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Re: Eddie McGuire press release

MarkT said:
I understand that TFS has Collingwood bias. So what? That’s Eddie/the Shows prerogative. You don’t have to watch it and in time it will fade away like all TV shows do. I agree he pushes his agendas. Lots of people in the public use their forums.
That's why 15 sets of supporters are delighted with yesterday's announcement. And you are dead right: Eddie has done, and frankly should have done, everything he could in his position to fully exploit the Collingwood brand to maximum benefit through his positions of power as both the Collingwood president and the head of Channel 9's football coverage. But this had angered and annoyed non-Collingwood supporters who have had to endure this gratuitous favouritism for 4 years, and which has seen the Collingwood brand benefit artificially through amazingly generous and plentiful sponsorship arrangements struck partly as a result of this favouritism. It's one of those issues that Collingwood supporters just will not understand unless they weren't Collingwood supporters.

And can some of you actually understand the phase "tall poppy syndrome" and use it in some sort of appropriate context. The occasional idiotic post aside, I haven't seen anything posted on BF wanting to see Eddie stripped of all his hard-earned wealth and status and wind up in the gutter. He is a very talented and extremely savvy businessman who has worked his ass off to get where he currently is. The vast majority of posters here don't begrudge this at all, but at the same time are delighted that he will not be a part of the football coverage landscape from 2007-2011 because of the reasons I, and many others, have already mentioned.
 
Re: Eddie McGuire press release

Sedat! said:
That's why 15 sets of supporters are delighted with yesterday's announcement. And you are dead right: Eddie has done, and frankly should have done, everything he could in his position to fully exploit the Collingwood brand to maximum benefit through his positions of power as both the Collingwood president and the head of Channel 9's football coverage. But this had angered and annoyed non-Collingwood supporters who have had to endure this gratuitous favouritism for 4 years, and which has seen the Collingwood brand benefit artificially through amazingly generous and plentiful sponsorship arrangements struck partly as a result of this favouritism. It's one of those issues that Collingwood supporters just will not understand unless they weren't Collingwood supporters.

And can some of you actually understand the phase "tall poppy syndrome" and use it in some sort of appropriate context. The occasional idiotic post aside, I haven't seen anything posted on BF wanting to see Eddie stripped of all his hard-earned wealth and status and wind up in the gutter. He is a very talented and extremely savvy businessman who has worked his ass off to get where he currently is. The vast majority of posters here don't begrudge this at all, but at the same time are delighted that he will not be a part of the football coverage landscape from 2007-2011 because of the reasons I, and many others, have already mentioned.

Well put Sedat. Very succinct.
 

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Re: Onya Eddie

chapmanmagic35 said:
He was instrumental in landing the Bulldogs a major sponsor in LeasePlan, so he does share a thought with other clubs.
2002 was a disastrous year all round for the Footscray Football Club. It did not have a major sponsor and its coach walked out after the penultimate game. Lacking the major sponsor, it entered into arrangements with a series of “partners” during the year who agreed to short term sponsorships of events and games. One of those partners was Leaseplan. Towards the end of 2002, the club’s lack of a sponsor was raised on the Footy Show and McGuire said something along the lines of “come on, you companies in the Western Suburbs, get on board…” Abe Tomas, Leaseplan’s executive director, later said that he took that as a challenge and sent the Leaseplan boys to the club to investigate its prospects.

“Many thought we were mad given the poor public image created around the club by the media on the back of a messy coach departure and the clean out of the executive,” said Mr Tomas. “But a company with size and global reputation like LeasePlan cannot afford to make ‘mad’ decisions.

“We were rigorous in our investigations and had asked very pointed questions of Campbell Rose about the direction of the club and the commitment of those running it to its long term success. We were satisfied enough in the responses to sign on the dotted line, and isn’t it funny that what may have looked like a gamble then looks like a wise investment today?”

Leaseplan secures its major sponsorship for $1mil per year. That’s bargain basement stuff and good luck to it. With increased prospects for 2006, exemplified by 4 Friday night games v I for 2005, and the likelihood of sustained success over the next few years, who knows, perhaps the Leaseplan caps on the premiership players heads after 50 years plus. A very wise investment, Abe.

