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chubbspeterson said:
All in Robbo's top 50 players.
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50 players divided by 18 clubs is like 2.75 players per club. Considering we finished second last again, that’s not bad.

Saying that, Robbo sees double quite a lot, so it’s more like a top 100.

In 2 years time (end of the 2026 season) which North players make a Top 50?

LDU, Xerri, Sheez, Wardlaw & Larkey?
 
marklovesbeer said:
50 players divided by 18 clubs is like 2.75 players per club. Considering we finished second last again, that’s not bad.

Saying that, Robbo sees double quite a lot, so it’s more like a top 100.

In 2 years time (end of the 2026 season) which North players make a Top 50?

LDU, Xerri, Sheez, Wardlaw & Larkey?
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Oh tough question. McKercher and Curtis potentially could. Powell? Duursma? This years 1st?
 
marklovesbeer said:
50 players divided by 18 clubs is like 2.75 players per club. Considering we finished second last again, that’s not bad.

Saying that, Robbo sees double quite a lot, so it’s more like a top 100.

In 2 years time (end of the 2026 season) which North players make a Top 50?

LDU, Xerri, Sheez, Wardlaw & Larkey?
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I still think Zurharr has the potential, but he takes too long to build into form and even at his best is spotty.
Comben with 2 more years of continuity and experience could be bloody anything.
Paul Curtis keeps building and has some fantastic attributes that could take him anywhere, especially if the forward line ever began to actually function like it should.
I think Logue at his very best for an entire season would be on the cusp of the threshold.

None of those four are sure things, and require more things to go right than the 5 you named (though I would probably include Wardlaw on this side of the fence), but in an alternative "everything goes well for two whole years" universe I think they have the potential to be included in those type of lists.
 
marklovesbeer said:
50 players divided by 18 clubs is like 2.75 players per club. Considering we finished second last again, that’s not bad.

Saying that, Robbo sees double quite a lot, so it’s more like a top 100.

In 2 years time (end of the 2026 season) which North players make a Top 50?

LDU, Xerri, Sheez, Wardlaw & Larkey?
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You’d want mckercher and duursma in there.. but I reckon Archer might be in there for the 2026 top 50
 
DuckYeah said:
You’d want mckercher and duursma in there.. but I reckon Archer might be in there for the 2026 top 50
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That would be some serious jump in his offensive ability.
 
Mcarcherey said:
garner was great other than the injuries, hindsight is 20/20
Eagles thought mcdonald was worth pick 8....
at the time durdin was regarded a steal as a late first rounder
mckay we got 5 good seasons and pick 3 -win
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It's a bad period of drafting. There's no need to sugar coat it. It's one of the primary reasons for our last five horrible seasons.

But yeah you're right Garner could have been a good player. And McCay was actually quite a good pick at 21 and his being vastly overrated and offered a stupid contract meant we got pick 4 in 2023 (Zane Duursma) so hopefully that ends up working out really nice for us in the end.
 
marklovesbeer said:
50 players divided by 18 clubs is like 2.75 players per club. Considering we finished second last again, that’s not bad.

Saying that, Robbo sees double quite a lot, so it’s more like a top 100.

In 2 years time (end of the 2026 season) which North players make a Top 50?

LDU, Xerri, Sheez, Wardlaw & Larkey?
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Robbo should do a bottom 50 like Mofra does. I reckon we'd be well over the 2.75 there too.
 

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Roo202 said:
I can understand Lions fans would happily sit for the best part of half an hour while their new premiership coach held court, but wow, even for the most rusted on cat, half an hour of Chris Scott....🤢
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Most of it was a PowerPoint presentation of upcoming real estate development projects.
 

Liar liar, pants on fire. Todays Herald Sun calls out the bull5hit.​

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AFL trade period a festival of lies as list managers and recruiters treat the public for fools​

It’s the time of year for list managers and recruiters to shine, but the trade period has become a festival of lies. SCOTT GULLAN writes, the days of getting away with such gibberish are gone.

