and probably Fin too) will be looking for other opportunities to play regular football elsewhere. It would be shame to see them go, especially Reef as I think he has some great attributes and just hasn't harnessed it all together for a sustained period yet.
I would imagine the only way we have of keeping him on is if there's been some clear communication about his near future with Mihocek, Cox and Elliott all 30+, but that isn't an easy conversation to have. Additionally having had the chance to meet and chat with Reef a few times, he's a switched on young man, he'll be aware that AFL careers and opportunities are not unlimited and he needs to make the most of his career where/while he can.
I would imagine the only way we have of keeping him on is if there's been some clear communication about his near future with Mihocek, Cox and Elliott all 30+, but that isn't an easy conversation to have. Additionally having had the chance to meet and chat with Reef a few times, he's a switched on young man, he'll be aware that AFL careers and opportunities are not unlimited and he needs to make the most of his career where/while he can.
- Mar 16, 2022
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Who’s going to offer them those opportunities though?
I think Melbourne and Richmond would have serious looks at Reef - Melbourne went after him last year apparently, and he would fit nicely in the Tigers forward line imo. He'd of probably played just about every game for the tigers this year, and would've certainly had multiple runs at senior level for the demons this year.
Finlay is probably harder to pinpoint where he'd get games - given most teams have a depth of midfielders at present. He would seem to fit Ross Lyon's style with that defensive, contest mindset (as boring as it is) so he could be a good contest partner with Jack Steele for them?
Agree. If they have concerns with him at FF then throw him behind the ball at HB. Reckon with his pace & speed he would be great. Just try something different.
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Those options make sense for Reef.
I don’t see Finn as someone who’s good at the contest at AFL level though.
Vicky Park
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We’ve had other players with age, size and athleticism on their side - and they don’t make it. Reef just hasn’t shown enough. The fact that he keeps getting selected only to be dropped again - even in this injury-riddled season - indicates that the coaches are also desperate for him to succeed. But he doesn’t. So out he goes again.
Those saying that he should get a block of games, or a long consistent run at it, as per young Maynard and IQ - both those players showed early on that they could play and would get better with consistent exposure. Reef has not shown that.
If the coaches had faith in what Reef could become, he’d be playing every week.
- Sep 2, 2011
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Bulldogs have English as trade piece. They look the front runners for Barras
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No way.
Hill is young and top 5 quickest players in the league which Pies are in dire need of.
First rounders are a gamble most of the times. But you don't trade a sure thing for a chance.... maybe if Hill was 27 or older
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Reef is an asset.
He's likely being used incorrectly. Should be up the ground more.
We're very good at hanging on to these types of players until their trade value hits zero and then deciding to let them go.
Somehow we need to get better and faster at assessing and developing young players or trading them whilst they still have value.
We invested Pick 18 or thereabouts in Fin, which will now turn into a packet of Twisties when he leaves. Much like Stephenson, Freeman and numerous others over the past decade.
When was the last time we drafted a player in the third or fourth round and then on-traded him a couple of years later for a first-rounder?
Vicky Park
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I don’t recall. Do you think that would help?