Abe Thomas took the calculated risk. Campbell Rose came up with the right answers. Smorgo, his board, the club administrators and volunteers around the place put in the hard yards. Even the players took a pay cut. It cost McGuire nothing to make an appeal on his employer’s television show. Having the good will of supporters of all clubs is essential for the continued popularity of the show. McGuire regularly talks up the sponsors of all clubs. He spoke at a breakfast fundraiser in 2003, from memory, and may have done a few other fundraisers, too, he and Smorgo are friendly. It is in Nine’s and McGuire’s interests to be seen to assist all clubs.

Perhaps that is being “instrumental”. I have seen him proclaimed as having saved Footscray and having given Footscray a sponsorship ! Let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good piece of self promotion, eh ?
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

Jarka said:
I wonder if Ch.9 will have another shot at it the next time it comes up for renewel.
Of course they will, with Eddie McGuire potentially as the CEO of Channel 9 (and far too busy to be Collingwood President anymore).
 
Re: Onya Eddie

Diego said:
Eddie is great if you follow a victorian team. For us who follow interstate teams Eddie is a just a hinderance and an annoying arse__wipe. Sure he has helped vic clubs, but what has done for the national comp in general? Nothing.

The upside is now the swans in Sydney will be back to being Ch 7 darling love child like they were between 1997-2000.
Amen!

IF you live and follow AFL in victoria youd be happy with him....if you are interstate he does nothing but make you grind your teeth or vomit depending.

Thank Christ that he wont be there in 2007 (thats if 7/10 are smart enough not to go near him)

Seeya Eddie, Dont hit the door on the way out
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

Well I guess it's also fair to say that the first footy show for 2006 will be worth watching, only to see smoke coming out of Eddie's ears and tell us how football is now doomed. Is kleenex a sponsor of the footy show? He might be needing a box or 2.
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

Sedat! said:
Of course they will, with Eddie McGuire potentially as the CEO of Channel 9 (and far too busy to be Collingwood President anymore).
McGuire in line for CEO of Nine is put out by himself, Newman and Marmalade, in the same way that he is touted, on the Footy Show, as ruling the world. Channel Nine has appointed a CEO 3 times over the last few years. McGuire has had 3 opportunities. Perhaps the decision makers at Nine aren't impressed with his business management skills. Perhaps that's the reason he took on the Collingwood presidency - to get some commercial runs on the board ?
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

H Dolphin said:
McGuire in line for CEO of Nine is put out by himself, Newman and Marmalade, in the same way that he is touted, on the footy Show, as ruling the world. Channel Nine has apponted a CEO 3 times over the last few years. McGuire has had 3 opportunities. Perhaps the decision makers at Nine aren't as impressed with his business management skills as he is. Perhaps that's the reason he took on the Collingwood presidency - to get some commercial runs on the board ?
Not ready yet for such a role (and he would know this himself), but in 5 years time he would have honed his business skills even more, especially within the complex industry that is television. Also on very good terms with the new head of PBL, who have acknowledged the need to blood some new personnel into the senior management positions. If not in Sam Chisholm's current role as CEO of the whole banana, I can certainly see Eddie as the CEO of Channel 9's Melbourne operation in the near future with another 3-4 years experience under his belt.
 

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Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

Sedat! said:
Not ready yet for such a role (and he would know this himself), but in 5 years time he would have honed his business skills even more, especially within the complex industry that is television. Also on very good terms with the new head of PBL, who have acknowledged the need to blood some new personnel into the senior management positions. If not in Sam Chisholm's current role as CEO of the whole banana, I can certainly see Eddie as the CEO of Channel 9's Melbourne operation in the near future with another 3-4 years experience under his belt.
Perhaps you are right, Sedat. If you are, then the loss to TV rights could be the best thing that could happen for McGuire's career. It frees him up to hone those skills. I just wonder, though, whether he really has them, more accurately, whether the decision makers at Nine see him as having them. Do they see him as more than a TV face ?
 
Re: Eddie McGuire press release

Sedat! said:
That's why 15 sets of supporters are delighted with yesterday's announcement. And you are dead right: Eddie has done, and frankly should have done, everything he could in his position to fully exploit the Collingwood brand to maximum benefit through his positions of power as both the Collingwood president and the head of Channel 9's football coverage. But this had angered and annoyed non-Collingwood supporters who have had to endure this gratuitous favouritism for 4 years, and which has seen the Collingwood brand benefit artificially through amazingly generous and plentiful sponsorship arrangements struck partly as a result of this favouritism. It's one of those issues that Collingwood supporters just will not understand unless they weren't Collingwood supporters.
What makes you think Collingwood supporters don’t understand? In my experience they definitely understand and in fact it is partly why Eddie was re elected unopposed a year ago. Collingwood supporters understand and appreciate. The fact it annoys other supporters is hardly a secret. Good grief, do a google search on Eddie, take a look at any given day on Bigfooty….