October 8, 2024 - 6:36PM
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Trade HQ​

As all 18 clubs shuffled into Marvel Stadium for the official start of the AFL trade period, one list boss summed it up perfectly: “Welcome to the Festival of Lies”.
Each club representative was given an allocated time to spin their narratives in front of the cameras and this was where the fun began.
For many of these list managers and recruiters, this is their time to shine. For two months each year the spotlight is on them with free agency and trading in October followed by the national draft in November.
So there is some pressure to come with your best stuff or should that be your best efforts to rewrite history.
Tim Lamb at the AFL Trade Period. Picture: Getty Images

Tim Lamb at the AFL Trade Period. Picture: Getty Images
Poor old Tim Lamb, Melbourne’s list boss, was on a hiding to nothing. It was like he was facing up to Curtly Ambrose on a sticky wicket without a helmet.
So it was no surprise he nicked the first ball through to the keeper.
“Clayton (Oliver) will be at the club next year 100 per cent. He has never been offered for trade. If a player has a meeting it doesn’t mean they want to leave. He is happy to be with us next year,” Lamb said.
Say what?
So everything that had gone on for the past couple of weeks, didn’t really happen, Timmy? Your CEO Gary Pert didn’t ring opposition clubs to gauge their interest in Oliver?


So Geelong just out of the blue decided to contact Oliver’s manager, arrange for him to meet their CEO Steve Hocking and football boss Andrew Mackie and then another clandestine meeting at ruckman Rhys Stanley’s farm with a group of players, including vice-captain Tom Stewart.
They did all this for fun because apparently there was no means to an end as he wasn’t being “offered for trade”.
There has been plenty of talk surrounding [PLAYERCARD]Clayton Oliver[/PLAYERCARD]’s future. Picture: Getty Images

There has been plenty of talk surrounding Clayton Oliver’s future. Picture: Getty Images
AFL clubs love treating the public for fools; there are some who think it’s part of the game trying to hoodwink fans. The days of getting away with such gibberish are gone.
Certainly other clubs aren’t falling for any of this rubbish, but yet there were plenty trying to put it on.
Take Sydney’s list manager Chris Keane on Luke Parker: “We haven’t started discussions with North Melbourne yet. It’s not as straightforward as people think. He’s a valuable player for us.”
Hang on, is this the same player you released a statement on last week with coach John Longmire thanking him for his years of service and then lauding him at the best and fairest count.

And is it the same 31-year-old who didn’t get into the senior team until Round 19?
The Western Bulldogs were on the same program, determined to erase the fact Caleb Daniel and Jack Macrae weren’t in their best 22 for most of the year.
Then there is other messaging that confuses everyone. Carlton is so in love with pick No.12 that the Blues are refusing to use it in a trade to get their No.1 target, two-time All-Australian Dan Houston.
Instead, we’re led to believe, they will happily stand aside and allow arch rival Collingwood to stroll in with pick No.13 and some extra steak knives attached to get him.
Confused? Don’t worry we all are.
 

Wife of former AFL star Ricky Olarenshaw arrested in Bali sex raids​

Essendon premiership star Ricky Olarenshaw has left Bali amid claims he was part-owner of a spa allegedly involved in “prostitution practices”.

October 11, 2024 - 5:24PM
Ricky Olarenshaw playing for Essendon.

Ricky Olarenshaw playing for Essendon.

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Essendon premiership star Ricky Olarenshaw has left Bali amid claims he was a part owner of a spa allegedly engaged in prostitution.
The long-time resident of the Indonesian party island has allegedly abandoned his wife, influencer Sarnanitha, who has now been arrested, and young daughter just before police raided Flame Spa massage parlour last month.
Bali police are reported to have uncovered alleged “prostitution practices” at the spa located in Seminyak, with the three Flame Spa massage parlour branches in Bali now reportedly closed.
Olarenshaw and his business partners are believed to have returned to Australia just before the raids took place.
It is not clear whether Olarenshaw or the other alleged owners had any knowledge of the goings-on at Flame.
Prostitution and sex work is illegal in Bali and considered a crime against “decency and morality” with district police periodically enforcing the law by carrying out raids on the party island.
James Hird and Rick Olarenshaw of the Bombers celebrate winning the 1993 AFL Grand Final. Picture: Getty Images

James Hird and Rick Olarenshaw of the Bombers celebrate winning the 1993 AFL Grand Final. Picture: Getty Images
At the time of the raids head of public relations of the Bali Police, senior commissioner of police Jansen Avitus Panjaitan, said that three women were arrested during the raid.
“The three people are Flame Spa employees, one manager and two receptionists,” Jansen said in his statement in Denpasar last month adding the case was still under investigation.
Olarenshaw’s wife Sarnanitha, who is named as a commissioner at Flame Spa, was later arrested along with director “Purnami” on October 4 and are languishing in Bali police detention cell with the three other spa staff.
“The next process is to immediately obtain legal certainty,” said Jansen.
According to the police, the service rates at Flames Spa — which has the motto “our service is more than just a sensual massage, it is an erotic experience. Our aim is to ignite your flame”, range from $189 to $283 per session.
Flame Spa in Bali.

