Tasmania Congratulations on Tassie License. Mens team to enter 2028. Womens team TBA. Other details TBA 3/5

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The best way to prove that an AFL side can survive in Tasmania, well actually thrive and be successful, is to support the Tasmanian team which should be going into the VFL very soon. Make what is behind this team what AFL clubs wish they had and when 2025 comes around they will be allowing the Tasmanian side into the AFL.

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We're not saying the team has to win the premiership every year, it has to have a supporter base behind the team that an AFL club would want. If you can make the Tasmanian Devils into this sort of team, they will have to let you in. Prove us wrong, show us that a Tasmanian team can have enough support to become an AFL team. The AFL won't want to keep backing the Gold Coast Suns if they can see a Tasmanian team that can take there place.

Why do you want people to support the 2nd tier when no one else in Australia does?
 
Yes they can be.

How long do you think that will last, given the Brisbane Lions had the same assurances about minimum games in Melbourne? In the end it wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

The value to the TV rights is the extra game, not where it is played. Ratings in SEQ are terrible.

The value to the AFL is exposure in developing markets. A total of 2.59 million people watched the footy in Brisbane on the 7 network in 2019, at an average viewership of 28,000 per game. The Lions averaged 43,000 viewers per game in their home city, while the Suns rated 25,000. Games on tv in Brisbane featuring neither Queensland side rated an average of 23,000. This is no surprise given the Lions have a bigger membership base than the Suns given they have operated in the region for 30+ years (compared to the Suns 9 years) and have had greater success.

As the Suns continue to grow their membership base, their TV numbers will grow especially if they experience some on-field success.
 

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1. The Age C. Wilson 3.4

The AFL reduction of the Clubs' Football Dept. (not including player wage reductions) cap from $9.4m- to $6.4m pa may actually be permanently increased by more than $3m pa- & become a hard cap.



2. T. Cochrane, Gold Coast FC President said Nov. 2019 in the Gold Coast Bulletin

"...by adding a 9th game some years ago to the media rights' deal, even the biggest pessimist (ie about the long term existence of GCFC in the AFL- my words) would say that it is worth $50m per year (my emphasis) to the AFL".

See post #129 for the Cochrane $50m pa quote.


AFAIK, no other AFL or Club officials commented publicly on the value of the 9th weekly game (extra 22 pa) until late Sept. 2019.
In late Sept.2019, the following ascribed this value to it:-

. GWS CEO D. Matthews- $60m pa

. Expert journalists C. Le Grand (The Australian) & P. Durkin (AFR), citing unnamed AFL sources (but, by implication, included AFLC Chairman R. Goyder), each $54m pa.

For details, see my above posts #726,875,938,1251,1352,1373

IMO, these figures also include indirect financial benefits for the AFL & Clubs in adding GC & GWS to the AFL
eg new AFL stadia, new private sponsorships for GC & GWS, significant recent growth in GR AF in NSW, ACT, & Qld, much more free MSM publicity for the AFL etc.- as well as the Rights' cash benefits for the 9th game.)

If Tas. joins the AFL, the Tas. Business Case (which was also independently assessed) said it will provide $19m pa extra for the AFL (with 11 extra H& A games pa, & many more Thurs. night prime time slots).



Further permanent reductions in the Football Dept. cap, Lists down to30 (& other areas) will make it much less expensive to run an AFL club- & will enhance the small Tas. club's chances of AFL inclusion/ financial viability/ competitiveness.
 
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Tasmania cares nothing about AFL anymore, so many industries need rebuilding before investing in what will be a money pit of a sport.

It's never been proven beyond modeling that we got value for money.

North was never excepted and Hawthorn's crowds have been on life support for years.

There's a whole 365 day a year tourism industry on life support to care about beyond the odd game here or there.

The only people talking about AFL in Tas is AFL people.

Gota love Hutchies delusion "what would be wrong with taking a big check from the Tasmanian government towards football for a one season taste test".

AFL club land really does live in a fish bowl.

Where on earth is the big check hiding, pretty sure the premier would love to know right now.

Forget it, relocated, stand alone, this won't be seriously revisited in political terms for a decade.
 
Tasmania cares nothing about AFL anymore, so many industries need rebuilding before investing in what will be a money pit of a sport.

It's never been proven beyond modeling that we got value for money.

North was never excepted and Hawthorn's crowds have been on life support for years.

There's a whole 365 day a year tourism industry on life support to care about beyond the odd game here or there.

The only people talking about AFL in Tas is AFL people.

Gota love Hutchies delusion "what would be wrong with taking a big check from the Tasmanian government towards football for a one season taste test".

AFL club land really does live in a fish bowl.

Where on earth is the big check hiding, pretty sure the premier would love to know right now.

Forget it, relocated, stand alone, this won't be seriously revisited in political terms for a decade.
Hey mate do you think you could try and be a bit more pessimistic with your next post 😀
 
Sure ok, just mock me and offer nothing.
Ok even before the corona virus our chances of getting a team buy 2025 were very slim 2030 was the more realistic time frame a lot can change in that time obviously it’s looks like the afl will try hard to push north Melbourne here or at the very least have them play 7-8 games down here so our government would be effectively bankrolling them hopefully we’re not silly enough to do something like that!
 
