List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2016 Part 4 - The Final Day: Sailing into the abyss ...

[Mukesh]

Don't forget to add Toovey, Macaffer, Gault and Goodyear to your OUTs. When you factor them in, our 2017 list is definitely much better than 2016. Did Blair ever get around to re-signing?

Has Gault definitely gone ??

 

[Kirby]

I think there are some massive over-reactions going on in this board.

I suspect too many posters got their hopes up for getting ridiculous offers for lowly skilled players that we wanted to dump.

The only player I'm upset about losing is Marsh (if we do).

I'm rapt with getting WHE. Rate him highly and we paid a fair price.

If we can use 28 on a kid then the points to our father/sons later then things work out.

 

[good4footy]

Rofl. 2 first rounders for a 27 year old with 1 B&F to his name???

Irresponsible list management is very diplomatic from the crows. Will be fun to watch Gibbs run around half heartedly for a team he doesn't want to play for then get traded for peanuts.

Sounds as though there is going to be follow up from Crows on this via the AFL.

 

[Kirby]

Marley Williams for 105 / Cloke for 79???
in hine we trust, more like in hine we bust.

No-one wanted to pay anything for Marley.

Don't people understand this????????????????????

 

[Breakthelines]

Langdon - Dunn - Maynard
Howe - Reid - Sinclair
Sidey - Wells - Adams
Mayne - White - WHE
Fasolo - Moore - Elliott

Grundy - Pendles - Treloar

Aish - Varcoe - Ramsey - De Goey

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I think there are some massive over-reactions going on in this board.

I suspect too many posters got their hopes up for getting ridiculous offers for lowly skilled players that we wanted to dump.

The only player I'm upset about losing is Marsh (if we do).

I'm rapt with getting WHE. Rate him highly and we paid a fair price.

If we can use 28 on a kid then the points to our father/sons later then things work out.

Yep the only one we got unders for was Marley and that was clearly a fire sale for non football reasons.

Out of respect for him we did a trade rather than delist him.

 

[Maggie5]

Heard that Jetstar so impressed with our trading will come on board and build a departure lounge at the Holden Centre.

 

[Baird]

So what Contracts did Dunn and WHE Signed?

Both are already contracted for the 2017 season so they don't have to sign new contracts right now.

 

[Sidebottom2Beams]

I wonder if the same negative posters are in here that we're in last years trade thread.
Howe spud this, Aish shit that. Seedman and Kennedy were worth more, etc.
We got rid of Witts, Frost & Brown. That should be champagne popping in itself!

Spin Mayne at 4x5 to me in a positive way.

I am the Joel Embiid of Collingwood supporters but I have nothing.

 

[jdpie]

Sends a clear message to the playing group.

Had to go and have a walk to clear the head. In the serenity of walking along the Yarra banks resolved (in myself) that the biggest statement from this apparent chaos is the message that gets sent to the players (both fundamentally in their footballing skills and their attitude to being a professional player at Collingwood). If you do not improve you go. Now it will be interesting to see if this same fundamental philosophy gets applied to the other sections of the club ?

 

[Gone Critical]

Anthony Rocca? I'd have him and Cloke on a similar level. AR 220 games 404 goals, TC 246 games 441 goals.

Anthony never reached the heights Trav did at his best but not a huge difference.

 

[sr36]

Langdon - Dunn - Maynard
Howe - Reid - Sinclair
Sidey - Wells - Adams
Mayne - White - WHE
Fasolo - Moore - Elliott

Grundy - Pendles - Treloar

Aish - Varcoe - Ramsey - De Goey

I'm looking forward to much better ball use next year. The only dodgy users on that list are Langdon, Maynard and Adams and with all of them it appears to be decision making more than skill. They all could ed up pretty good with the footy.

 

[TradeDraft]

SOME THOUGHTS FROM THE PIES

Here's a selection of what Collingwood list manager Derek Hine said post the trade period.

On Lynden Dunn:

“We were mindful with Nathan (Brown) going out and Jack (Frost) going out and he’s proven that he can play tall and small, so we’re really pleased to bring Lynden in.

On Marley Williams:

“From our perspective, it was just doing the right thing by Marley. Otherwise, we were in a situation where we probably weren’t going to go on with him.

“We’ve had a lot of small defenders out with injury, guys like (Jackson) Ramsay and (Matthew) Scharenberg and I think that Marley realised he was a little down the back end of that group.

On Hoskin-Elliott:

“I think he’s going to be a lot more balanced back home, amongst family and friends. One thing that really stood out to us with Will was his performances on the MCG have just been really consistent and at a high level.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Spin Mayne at 4x5 to me in a positive way.

I am the Joel Embiid of Collingwood supporters but I have nothing.

The positive way to look at it is ignore the contract, don't worry about 2020, and just see what he can bring to the table in 2017

 

[northpie]

No-one wanted to pay anything for Marley.

Don't people understand this????????????????????

then don't get rid of him for peanuts. the guy has played well at afl , is young and quick. how many 105 picks have played 1 game of AFL?.
Answer is zero.

 

[unplugged]

It doesn't make sense to me why the draft isn't next week.

 

[Hong Kong Pie]

Marley Williams for 105 / Cloke for 79???
in hine we trust, more like in hine we bust.

They had very average years, and didn't want to be at the club. Hardly the best bargaining position for us to be in!
You make what you can out of a bad situation, simple as that.

 

[jdpie]

Because the players we brought it in will struggle to get the ball.

Wells will go ok next year Beast (we will be wowed by his silkiness) but we may get a little concerned about output 18 & 19.

 

[Jekyll and Hyde]

Spin Mayne at 4x5 to me in a positive way.

I am the Joel Embiid of Collingwood supporters but I have nothing.

Forget he cash. Champion bloke who has good long term averages. Will organise the forward line and lift others around him.

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Very curious what happens with Marsh now.

Did i miss something or is he still a pie?

 

[Soups]

I'm looking forward to much better ball use next year. The only dodgy users on that list are Langdon, Maynard and Adams and with all of them it appears to be decision making more than skill. They all could ed up pretty good with the footy.

Maynard will be one of our best kicks out of the backline in the next couple of years.

 

[Primetime Pricey]

then don't get rid of him for peanuts. the guy has played well at afl , is young and quick. how many 105 picks have played 1 game of AFL?.
Answer is zero.

Pick 105 is a steal, Marley is horrible. I said before the trade period i would trade him for a empty packet of crisps and i got what i wanted.
By the way Chris Grant was selected at 105

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

then don't get rid of him for peanuts. the guy has played well at afl , is young and quick. how many 105 picks have played 1 game of AFL?.
Answer is zero.

Hine effectively said he would have been delisted anyway. The trade was for marleys benefit

 

[Soups]

Very curious what happens with Marsh now.

Did i miss something or is he still a pie?

Hoping they keep him on and work closely with him. Let him have all the time wants and try get him to stay.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

It doesn't make sense to me why the draft isn't next week.

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