Exactly, look at the lack of space in our forward 50 all game, then look at the paddock richmond got to run into in their forward 50.
No wonder they hit players lace out on the lead in space
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Exactly, look at the lack of space in our forward 50 all game, then look at the paddock richmond got to run into in their forward 50.
No wonder they hit players lace out on the lead in space
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CLOKE could kick 100 goals in another team that has a gameplan to his strength.
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I never said he didn't go up the ground. I just like him up the ground, but we really haven't got any one else yet. hoping moore will
fill that role some time soon at ff. just that cloke is a great contested mark when on the move and a running beast I prefer him at chf
Port are apparently after Dixon.
If they miss on him would they give up pick 8 for Cloke believing they're in a premiership window?
Can't believe I'm even asking that but he's heading for consecutive sub 40 goal seasons and for a bloke on his massive wage not good enough.
17 of his 34 goals have come in 3 games against Melbourne, St kilda and GWS.
In reality Cloke wont be traded and probably shouldn't be but the end for him might come quicker than expected so assuming the Treloar trade goes through I'm back hoping we can attain another top 15 pick to use on a 190cm+ forward talent to partner with Moore.
If Scharenberg re-signs then Witts might be the player to achieve that.
If they miss on him would they give up pick 8 for Cloke believing they're in a premiership window?
Can't believe I'm even asking that but he's heading for consecutive sub 40 goal seasons and for a bloke on his massive wage not good enough.
17 of his 34 goals have come in 3 games against Melbourne, St kilda and GWS.
In reality Cloke wont be traded and probably shouldn't be but the end for him might come quicker than expected so assuming the Treloar trade goes through I'm back hoping we can attain another top 15 pick to use on a 190cm+ forward talent to partner with Moore.
If Scharenberg re-signs then Witts might be the player to achieve that.
You wouldn't need to give up all that if the crows forced a trade.
This years first pick and Scharenberg would be enough given the pick would be below the compensation selection they'd receive and Scharenberg was a No.6 pick just two years ago.
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Watching specifically for good portions of the game, Cloke just cant move - he looks slow, lethargic and just downright spiritless.
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That would require him to have 250 shots on goal.
Statistically impossible for Cloke to kick 100.
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I wish Treloar would do an Aish or Henderson and play poorly to reduce his trade value LOL!!. Another lazy day at the office with 29 disposals, 5 marks; 5 tackles, 4 clearances, 4 I50's, 2 R50's and 3 score assists.
Too bad he wasn't 5 inches taller!
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After today I'm back on the bandwagon of getting another first round selection so we can go shopping for another forward talent.
With us having Moore I don't think we necessarily need the player to be key position size.
Weideman, Curnow, Burton, McKay sound alright if we want to go taller (haven't bothered considering academy players). Ah Chee, Milera for the quicker smaller option.
If we somehow ended up keeping pick 7 then Francis though unlikely to last would probably be the one Hine went for given his championships.
After today I'm back on the bandwagon of getting another first round selection so we can go shopping for another forward talent.
With us having Moore I don't think we necessarily need the player to be key position size.
Weideman, Curnow, Burton, McKay sound alright if we want to go taller (haven't bothered considering academy players). Ah Chee, Milera for the quicker smaller option.
If we somehow ended up keeping pick 7 then Francis though unlikely to last would probably be the one Hine went for given his championships.
Unless it's possible to bring in 22 new players we arent making a GF.
Behinds. Behinds!
Aish is over rated. He's small and get knocked off the ball. Why do we want that? It's one player anyway. What about the other 21?
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Frizzle & Shizzle..I'm sorry, but I just can't take your posts seriously.
The negativity is beginning to drizzle on my parade.
Unless we bring in up 10 new players are going on where in 2016.
Well fortunately I won't have to read any of your drivel again.
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Not a shot at you Apex, probably more at Gillon McLachlan who gave Henderson a pretty decent spray. Why is Henderson any less professional than say, the Brisbane Lions. Who 3 weeks out told their ex-skipper that he won't be there next year? Paul Roos also gave him a spray, when only last Year Roos was lamenting the fact that they couldn't plan their end of season movements because James Frawley was holding them up by not telling them of his intentions? Its all a bit of bulldust imo. The clubs do it all the time and now they've spat it because Henderson has done what a lot of them have been asking for. Its double standards imo.
If Scharenberg came out today and told us that he wanted to go home, would it really matter. Just gives us a few extra weeks to get it sorted and the club can stop wasting its time and effort trying to get him to sign a new contract. (example only)
Kennedy and 2016 second rounder for Yarran?
And for him to lead a lot more then he has the kast few seasons. He is all about the wrestle now making him easier to defend 1 player locks him up 2nd over the top with runners waiting down to clear. Been happening for a few years now.
Cloke is overrated and has peaked.
Can't believe the negativity in this thread. There is a lot to like about the young pies and its easy to forget that young teams have a tendancy to drop off over a long season.
Next year we will play finals and Cloke will be a key part of that. I hope to God we land Treloar. Aish I'm less convinced about.
Next year we will play finals and Cloke will be a key part of that. I hope to God we land Treloar. Aish I'm less convinced about.
Seems to me the consensus re: Aish is what we need to give up to get him. If we need to give up 2016 round 1 for him, I'm hoping Brisbane also package a second rounder with Aish. See him as another Sidebottom- but would rather use the pick on Someone with speed and outside polish.
Unless we change our game style we will finish bottom 4 next year.
I dont care who we recruit, we are miles away if we continue on this path.
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