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Re: Onya Eddie

GoBackToVFL said:
yes very pro victorian, and exactly why he's bad for the AFL. When will you silly victorians get it?? He does nothing for the good of the afl, nothing for the other states, the non-vic teams, nothing but insult them

bulldogs should have been relegated years ago btw. how long are we going to beat the dead horse?

working to the advantage of 11 teams is working for the AFL
 
Re: Onya Eddie

The Fireman said:
This comment is why I sometimes think it is a shame that we went national .:(

Firey love your work, but the vfl went national to drag itself out of a hole. suburban footy was dying and they literally fell over themselves getting the cash the two new teams brought with them.

Going national certainly saved a lot of vic teams, hell we might not have still been an entity if it were'nt for going to the afl. As too the comment really teams do have to start owning up to the fact that if a supporter base or sponsor base isn't there to drive it's existance is it really valid to exist.

Doggies or roos, for years have rolled on really not getting anywhere, as a fan of these clubs its up to you to get these teams on track, membership keeps your team alive, don't sit back in five years moaning your team folded.
 

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Re: Eddie McGuire press release

Saintsfan said:
eddie continuously rants that the collingwood football club will never wear anything but it's traditional jumper, will never wear an alternative strip blah blah blah, well it's ok to try and stick up for him with the black and white stripes crap but Eddie as president presided over the changing of the traditional collingwood jumper to accomodate a sponsor and that in my book is selling out.
You are wrong. Prove otherwise and I’ll concede but all I have heard is Collingwood are black and white stripes and always will be. I have also heard Eddie say that Collingwood don’t NEED an alternate strip. I agree wholeheartedly with that. Nevertheless I have been saying on here for two years that Collingwood will have an alternate strip of black and white stripes with a white backing on the back and that is what was announced and displayed at the AGM along with two variations of each with shorts and socks.

As for a change to accommodate a sponsor I don’t know where you get from. Emirates were sponsors before the change but regardless way back in 1991 I recall John Birt saying we should change. It was on the agenda for a long time – much to me annoyance. In any case, accommodating sponsors is part of football these days. Personally I’d prefer 1 jumper and I’d prefer it to be alternating black and white stripes with only a smallish spot of sold white for a black number. That might be because it is what we had when I grew up. That was 1 of many variants of our black and white stripes. The jumper has changed over the years. The integral Collingwood aspect of black and white stripes is what we have to fight to defend and I’m happy to say that is what we have done.
 
Re: Eddie McGuire press release

MarkT said:
What makes you think Collingwood supporters don’t understand? In my experience they definitely understand and in fact it is partly why Eddie was re elected unopposed a year ago. Collingwood supporters understand and appreciate.
Collingwood supporters understand the situation, but they do not understand the situation from a non-Collingwood perspective. How can they when they barrack for Collingwood.
 
Re: Eddie McGuire press release

MarkT said:
Eddie hasn’t had 10 years. After 6 years what had Collis delivered? A suck up sweetheart deal with Eddie to guarantee the Sydney home game to turn another loss into a profit? Give all the credit in the world to Paul Roos for a flag – he most definitely deserves it. Absolute legend and superstar of the game in every respect. I’d kill for him at Collingwood. Collis you can most definitely keep.

Does Collis get paid BTW? I wouldn't have a clue to be honest. Most presidents are honorary roles. What's the deal with Collis?

Are you saying Sydney only makes a profit because they play Collingwood at Telstra stadium?Any figures to back that up?

Under Colless Sydney is successful on and off the field.We'll keep him thanks.
 
Re: Onya Eddie

Moo said:
I'm no Eddie fan but the comments flying here are ridiculous.

Here is a thread for some positive stuff.

I've enjoyed watching the Footy Show over many years and Eddies has helped Freo by always being willing to promote the game and be especially visible.

Credit where credit is due.

His C'wood bit gives me the poops but so does a whole lot of other cruds from other teams.

So good on ya Eddie, what a lot of people are missing is that losing the rights is not the end of one Edward M....just another change of direction that he will take in his stride.
Excellent post. One of the few sensible, balanced assessments of Eddie I've seen on this forum. :thumbsu:
 
Re: Onya Eddie

The Fireman said:
This comment is why I sometimes think it is a shame that we went national .:(

... and this comment is why the rest of us in the AFL sometimes take the view that Victorians are myopic, small minded people (when it comes to footy) who are not remotely interested in anything other than their little suburban clubs.

