List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[devize]

I forgot to add Peatling to my want list, Davies is more preferred though.

Por que no los dos?

 

[devize]

Not saying its not a serious issue, not saying the afl is immune to workplace laws - just telling people there isn't an avenue for Petracca to sue for negligence.

Next

You are wrong.

Next.

 

[LuckyLee]

Houston also have an interest in getting to St Kilda now.

Doesn’t he want to play Finals, or in front of big crowds?


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[SchuPie]

Depending on what happens w Trac, we could potentially package our F1 for Peatling and another young gun

I think you’ll find we’re up to our necks w Trac
(Even still, we might “do a Mackie” and trade our F1 so Melb have to take something else)

 

[sideswipe]

You are wrong.

Next.

Do you understand the concept of causation?

 

[spartan-magpie]

The Dees are only proving what a shitty, unprofessional, nasty organisation they are.

They leaked stuff about Oliver last year. And now they're leaking stuff about Petracca.

No wonder he wants to leave.

The best thing they could do is get rid of Goodwin, Pert & Roffey.

The Gary Pert effect. The same was happening at Pie land while he was there too - seems everywhere here goes ends up in tumult.

 

[MooreDaicos]

Por que no los dos?

Yes, we'll have both please

 

[LuckyLee]

Is Peatling a free agent of any sort?

No but he is out of contract, having resisted signing an extension for some time.


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[GCPie]

Do you understand the concept of causation?

Do you understand workplace laws ?

 

[sideswipe]

When one has internal injuries

The last thing you want is to increase the heart rate and hypertension which is a given with physical exertion let alone playing afl football
The key thing here is the scan its interpretation and then if the signs and symptoms warranted an immediate cessation of playing again on queens birthday
The scan might not have showed the significance of the injury or the scan was misinterpreted or the injuries were missed on viewing the radiology
And then should have been a reasonable expectation of the possibility that internal injuries were present

It happens

The key thing for a claim to get up would be to show the decision to allow a return to play was negigent and damage was suffered as a result. Good luck

 

[sideswipe]

Do you understand workplace laws ?

Not really my forte - what are you getting at?

 

[devize]

Do you understand the concept of causation?

Yes. Good luck finding a medical professional who will tell you that running around on the MCG with a ruptured spleen, punctured lung and internal bleeding ISN'T causing more damage.

 

[JuniorB]

Our midfield was one of the worst and the most frustrating part of the ground to watch this season.

Don’t know if Petracca is the answer, but I’m sure there’s many moneyball players out there that can fill the void.

Names that spring to mind are Setterfield, Hobbs, Davies, Brodie, Berry or even Parker.


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Setterfield is an interesting one - he's only played 4 games this year and rated elite for tackles and above average in everything else.
It's an admittedly small sample size, but it could be worth asking the question.
Essendon play a dwarf midfield, but Setterfield is 192cm and can't get a game.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

They quite clearly failed their duty of care by allowing him to go back on the field and not receiving immediate medical attention required. He was quite literally minutes away from death.

I'm not sure why you're so persistent in arguing that this is not a serious issue, just because the worst did not happen.

In any other workplace, when your employer puts you in serious risk of harm like this you 100% have a right to explore legal ramifications. The AFL is not immune to common workplace laws.

Petracca himself said he was right to go back on, duty of care works both ways.
your right he does a 100 percent right to explore, that doesn’t mean he will win or prove anything.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Yeah but he also thinks that Carlton will trade McKay for Petracca. Bloke is throwing darts.

Also said that the Weagles will not be drafting Reid.....

 

[sideswipe]

Yes. Good luck finding a medical professional who will tell you that running around on the MCG with a ruptured spleen, punctured lung and internal bleeding ISN'T causing more damage.

Actually, the claimant needs to find one, probably two, docs who say that running around the MCG DID cause further damage. And specify what that damage was.

The defence wouldn't actually need a doc. They could probably just sink it on cross. When the doc gets asked "can you specify what the damage was before and after", he will say, ah, I can't say.

And then everyone goes home.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Sam McClure on the Tradies podcast this morning said he thinks Adam Tomlinson will be at Collingwood next year.

Mitch Cleary responded saying he has heard Pies and Saints are the two that are interested.

No thanks!!

 

[GCPie]

Not really my forte - what are you getting at?

