List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[WA footy mad]

And Geelong will get Bailey Smith

3

Bailey Smith

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

for pick 15. This shit is foul, I hate how willing our club's been to get bent over come trade period. It's disheartening. WTF no deal, Pick 59 or walk

 

[WA footy mad]

Surely the eagles wont do the deal with Richmond pick 13 is too valuable. Baker is on the decline has played his best footy

 

[Goomba1973]

Well, no, players can nominate their salary so if he goes to North it wouldn't be on rookie wages.

Well... I stand corrected, I did not know that. Either way Baker doesn't want to go to North, and Richmond want something for Baker.... All the cards are in WC favour for this trade.

 

[stallon]

Personally if Lindsay, Travaglia and Berry are gone I’d be more ok with it but I think at least one of Lindsay and Berry will be there and it’s going to give me the absolute shits.

Pick 13 is the last pick (excluding NGA/FS) before the talent drops off to the next level IMO. It’s why clubs are going so hard at GCS pick 12 and unfortunately at this stage we’re seemingly too stupid to realise the same applies to pick 13. It’s hugely valuable and a drop to 21 should not be trivialised as an “8 pick slide”.

What would GC get for 12? I havent seen any hypotheticals thrown around for it yet

Would Sydneys 17+19(19 will be pushed back from fa compo) get pick 12?
If this got 12, then for 13 that probably puts Baker at pick 16ish. Still overs imo but not as bad

 

[stallon]

Surely the eagles wont do the deal with Richmond pick 13 is too valuable. Baker is on the decline has played his best footy

Baker is 26, hes in his prime and should be for a few more years

 

[stallon]

It’s going to be more than 8 picks. Will have the Kako and Marshall bids and the compensation picks for Battle, Perryman and Cummings between them. So will probably end up being a 13 pick difference.

I dont think Cumming gets band 2 tbh

 

[briztoon]

I think they will get Clarry for unders but I reckon Sam Power and the Dogs will push back massively if their best offer for Baz is pick 15. They’ve already asked the AFL to audit the Cotton On payments Baz was getting during his contract with the Dogs.

Going to go down to the last day or not at all I reckon.

Dogs will try and play hard ball, but will end up rolling over after haggling over 4th rounders, in the last hour of the trade period.

Geelong will go to both Melbourne and Bulldogs and say first team to say yes get's pick 15, loser gets our future first.

 

[Elite Pete]

What would GC get for 12? I havent seen any hypotheticals thrown around for it yet

Would Sydneys 17+19(19 will be pushed back from fa compo) get pick 12?
If this got 12, then for 13 that probably puts Baker at pick 16ish. Still overs imo but not as bad

Sounds like Future first is the starting point. They have their points covered for this year but will need plenty for next. Not sure what else would have to be included.

Melb, Carlton, Pretty much everyone has been included in a possible deal for it besides us and Richmond

 

[eaglevision]

What would GC get for 12? I havent seen any hypotheticals thrown around for it yet

Would Sydneys 17+19(19 will be pushed back from fa compo) get pick 12?
If this got 12, then for 13 that probably puts Baker at pick 16ish. Still overs imo but not as bad

Collingwood are going hard with Noble and a suite of picks but won’t be close to some of the other pick only offers that will come through. GCS really want Noble though so may well take it.

They’ll have offers packaging F1s with late 1sts/early 2nds and probably some late picks as well. 17 + 19 would be a pretty strong offer, they can then likely trade both for good F1s and still have enough points this year.

 

[RanaNaved]

What did the Dog's end up giving to GC last year for pick 5?

 

[briztoon]

What would GC get for 12? I havent seen any hypotheticals thrown around for it yet

Would Sydneys 17+19(19 will be pushed back from fa compo) get pick 12?
If this got 12, then for 13 that probably puts Baker at pick 16ish. Still overs imo but not as bad

Pretty sure they want a future first round pick for their academy kids next year.

 

[briztoon]

What did the Dog's end up giving to GC last year for pick 5?

Too much. 3 first round picks.

 

[BartBart]

Baker is 26, hes in his prime and should be for a few more years

27 well before the start of the season.

 

[mat11]

Could just be a case that the recruiters see 13 and 21 as very similar in ability, and it keeps a 3rd pick in the top 30

If we give 13 for baker and 21, I'd like to think youre right. They'd obviously value someone like hamish davis the same as Xavier Lindsay and they'd call baker the steak knives in the deal. Davis is an example it could be hynes/Oliver etc


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[stallon]

Collingwood are going hard with Noble and a suite of picks but won’t be close to some of the other pick only offers that will come through. GCS really want Noble though so may well take it.

They’ll have offers packaging F1s with late 1sts/early 2nds and probably some late picks as well. 17 + 19 would be a pretty strong offer, they can then likely trade both for good F1s and still have enough points this year.

Sounds like Future first is the starting point. They have their points covered for this year but will need plenty for next. Not sure what else would have to be included.

Melb, Carlton, Pretty much everyone has been included in a possible deal for it besides us and Richmond

Do we not just go to Sydney or whoever comes second in the race for pick 12 and offer 13 for whatever they were offering, their f1 + whatever, 17+f1/19 from Sydney ill use as the example

If thats the going rate, it sounds like it shouldnt be an issue to find a more suitable pick for Baker

 

[stallon]

What did the Dog's end up giving to GC last year for pick 5?

10, 17 and their f1 I believe

 

[WA footy mad]

Baker in his prime Nah he showed nothing this year. He wont be around when we are fighting for a top 4 position in the future.

 

[briztoon]

Baker is 26, hes in his prime and should be for a few more years

He's a January birth, so will be 27 next year. He's 173cm and ~70kg.

He's a flanker who can support the midfield, but he's not a prime mover, or going to win you games off his own boot or grunt work.

 

[eaglevision]

Do we not just go to Sydney or whoever comes second in the race for pick 12 and offer 13 for whatever they were offering, their f1 + whatever, 17+f1/19 from Sydney ill use as the example

If thats the going rate, it sounds like it shouldnt be an issue to find a more suitable pick for Baker

You think that sounds logical, I think that sounds logical but all that matters is whether the club thinks it sounds logical.

 

[eaglespremiers]

5:50 is absolutely flying.
He's damn quick over 20m too, isn't he?

Speed and endurance combo

I don't think he'll do as well in the sprint and agility.
From Bendigo I expect to see Archer top those tests.
But Tobie's top speed when he gets going is very good.
That's why you see him cutting through the centre and burning off opponents.
And the great thing is that he's often doing this in the last quarter when everyone else is struggling to make it to the next contest.

 

[twce13]

Dogs will try and play hard ball, but will end up rolling over after haggling over 4th rounders, in the last hour of the trade period.

Geelong will go to both Melbourne and Bulldogs and say first team to say yes get's pick 15, loser gets our future first.

well dees can just say get f**d, given oliver still has, what 5 years to run ?

 

[LemmingMaster]

Max Rohr Claremont / WA 18s ruckman ...playing Claremont reserves has been invited to the WA State combine .
Wonder where the interest is from ...

In previous years, sometimes players get added without "interest" from other clubs to fill out numbers, especially in positions of low numbers of nominations.

 

[Keys]

Barrass for Baker and ????

Until we know what ???? is I’m reserving judgement but will acknowledge that at the moment I’m concerned that it’ll be less than optimal

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Nah good on Geelong. I don't like them, but they see value in so many player's other clubs are scared to touch

They also develop them...

 

[eaglevision]

Inside the Academy if anyone is interested.