Opinion Commentary & Media VI

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Club should keep out of politics but pressure was probably brought to bear. I am a definate NO.

You just don't see these sorts of posts around Anzac Day. I guess the club should keep out of politics that I don't approve of is a more accurate statement.

 

[north_lad]

You just don't see these sorts of posts around Anzac Day. I guess the club should keep out of politics that I don't approve of is a more accurate statement.

Have you noticed that everyone that posts this kind of thing cannot spell the words DEFINITE or DEFINITELY - there's no ****ing A in it

 

[Twangler]

They both intentionally empower one section of their countries population over another, by way of race.

The intent is irrelevant.

If you think the Voice will not be immediately exploited, I'd love to have what your having.


It's already happening in private business to a massive extent.


We are already heading down the way of South Africa with some of their overcorrections post apartheid imo.


Western democracy is not having legislation regarding racial quotas in workforces, it's not favouritism in a fair society for government contracts based on the race of a company director, it's not favouritism for University placements because of your race etc etc.

Sound at all familiar?

I get what you are saying but I don’t think there is right now a danger of ‘over correcting’ given the differences in life expectancy and the wealth gap etc etc.

I’m all for equality of opportunity over equality of outcome but for that to happen we need a level playing field which I feel just isn’t the case when we need to overcome unconscious biases and other historic and systemic factors that create structural disadvantages. I don’t like the idea of quotas either but it can be a necessary temporary solution.

I hope I’m making sense!!

 

[Chadwiko]

Love you Euge.

 

[Zondor]

Or maybe they are doing the right thing by the players and staff.

I'm yet to decided which way to vote, still listening to both arguments. But I certainly don't have an issue with the stand the Club has taken, as I don't doubt for a minute that they consulted our first nation players before deciding on a stance.

Thing is Zondor, you being a smart man know full well the club can have a view point and then look for ways to use it to leverage for some Pat Cash. It doesn't have to be "let's take this view point cause it will get us some dosh".

Yes Zondor is a smart man. Kudos to you Mav for realising this. :stern look

 

[William Caresser]

"All and sundry" - everyone.

 

[Mav]

Yes Zondor is a smart man. Kudos to you Mav for realising this. :stern look

The blatantly obvious doesn't get past old Mav.

 

[king of the road]

I've currently got 35 first nations employees. The vast majority of them are absolutely hopeless out of a workforce of over 300, which has nothing to do with race, but more to do with how they have been trained to enter the workforce, absolutely everything has been spoonfed to them, they have been advanced in every aspect of their training and schooling. Even the job I gave to most of them was unearned over other applications of merit, purely because I needed to meet required race quotas.

I need a mandated workforce % of first nations people for government tender applications.

I have to spend a % of turnover on first nations registered companies, regardless of price. Of which price gouging is absolutely rife.

To become a first nation registered company a first nations director has to own a 51% share of said company.

There's certain high profile first nations ex-athletes and ex-AFL footballers who are currently silent partners in dozens of private companies to enable this registration.

They almost run themselves as a registration ATM at the moment, requesting massive lump sum upfront payments to facilitate it.


This is pre The Voice and is only growing exponentially at the moment.


It's sickening to most of us who already encounter it and have to tow the line because we are trying to keep buisness' afloat and keep employees in work, let alone actually enshrining this inequality in our constitution......

Systemic inequity is rife. You’re the unfortunate bearer of that in this instance.
Others have been on the end of it for a long time.

 

[gokangas]

So who thinks it will get up and who thinks it won't? Will be very interesting.

 

[Mav]

Have you noticed that everyone that posts this kind of thing cannot spell the words DEFINITE or DEFINITELY - there's no ******* A in it

Do you use "donot" or "havenot"? I ****ing hate it when people use "cannot". And while we're on grammar, let's look at punctuation. You need a full stop at the end of your sentence.

 

[archerboy]

Oh joy another thread derailed

 

[Twangler]

Do you use "donot" or "havenot"? I ******* hate it when people use "cannot". And while we're on grammar, let's look at punctuation. You need a full stop at the end of your sentence.

Unlike donot and havenot, both can not and cannot are correct…

 

[Mav]

Unlike donot and havenot, both can not and cannot are correct…

Exactly my point. Didn't say it wasn't correct, I just hate it. It's a bastardization of two words to become one, but that hasn't happened with similar words. But yeah, that's the English language for you. It evolves and changes as people see fit. So if someone wants to change the spelling of a word to fit in with their accent then why play the grammar police? You're either for change or against it, and 'cannot' only became into being in the 15th century (from my quick google search), so make up ya mind.

 

[Ligma]

Omg

 

[Twangler]

Exactly my point. Didn't say it wasn't correct, I just hate it. It's a bastardization of two words to become one, but that hasn't happened with similar words. But yeah, that's the English language for you. It evolves and changes as people see fit. So if someone wants to change the spelling of a word to fit in with their accent then why play the grammar police? You're either for change or against it, and 'cannot' only became into being in the 15th century (from my quick google search), so make up ya mind.

What are your thoughts on into and onto then? Do they get a pass?

 

[Mav]

What are your thoughts on into and onto then? Do they get a pass?

I go into a pub and then onto the game. That works fine for me.

 

[Harris 10]

The last 2 pages of this thread is the first time I’ve read or listened to anything about the voice to parliament.

Think, I’ll keep it that way for a bit longer.

 

[Samsquanch]

there's no ******* A in it

Who ever put an "A" in "it"?

 

[Mav]

Omg

my point exactly

 

[Mav]

The last 2 pages of this thread is the first time I’ve read or listened to anything about the voice to parliament.

Think, I’ll keep it that way for a bit longer.

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Passmore]

I go into a pub and then onto the game. That works fine for me.

Gasometer take note….

 

[Boner Spirit]

Have you noticed that everyone that posts this kind of thing cannot spell the words DEFINITE or DEFINITELY - there's no ******* A in it

Who ever put an "A" in "it"?

H from Line of Duty

 

[Ligma]

my point exactly

I am the queen of spelling and grandma!!

 

[Chadwiko]

So who thinks it will get up and who thinks it won't? Will be very interesting.

It'll get up.

 

[Rooboys Rool]

So who thinks it will get up and who thinks it won't? Will be very interesting.

Seems support is gradually declining, so I think it probably won’t get up, but a long way to go yet.

From what I’ve seen, the Yes campaign will do well at convincing people that already intend to vote Yes; not so well at convincing those on the fence or in the No camp.

So I think it might fail due to a poorly run Yes campaign rather than a well reasoned No campaign, which IMO is just what happened in 99 for the vote on the Republic, but that’s another story.