MFC are his employers and after his injury he was put back in an unsafe place - due to the injury - and the possibilities of what could have happened.
MFC cannot argue no knowledge as they have Doctors on the sidelines.
The Petracca family can make this a very big thing in the public light with their boy - already injured - being allowed to go back on and the potential things that could have happened.
They could also argue that his injuries were far more consequential than a concussion and players have been subbed out due to this - see Moore last game - he was subbed out to protect the player from further possible injury.
Now use the Moore case in the Petracca scenario and MFC's handing could be seen as negligent by placing an employee in a very unsafe place where the ramifications could have been life threatening.
Slater & Gordon would have a field day with this.
This is why I think the AFL will want the Petracca trade to happen quickly and will 'ask' MFC to get it done very quickly.
I am sure that CFC is a very safe employer.

 

[cfc19902010]

No thanks!!

No

God please no

Nooooooo

 

[cfc19902010]

MFC are his employers and after his injury he was put back in an unsafe place - due to the injury - and the possibilities of what could have happened.
MFC cannot argue no knowledge as they have Doctors on the sidelines.
The Petracca family can make this a very big thing in the public light with their boy - already injured - being allowed to go back on and the potential things that could have happened.
They could also argue that his injuries were far more consequential than a concussion and players have been subbed out due to this - see Moore last game - he was subbed out to protect the player from further possible injury.
Now use the Moore case in the Petracca scenario and MFC's handing could be seen as negligent by placing an employee in a very unsafe place where the ramifications could have been life threatening.
Slater & Gordon would have a field day with this.
This is why I think the AFL will want the Petracca trade to happen quickly and will 'ask' MFC to get it done very quickly.
I am sure that CFC is a very safe employer.

Our doctors pull everyone off
Unlike Geelong whose players can recover from concussion With a Panadol

 

[Babylove]

Setterfield is an interesting one - he's only played 4 games this year and rated elite for tackles and above average in everything else.
It's an admittedly small sample size, but it could be worth asking the question.
Essendon play a dwarf midfield, but Setterfield is 192cm and can't get a game.

The guys on the Midweek Tackle last night seemed to think Hobbs was the one mire likely to leave Essendon.

 

[sideswipe]

MFC are his employers and after his injury he was put back in an unsafe place - due to the injury - and the possibilities of what could have happened.
MFC cannot argue no knowledge as they have Doctors on the sidelines.
The Petracca family can make this a very big thing in the public light with their boy - already injured - being allowed to go back on and the potential things that could have happened.
They could also argue that his injuries were far more consequential than a concussion and players have been subbed out due to this - see Moore last game - he was subbed out to protect the player from further possible injury.
Now use the Moore case in the Petracca scenario and MFC's handing could be seen as negligent by placing an employee in a very unsafe place where the ramifications could have been life threatening.
Slater & Gordon would have a field day with this.
This is why I think the AFL will want the Petracca trade to happen quickly and will 'ask' MFC to get it done very quickly.
I am sure that CFC is a very safe employer.

Why the hell do people keep referring to the "family"? Let's leave them out of it.

The rest of your theory is just wrong. The extension of your suggested scenario is that no player should ever be allowed back on the field if there is a potential for internal injury.

Risk is just part and parcel of professional footy.

Will leave it there.

 

[partypie]

Would Tim Membrey

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Tim Membrey

Age

30

Ht

188cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.1

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

be worth a look if he parts ways with the Stains?

Not quite what we need size-wise as a KPF, but he has always struck me as a smart third tall forward who can get out on the lead, is good in the air and converts his shots on goal at a good clip, similar to what Howe has done for us on the occasions when he has been shifted forward.

 

[JLC]

Would Tim Membrey be worth a look if he parts ways with the Stains?

Not quite what we need size-wise as a KPF, but he has always struck me as a smart third tall forward who can get out on the lead, is good in the air and converts his shots on goal at a good clip, similar to what Howe has done for us on the occasions when he has been shifted forward.

No thanks - he has major yips a while back.

 

[cfc19902010]

Would Tim Membrey be worth a look if he parts ways with the Stains?

Not quite what we need size-wise as a KPF, but he has always struck me as a smart third tall forward who can get out on the lead, is good in the air and converts his shots on goal at a good clip, similar to what Howe has done for us on the occasions when he has been shifted forward.

To old