Fortunately, the comments from Saintsfan give us hope that their are some more open-minded punters over there.

The licence fees from the Eagles & Bears saved many VFL teams. The subsequent expansions have led to a situation in which the comp can get $780 million in TV rights.

Its the small minded stuff that has caused the NRL to fall behind the AFL, thank God some more sensible heads have actually pushed past this stuff. Now if we could just move the administration away from Melbourne maybe they would get an even broader view! :D

Cheers :)
 
Re: Eddie McGuire press release

Leon said:
I agree with you on most of those points, when all is said and done Eddie has been a terrific president for Collingwood but surely the move from Vic Park is something that must get up the noses of Pies fans?

The Pies fans I know loved that ground deeply (a feeling I'm sure you and all Collingwood fans would share) and are disappointed that Eddie decided to move the club away from their traditional home. Even I am sad to see that the ground is no longer used by Collingwood and I'm not a Collingwood supporter.
I would think the vast majority of Collingwood fans, Eddie included, would love nothing more than to play 11 home games at Vic Park and use it as our training venue and social club. The AFL reneged on a minimum game deal a long time ago which lead to Collingwood being sued by Spotless (the same company of which Ron Evans is a director). The AFL didn’t want Vic Park and fazed it out as a playing venue. The reality is Collingwood out grew it anyway. Given Collingwood had to move home game venue the G was clearly the logical alternative. Once games were no longer at Vic Park the social club became a disaster. The ground and facilities fell into further disrepair. The last practice match I went to a couple of years ago half the ground had been condemned and was fenced off. The players and administrative facilities were 3rd rate.

I miss Vic Park. I miss the drop kick, I miss standing in the outer near the fence and I miss Bob Rose but all of them have had their time and none of them are coming back.

There are a number of Collingwood supporters who still disagree with the final relocation and there are some pretty arguments put up. The reality is though that time killed it and one way or another we had to grow up and leave home. It will always feel like home though.
 
Re: Onya Eddie

The Fireman said:
This comment is why I sometimes think it is a shame that we went national .:(


Just be thankful that the vfl became the afl or clubs like yours would have folded and gone the way of fitzroy by 1988.

If anything the non victorian teams own your club big time..and not one iota of thanks.
 
Re: Onya Eddie

Diego said:
Eddie is great if you follow a victorian team. For us who follow interstate teams Eddie is a just a hinderance and an annoying arse__wipe. Sure he has helped vic clubs, but what has done for the national comp in general? Nothing.

The upside is now the swans in Sydney will be back to being Ch 7 darling love child like they were between 1997-2000.

ur sad ignorant tool bag, eddie helped make sure 16AFL clubs will be safe until 2012, helped make the AFL the biggest sport in AUS and also helped out every club in the comp and would do anything for AFL.. go back to ur hole :mad:
 
Re: Onya Eddie

FuManchu said:
working to the advantage of 11 teams is working for the AFL
not really. not when you have 11 teams for 4 million people, and 5 teams for the other 16 million. not when the one thing the AFL needs to promote the sport in the rugby states is local derbies.

the current balance of teams is not good for the AFL, it wont last long, and fighting it is just delaying the inevitable

but you keep sharing the small pie amoung 11 victorian teams, its fine by me...It will be a very long time before the cup returns
 
Re: Eddie McGuire press release

MarkT said:
You are wrong. Prove otherwise and I’ll concede but all I have heard is Collingwood are black and white stripes and always will be. I have also heard Eddie say that Collingwood don’t NEED an alternate strip. I agree wholeheartedly with that. Nevertheless I have been saying on here for two years that Collingwood will have an alternate strip of black and white stripes with a white backing on the back and that is what was announced and displayed at the AGM along with two variations of each with shorts and socks.

As for a change to accommodate a sponsor I don’t know where you get from. Emirates were sponsors before the change but regardless way back in 1991 I recall John Birt saying we should change. It was on the agenda for a long time – much to me annoyance. In any case, accommodating sponsors is part of football these days. Personally I’d prefer 1 jumper and I’d prefer it to be alternating black and white stripes with only a smallish spot of sold white for a black number. That might be because it is what we had when I grew up. That was 1 of many variants of our black and white stripes. The jumper has changed over the years. The integral Collingwood aspect of black and white stripes is what we have to fight to defend and I’m happy to say that is what we have done.