Flame Spa in Bali.
Inside the Flame Spa.

Inside the Flame Spa.
Flame Spa, where Olarenshaw last year celebrated his 50th “Playboy themed” birthday and was pictured in happier times with his wife, is under the directorship of Ni Ketut Sri Astari which is Sarnanitha’s name.
An influencer and business owner known as Sarnanitha, she has more than 20,000 followers on social media.
She is currently fighting to avoid a lengthy stint in jail and is worried her young daughter with Olarenshaw will be taken away from her.
Sarnanitha, through her lawyer, Donny Tri Istiqomah, made a statement before being detained by police which has been seen by Page 13. According to her, Flame Spa belongs to Olarenshaw and three other Australian citizens.
She states the sensual massage leading to prostitution was run by Olarenshaw and his Australian business partners and felt exploited in the management of Flame Spa which provides sensual massage services.
The Flame Spa workers who are under arrest in Bali. Picture: Bali Police

The Flame Spa workers who are under arrest in Bali. Picture: Bali Police
It is illegal in Bali for a business to be owned by foreign citizens. In Sarnanitha’s statement she says “it has become common knowledge that the majority of businesses in Bali are owned by foreigners which are done illegally ... In some cases, including Flame Spa, the easiest and safest way to keep their business under their control is to marry Balinese women, then the business is in the name of his wife.”
Olarenshaw was a member of the ‘Baby Bombers’ 1993 premiership side.

Olarenshaw was a member of the ‘Baby Bombers’ 1993 premiership side.
In the statement she also alleges that after she and Olarenshaw separated earlier this year, the other shareholders threatened her to hand over the unpaid dividends or else they would imprison Sarnanitha along with other Flame staff “through their network in the police.”
The Herald Sun is not saying her allegations are true only that it has been made.
Page 13 has seen correspondence confirming this between the alleged Flame Australian business owners. None of the alleged men have responded to Page 13’s inquiries when asked about their involvement in Flame Spa.
Olarenshaw is known as ‘The King of Bali’ in AFL circles and last year drew headlines for his “epic” 50th birthday bash, surrounded by pole dancers and scantily clad women.
He moved to the island paradise in 2013 and became a successful businessman off the back of three F45 gym studios.
Rick Olarenshaw.

Rick Olarenshaw.
Olarenshaw was a member of the “Baby Bombers” 1993 premiership side alongside superstars James Hird, Dustin Fletcher and Mark Mercuri. He became a driving force for AFL in Bali, coaching and playing for the local Geckos football team.
Many AFL superstars — including Brownlow Medallist Dustin Martin, Dane Swan and Jordan De Goey — have trained and played with the Geckos during their off-season break.
Olarenshaw has been long known as the go-to man for AFL stars wanting to party in Bali over the past decade.
Olarenshaw’s Playboy-themed 50th in Bali. Pictures: Facebook

Olarenshaw’s Playboy-themed 50th in Bali. Pictures: Facebook
One of his former teammates Wayne Carey — he switched to North Melbourne for one season at the end of his career — has been a regular with his Instagram full of well-known football identities such as Melbourne coach Simon Goodwin and Ricky Nixon.
Olarenshaw played 77 games for Essendon - his debut year was in ‘93 - before spending two seasons at Collingwood in 1999-2000 where he only played five games. He then spent one season at North Melbourne for just one senior appearance before announcing his retirement.
He then moved into a role with Channel 7 as a boundary rider for a number of seasons before being replaced in 2010 by Matthew Richardson.
The Herald Sun is not suggesting any of Olarenshaw’s footy contacts ever used Flame Spa’s services or had any knowledge of it when visiting Bali. When contacted Olarenshaw did not respond to questions put forward by the Herald Sun.
 

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