Collingwoods Four Consecutive Premierships

[rhino]

Gotta be a fair nomination for greatest moment in australian football history dont it

1970 Grand Final

 

[Jimthegreat]

Given the the professionalism of this day and age, Brisbane's achievement of winning 3 in a row was a much greater achievement. Same as Hawthorn making 7 grannies in a row (and 8 of 9) during the 80's. Way better! In the 20's, the "amateur" days, didn't players go to work Saturday morning before the game because they was stuff all money in the game then, train just twice a week and have a drink and smoke before and after the game!! Still the Colliwobbles have to have something to hang their hats on....they've only won all of one premiership in near 50 years so they've got nothing else to cheer about (haven't the piles of runner-ups been funny though....damn Essendon in 1990).

 

[understudy]

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Since when...........they didnt win it in the AFL, it was the VFL!!!

Its on the afl website champ !!!!

 

[understudy]

Given the the professionalism of this day and age, Brisbane's achievement of winning 3 in a row was a much greater achievement. Same as Hawthorn making 7 grannies in a row (and 8 of 9) during the 80's. Way better! In the 20's, the "amateur" days, didn't players go to work Saturday morning before the game because they was stuff all money in the game then, train just twice a week and have a drink and smoke before and after the game!! Still the Colliwobbles have to have something to hang their hats on....they've only won all of one premiership in near 50 years so they've got nothing else to cheer about (haven't the piles of runner-ups been funny though....damn Essendon in 1990).

Why do those things make a difference???

Doesnt it make the four in a row a greater achievement???

Certainly a fantastic moment and record - will never be broken in the current environment (even bris lions with all the concessions and benefits they received couldnt achieve it - justice i guess) !!!!

 

[Jimthegreat]

Why do those things make a difference???

Doesnt it make the four in a row a greater achievement???

Certainly a fantastic moment and record - will never be broken in the current environment (even bris lions with all the concessions and benefits they received couldnt achieve it - justice i guess) !!!!

Makes it great achievement, NOT a greater achievement. Need to think about it more deeply than that. Consecutive premierships are way harder to win in this day and age with the draft, salary cap, training, intensity of the game etc...In the old days when footy was in its infancy you could get away with talent alone. It was simply mark and kick with much lower scores and much simpler skills. The game these days is very professional with the based on hard running, intensity, a multitude of different game plans and much more individual player scrutiny from the opposition. ANY slight drop off in run, intensity and passion will see a side really slip irrespective of their talent. Hate to disappoint you but Brisbane with 3 consecutive premierships/4 consecutive Grand Finals, and Hawthorn of the 80's with 7 consecutive Grand Finals (and 8 from 9) were much greater achievements.

 

[understudy]

Disagree mate, four in a row is the record consecutive flags and the greatest achievement of all time - no concessions either

 

[rick James]

you had to rematch for two of them, so really you won 4 out of 6 grand finals.

melbourne in the 50's was a far greater team that didn't get a ridiculous second chance to win thier premierships.

 

[Footy_Mad]

You know it is sad days in the Collingwood camp when they are going back to the early 1900's for the good times .

Can't see the club getting close to a flag in the next 5-7 years either,

Too bad as I really like the Pies

 

[understudy]

you play by the rules of the day - look at the 3 ridiculous flags handed to brisbane*

pies four consecutive flags - afl record

 

[rick James]

pies four consecutive flags - afl record

you forgot the asterisk.

 

[Footy_Mad]

Oh and if you are going to bring in old records from the VFL then it is only fair to equally compare Port Adelaides record in the Sanfl which was a VERY strong competiton also .. I dislike immensely Port by the way but their 6 in a row is a far bigger achievement.

1954 October 2 11-13 (79) West 10-16 (76) Adelaide Oval Grand final
1955 October 1 15-11 (101) Norwood 5-8 (38) Adelaide Oval Grand final
1956 September 29 12-9 (81) West 9-11 (65) Adelaide Oval Grand final
1957 September 28 15-15 (105) Norwood 13-16 (94) Adelaide Oval Grand final
1958 September 27 14-10 (94) West 14-8 (92) Adelaide Oval Grand final
1959 October 3 13-9 (87) West 11-11 (77) Adelaide Oval Grand final


http://portadelaidefc.com.au/default.asp?pg=history&spg=clubrecordsdisplay&articleid=14832

 

[Powerstufff]

......pies four consecutive flags - afl record

VFL record

 

[understudy]

Before you port supporters get carried away, we are talking afl moments here not sanfl, best you stay out of this thread

 

[Powerstufff]

Before you port supporters get carried away, we are talking afl moments here not sanfl, best you stay out of this thread

From a supporter of a club that has earnt one AFL wooden spoon and is worryingly starting towards a record second AFL spoon...