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from 1897 to 2001 this was the traditional collingwood jumper, a basic white rag with dirty convict bars on them. So 104/5 years of tradition there I would think, basically you would think when eddie espouses tradition this would be the thing he dribbles on about ad nauseam, not changing the jumper and he used the forum many describe as the collingwood show to vent saying collingwood would never change it's jumper but

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was done simply because the emirates logo looked so much better on a black background. red on black istead of the TRADITIONAL white, so if he can change the fundamental basic design simply for a sponsor obviously the man is a hypocrite.

Defend it all you like, rave on about white and black stripes to defend him, lord knows you guys just love sticking fat with eddie, good on yas, he decided to let a sponsors logo change something that was how it was for 100 odd years, if someone offered enough you'd be called the ford telstra cadbury yumbo's and eddie would come up with a way to make it all sound right and then you'd all defend him to the hilt again

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Re: Onya Eddie

GoBackToVFL said:
not really. not when you have 11 teams for 4 million people, and 5 teams for the other 16 million. not when the one thing the AFL needs to promote the sport in the rugby states is local derbies.

the current balance of teams is not good for the AFL, it wont last long, and fighting it is just delaying the inevitable

but you keep sharing the small pie amoung 11 victorian teams, its fine by me...It will be a very long time before the cup returns

you do the sums the way you want to and I'll do the sums the way i want to. 11/16 is a majority of AFL club members, the ones that actually help pay for the clubs to exist and attend games
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

They have had more than 2 jumpers. Eddie talks about black and white stripes. When did he say Collingwood would never change their jumper? What makes you say any change was for Emirates let alone that this would be a sellout of the club?

PS your club went yellow for Milk.
 
Re: Onya Eddie

Eagle87 said:
... and this comment is why the rest of us in the AFL sometimes take the view that Victorians are myopic, small minded people (when it comes to footy) who are not remotely interested in anything other than their little suburban clubs.

Fortunately, the comments from Saintsfan give us hope that their are some more open-minded punters over there.

The licence fees from the Eagles & Bears saved many VFL teams. The subsequent expansions have led to a situation in which the comp can get $780 million in TV rights.

Its the small minded stuff that has caused the NRL to fall behind the AFL, thank God some more sensible heads have actually pushed past this stuff. Now if we could just move the administration away from Melbourne maybe they would get an even broader view! :D

Cheers :)
this works both ways, I honestly believe the theory that Vic clubs would have folded without the national league is overdone. The Vic Clubs are now under more pressure to compete against 1 or 2 team states. Your comments of myopic etc are typical of the us and them concept, personally I like the way the game is heading but it makes my blood boil when I constantly hear interstators calling for the abolision of some Vic clubs, so you see that my thoughts are in response to those comments.
We were very happy in Vic with our Comp and why wouldn't we be , we had the best from all over the country playing here every week at grds right next door so I'm sure you'll understand our situation.
Cheers :)
 
Re: Onya Eddie

Diego said:
Just be thankful that the vfl became the afl or clubs like yours would have folded and gone the way of fitzroy by 1988.

If anything the non victorian teams own your club big time..and not one iota of thanks.
Typically stupid comment by an interstater. It's a shame that Sth moved to Sydney in the first place let alone have w@nkers like you support it.
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

MarkT said:
They have had more than 2 jumpers. Eddie talks about black and white stripes. When did he say Collingwood would never change their jumper? What makes you say any change was for Emirates let alone that this would be a sellout of the club?

PS your club went yellow for Milk.
its not about my club, but there you go criticising us for going yellow changing our jumper for sponsors look up hypocrite somewhere or have a friend that can read explain it to you. Now as to your continued covering up for eddie you are getting two issues confused Eddie rants on about the black and white stripes in a seperate issue as to why Port can't wear thier traditional SANFL strip in the AFL. As to clash jumpers edddie rants on anout how the collingwood jumper has remained unchanged for 3 millenia yata yata yata, then oversees change to make it look prettier for a sponsor, thats just the same as going yellow, it's just the same as selling out and perhaps if you got eddies nutsack out of the way for a little while it wouldn't cloud your view


so your telling me if essendon reversed their design black on a red jumper it wouldn't be different or richmond black sash on yellow?? because that is in essence exactly what the pies have done
 
Re: Onya Eddie

teams said:
Odds of Collingwood winning the flag in the 2007-2011 period are shorter tonight.
How so? Because Eddie has more time to devote to his club? You’ve lost me with this one.
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

Where did I criticise?

