Yep, because let's just take five stand-alone games from a data set of over 150 games to form our conclusions.
And let's completely ignore the final games of the teams' respective seasons on two occasions, one being a 39 point loss to Richmond in the 2018 Preliminary Final (that loss being against a Collingwood team that would just sneak into the top 10 of that club's best teams in the past 22 seasons), and the other being a 56 point win to Collingwood in the 2010 Grand Final Replay - the match that determined the season's premier under the rules of the day.
And let's just use margins, because it's obvious to us all that the 38 point margin of Geelong over Collingwood in the 2011 Grand Final was as emphatic and comfortable a victory as the 39 point margin of Collingwood over Richmond in the 2018 Preliminary Final (a game that was excluded from the original poster's 'analysis').
And let's completely disregard the quality of the opposition.
Just typical Meteoric Stats Sheet Anlalyst Ruse stuff....
Fagic - short for Fadge logic - says in order to determine the best team we should focus on:
- the home and away seasons, and not the 5 Grand Finals in order to determine who the best of these teams is
- the one terminal final Richmond failed to win over a 4 year period, and ignore the 4 that Collingwood failed to win over the same period, whichever way you extend it from 2010-11.
Which just leaves the small side issue of explaining 5 separate Grand Final results, not a single one of which would indicate his Collingwood team was better. So Fagic says all five of these results in the games the AFL uses to ultimately determine its best team each season were WRONG. Not 1 of the 5, or 2 or 3 or 4 of the 5, but all 5 of these Grand Finals were wrong according to fagic. Fadge almost poetically reduces these Grand Finals to the status of, and I quote: "five stand-alone games." As if they are not attached to the rest of the season, as if they are not utilised by the game's constitutionally appointed governing body, the AFL, to determine who the best team is. No, Fagic uses a superior determinant, performance in all the rest of the matches.
So let us examine the look 2 teams over 4 year periods including ALL matches they played.
Collingwood best 4 year period they had a record of 77 wins 2 draws 24 losses.
- Win percentage in all matches 75% That is ALL the matches they played in their best 4 year period.
- 0 Grand Final wins.
- 1 Premiership courtesy of the mulligan do again match that occurred the week after the drawn Grand Final in 2010.
- Grand Final percentage of 80%
- 2 Minor Premierships by a combined total of 1.5 wins
v
Richmond 4 year dynasty period 71 wins 1 draw 23 losses.
- Win % in all matches 75%.
- 3 Grand Final wins for
- 3 Premierships
- Grand Final percentage of 222%.
- 1 Minor Premiership by a total of 2 wins
It seems they had the same win % over their respective best 4 year periods, only Richmond's finals performances were on a different planet, and their minor Premiership was by a greater margin than Collingwood's 2 minor Premierships combined. And under the fagic thinking structure, this of course means Collingwood were the better team.
I will leave Fadge himself to explain the next bit as there is no better person in the world to navigate us through that complicated morass of rating how much more difficult it was to win football matches in Collingwood's peak period than it was in Richmond's....readers definitely do not want to miss this next instalment of fagic, which I am sure he will be along to regale us with shortly.
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