Don’t take defence of the club or objection to personal dislike that is turned into false accusation as ignorance. It is actually quite often just perspective. It is fine if people don’t like Eddie because they dislike his calling, his bias, his Collingwood promotion or just his public persona. That is quite another thing from some of the accusations that get thrown around and some of the crap that gets slung.
Sedat! said:
And can some of you actually understand the phase "tall poppy syndrome" and use it in some sort of appropriate context. The occasional idiotic post aside, I haven't seen anything posted on BF wanting to see Eddie stripped of all his hard-earned wealth and status and wind up in the gutter. He is a very talented and extremely savvy businessman who has worked his ass off to get where he currently is. The vast majority of posters here don't begrudge this at all, but at the same time are delighted that he will not be a part of the football coverage landscape from 2007-2011 because of the reasons I, and many others, have already mentioned.
I would dispute that. Plenty on here would love nothing more than to see Eddie fall in every way. There are plenty of people motivated by wanting to cut Eddie down. Tall Poppy may be over used but it most definitely has plenty of application on this site. It is the down side of the general Australian lack of respect for authority derived from out historical development which is an otherwise good thing (IMO of course).
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

The Fireman said:
so according to your class destinction theories what would be served up for dinner for all the poor plebs in their Western suburb Hovels???
you are a nasty piece of work Fumanchu and not that bright, a bad mix.
bangers and mash for all you english underclass types
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

mediumsizered said:
Does this mean that we will no longer have to put up with the cameras panning towards the Collingwood Cheer Squad to focus on Joffa? What a pleasant change that will be.
Ha, you never saw that on 10?
 
Re: Eddie McGuire press release

robbieando said:
But putting the off-field matters aside Colless has delivered to his club's fans something that Eddie hasn't been able to do despite all the sponsor exposure, sweetheart deals and so called coaching experts being brought in and that is a Premiership.
Eddie hasn’t had 10 years. After 6 years what had Collis delivered? A suck up sweetheart deal with Eddie to guarantee the Sydney home game to turn another loss into a profit? Give all the credit in the world to Paul Roos for a flag – he most definitely deserves it. Absolute legend and superstar of the game in every respect. I’d kill for him at Collingwood. Collis you can most definitely keep.

Does Collis get paid BTW? I wouldn't have a clue to be honest. Most presidents are honorary roles. What's the deal with Collis?
 
Re: Onya Eddie

FuManchu said:
and there lay the beauty of the man, very pro Victorian football, and committed to all Victorians being able to support their teams that they had followed since day dot. he gets little recognition for the appearances he made on behalf of other clubs. All people want to see is him knocked off his perch.

i wonder if Bruth and his band of footballing infidels will have the same commitment to football clubs surviving in melbourne as eddie did?

You may not like his commentating or even his footballing politics, but you cannot doubt the job he has done in furthering the cause of some of the most disadvantaged clubs in Vic. Now those clubs wont get the same exposure, gratis, courtesy of Eddie, will they be as critical of him if and when there is a downturn in their off field situation?

I hope he looks at each and every critic of his and refuses to promote, give support, search for sponsors for each and every one of those clubs. survival of the fittest if you will. I know collingwoods safe , how many other clubs have the ability to get the same exposure and attract sponsors as collingwood do and without some aid from eddie????????

yes very pro victorian, and exactly why he's bad for the AFL. When will you silly victorians get it?? He does nothing for the good of the afl, nothing for the other states, the non-vic teams, nothing but insult them

bulldogs should have been relegated years ago btw. how long are we going to beat the dead horse?
 
Re: Eddie McGuire press release

Terry Tan said:
everybody has got allegiances, but allegences are different to conflicts of interest.

McGuire should not be commentating Collingwood games.
How does being a director of Spotless go for a COI just for starters. Honestly you are way out of your depth with the COI issues. The AFL is where the COI’s are. Commentating is completely irrelevant but that’s seriously been done to death. Suffice to say a commentator has 1 duty and that is to fulfil his employer’s requirements which in this case is to get ratings. Job done!
 

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