All I can do is ask again. Where did Eddie say what you claim? I don’t believe he said it. If he did he was wrong but all I have ever heard him say is what I have said about the black and white stripes. All of that is apart from your unsubstantiated claim that the change of 2001 was for Emirates. Port supporters claim it was about them. None of it is based on anything but wishful thinking.

As for the nutsack line, all I have done is dispute what you say because I don't believe it to be accurate. Prove it and I'll shut up. Otherwise I remain of the belief I have expressed a million time on here. It appears you believe my views are due to loyalty. It’s a common claim from people whose views and opinion are due to the opposite. I suggest you do the research on the word hypocrite. I know exactly what it means.
 
Re: Onya Eddie

The Fireman said:
Typically stupid comment by an interstater. It's a shame that Sth moved to Sydney in the first place let alone have w@nkers like you support it.


poor diddums. still bitter at the last qrt which won us a flag. I still watch the last qrt and laugh when i see the hordes of st dildo supporters leaving the ground in masses. Was funnier live!
 
Re: Onya Eddie

Jimbeam said:
ur sad ignorant tool bag, eddie helped make sure 16AFL clubs will be safe until 2012, helped make the AFL the biggest sport in AUS and also helped out every club in the comp and would do anything for AFL.. go back to ur hole :mad:

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I know it might be a bit of a hard read for you, but once you have finished it come back and post.

Cheers

:)
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

Saintsfan said:
its not about my club, but there you go criticising us for going yellow changing our jumper for sponsors look up hypocrite somewhere or have a friend that can read explain it to you. Now as to your continued covering up for eddie you are getting two issues confused Eddie rants on about the black and white stripes in a seperate issue as to why Port can't wear thier traditional SANFL strip in the AFL. As to clash jumpers edddie rants on anout how the collingwood jumper has remained unchanged for 3 millenia yata yata yata, then oversees change to make it look prettier for a sponsor, thats just the same as going yellow, it's just the same as selling out and perhaps if you got eddies nutsack out of the way for a little while it wouldn't cloud your view


so your telling me if essendon reversed their design black on a red jumper it wouldn't be different or richmond black sash on yellow?? because that is in essence exactly what the pies have done

still black and white stripes are u stupid or someting.. collingwood has never ever once been a sell out, we have a proud history and whatever u say, ur just a saints supporter who is obviously bitter because ur club are total sellouts.... you do where yellow for milk mate get over it, u have no real honerable history anyway so who cares, ur just a candy side with all your PP and players from years of failure.. but we have alwasy worn black and white stripes, simple...:confused:
 
Re: Onya Eddie

FuManchu said:
you do the sums the way you want to and I'll do the sums the way i want to. 11/16 is a majority of AFL club members, the ones that actually help pay for the clubs to exist and attend games
i thought it was the tv rights, particually to Collingwoods friday night games that was keeping the game alive ;)

oh but hang on, the AFL member tell us its them keeping the game afloat. Or what about the truckloads of money the MCC donate to the AFL each year? ;)

anyway, the majority of club members are in victoria, yes, but i cant see what point you are trying to make. Working towards maintaining this majority is just plain stupid. Its like not letting your wife get a better job because you want to be the main breadwinner (even if you are on the dole). If doesn't really help the family.
 
Re: How would Eddie be feeling right now?

Jimbeam said:
still black and white stripes are u stupid or someting.. collingwood has never ever once been a sell out, we have a proud history and whatever u say, ur just a saints supporter who is obviously bitter because ur club are total sellouts.... you do where yellow for milk mate get over it, u have no real honerable history anyway so who cares, ur just a candy side with all your PP and players from years of failure.. but we have alwasy worn black and white stripes, simple...:confused:
yeah sellout its easy to say hey, changing to yellow, reversing the colurs so a sponsors logo looks good, wow eddie is like jesus to you guys, years of failure, pp's wah wah wah, sellout even put a sponsors name before a club legend at the primrose oil, colgate, fudge browny, lexus bob something or other oval! Sellout!!!! a club champion demeaned in such a way, how many games did lexus play again, sellouts

but eddie does bring us money in, yes because nothing at collingwood is important in any way other than monetry value!! Jim beam is cheap crappy bourbon to by the way just like your cheap crappy post
 

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