The value to the AFL is exposure in developing markets. A total of 2.59 million people watched the footy in Brisbane on the 7 network in 2019, at an average viewership of 28,000 per game. The Lions averaged 43,000 viewers per game in their home city, while the Suns rated 25,000. Games on tv in Brisbane featuring neither Queensland side rated an average of 23,000. This is no surprise given the Lions have a bigger membership base than the Suns given they have operated in the region for 30+ years (compared to the Suns 9 years) and have had greater success.

As the Suns continue to grow their membership base, their TV numbers will grow especially if they experience some on-field success.
The value is in Melbourne where more than 2.59 million people watch AFL on 7 Network each fortnight.
And so for the hundreds of millions the AFL has invested into GC, they draw 2,000 more people watching per week? Yes, that is worth it for the networks.
 

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Could Tasmania join the AFL, as a 19th team, as the Tasmanian Yankees? And be a financial powerhouse, that could push the AFL (a bunch of pygmies & financial beggars) around?
(IIRC, American whalers were active in Bass Strait & Tasmanian waters pre 1850!).

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Major US financial institutions would generally be considered to have very little interest in GWS, or a Tasmanian 19th team- the potential profits (if there were any) would be far too small for US bighitters.
...UNLESS the main US long term objective was to introduce AF into the US as a major TV & stadium spectator sport; & as a major participant sport.

Put that in your pipe & smoke it.



SEN Melb. Radio G. Lyon/T.Watson program 9.4
D. Matthews on Possible US Purchase of GWS

 
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Could Tasmania join the AFL, as a 19th team, as the Tasmanian Yankees? And be a financial powerhouse, that could push the AFL (a bunch of financial beggars) around?
(IIRC, American whalers were active in Bass Strait & Tasmanian waters pre 1850).
The money that can potentially be made from GWS vs Tasmania isn't even comparable. GWS has the potential to become a powerhouse on the scale of West Coast, Tasmania does not. That's the reason the AFL chose Western Sydney for expansion, and that's the same reason why the Americans are interested. Can't see them being interested in a venture that everyone accepts will need significant government funding to remain afloat.
 
The money that can potentially be made from GWS vs Tasmania isn't even comparable. GWS has the potential to become a powerhouse on the scale of West Coast, Tasmania does not. That's the reason the AFL chose Western Sydney for expansion, and that's the same reason why the Americans are interested. Can't see them being interested in a venture that everyone accepts will need significant government funding to remain afloat.

Government funding to keep afloat - like the AFL subsidising GWS?
 
Government funding to keep afloat - like the AFL subsidising GWS?
The AFL makes at least $50m from the 9th game each week, meaning $25m per team on average. GWS gets between $22m and $25m from the AFL distribution each year, so they're paying their own way and are not being subsidised. And they've got about 6x the population as Tasmania to draw from in future.
 
The Age C. Wilson 9.4

"The AFL & Ch.7 look set to reinforce...a potential 2 year extension of the game's media rights...(in) a new marginally reduced contract that would rin until 2024".


The AFL in particular, & GR AF in general, will continue to make significant progress in NSW, ACT, & Qld.- especially as the other codes are facing MASSIVE financial retreats, & will be in disarray.
An historic triumph for the Australian game.

Prospects for A Tas. 19th team c. 2025 are good.


Thank you, Mr Swan, a GWS fan now (real name Jeff Sarau, played for St Kilda in the 70's. Living in the US now, hot-shot Bond Trader)

 
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The Age C. Wilson 9.4

"The AFL & Ch.7 look set to reinforce...a potential 2 year extension of the game's media rights...(in) a new marginally reduced contract that would rin until 2024".


The AFL in particular, & GR AF in general, will continue to make significant progress in NSW, ACT, & Qld.- especially as the other codes are facing MASSIVE financial retreats, & will be in disarray.
An historic triumph for the Australian game.

Prospects for A Tas. 19th team c. 2025 are good.


Thank you, Mr Swan.


As much I would love a team,the AFL just doesn't want a Tassie team,they are not going to expand just because Tassie wants a team.The Tasmania relies on too much government funding and Tasmania is just too small to sustain it,I hope I'm wrong but most people believe it won't happen sadly.
 
As much I would love a team,the AFL just doesn't want a Tassie team,they are not going to expand just because Tassie wants a team.The Tasmania relies on too much government funding and Tasmania is just too small to sustain it,I hope I'm wrong but most people believe it won't happen sadly.

More the reason to stop throwing Tasmanian $ at North. If the AFL has no intention of a Tasmanian team, North also should stand on their own.
 
As much I would love a team,the AFL just doesn't want a Tassie team,they are not going to expand just because Tassie wants a team.The Tasmania relies on too much government funding and Tasmania is just too small to sustain it,I hope I'm wrong but most people believe it won't happen sadly.
1. The AFL desperately want the fabled Tasmania VFL/AFL recruitment gold mine to be revived- but don't want to provide AFL funding any more than the average smaller Melb. AFL clubs. The permanent $54m pa (18 x $3m, with more to come) slashing of the bloated & overpaid Club Football Dept. costs (currently c. $180m pa), other Club major costs, & AFL HQ costs etc. will greatly improve the financial viability/chances of success of all smaller AFL clubs.

The shrinking of Club costs is VERY good news for the Tasmanian 19 th team; as is the 2 year renewal of the Rights to 2024 (with only a "marginal reduction" of the current $418m pa).



2. The Mercury 4.4

"Richmond CEO B. Gale continues to back Tasmania's AFL push, but says now, more than ever, emotion must be taken out of the argument"

(Behind pay wall-can anyone open?)
 
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