 

[Count Zero]

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... The SANFL is, and always has been a sh*tpot little competition that doesn't compare to the VFL/AFL....

There used to be a nationally sanctioned competition before the AFL. It was called the Championship of Australia. There was also interstate games between representative sides of state leagues, and there used to be State of Origin games. Now according to your logic the South Australian side would never win any of those type of games....... hang on a minute.

 

[Cassius_Clay]

VFL(1900-1990)>>>>>>>SANFL

Thread Over

 

[W W Biscuit]

A rose by any other name...

The current AFL was a simple renaming of the former VFL. It is hairsplitting semantics of the highest order to be arguing that Collingwood's four in a row was a VFL and not an AFL record. My question to the hairsplitters would be - "Your point being...?"

The AFL itself does not separate achievements into AFL and VFL eras. For instance, it would come as news to Saints fans if it were announced that Robert Harvey had not actually played his 300th game. Demetriou's press conference:

"It has come to the AFL's attention that the St Kilda Football Club celebrated what was purported to be Robert Harvey's 300th senior AFL appearance in last year's preliminary final. After further investigation, the AFL has decided that this is not a legitimate record, considering that Harvey made his debut in 1988 - as part of the old VFL competition. We have therefore reduced Harvey's current games tally to 253. Barring injury and osteoarthristis, the AFL looks forward to Robert reaching his 300 AFL games some time in 2008 - at the age of 37."

 

[sedders]

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The AFL have asked for nominations for the greatest moment in Australian Football history.

Collingwoods Four Consecutive AFL Premierships - a league record - has to be a fair chance - im putting it forward as a nomination.

Anyone beat that????

The first time all 6 interstate teams were in the 8 was the greatest moment in AUSTRALIAN Football history.

 

[understudy]

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The first time all 6 interstate teams were in the 8 was the greatest moment in AUSTRALIAN Football history.

This will need to be good to get this up ....

 

[Jimthegreat]

you play by the rules of the day - look at the 3 ridiculous flags handed to brisbane*

pies four consecutive flags - afl record

Take 2 players out of the Lions side (about $600,000) and they'd stil beat Collingwood in those GF, especially the second one. If think something in the amateur days of 1929 ranks better than the achievements of the current day dynasties you really are biased, rationalising and dreaming. Sorry, but get into the real world. As I said great achievement but certainly not the greatest. Making succesive Grannies in 2002-3 with an average side was probably a greater achievement in the modern era.

 

[understudy]

Poor jim, thinks everything in modern era is greater acheivement than anything in the past. How disresptful to our forefathers

Very myopic.

He didnt see it so it wasnt any good.

 

[Jimthegreat]

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There used to be a nationally sanctioned competition before the AFL. It was called the Championship of Australia. There was also interstate games between representative sides of state leagues, and there used to be State of Origin games. Now according to your logic the South Australian side would never win any of those type of games....... hang on a minute.

Be realistic, it was a far weaker competition. That's why players left to come to Victoria to play VFL in those days. Same as footballers coming from any league whether it be WAFL, SANFL or the even the country leagues. Then you were able to take that far greater professional development back and use it for state-of-origin games. Don't kid yourself.

 

[worthy]

I'm not jealous, i'm just saying that those premierships were a long time ago and you can't keep dwelling on how great they were all those years ago, when now they're are not doing so great.

On the contrary, this is exactly the time to be dwelling on past greatness.

 

[Infamy]

Disagree mate, four in a row is the record consecutive flags and the greatest achievement of all time - no concessions either

Get over the concessions thing
There were no restrictions on a team 20 years ago, let alone back in the 20s
So Collingwood couldn't have had concessions back then as there was nothing to give concessions over. They could simply recruit the best team and nothing could be done about it, so if you really want to be pedantic about it, Brisbane did it much tougher

 

[Jimthegreat]

Poor jim, thinks everything in modern era is greater acheivement than anything in the past. How disresptful to our forefathers

Very myopic.

He didnt see it so it wasnt any good.

Of course it is. Everything in life is greater in the modern era from medical science to sport science, sports training and preparation and thus football....too silly to work that one out. I know you're a Collingwood supporter, so we do make allowances but surely you're not that dumb....poor colliwobble!!! Suppose it's all you've got to hang you're hat on I suppose with only one flag in most of the last 50 years. I suggest you quit while you're behind.