List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[archiemoses]

There’s worse results than a straight Rotham - Brockman swap

Can we do the deal now pls?

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Can we do the deal now pls?

Hawks would get better value just handing you Brockman. I’d take the empty list spot over Rotham.

Dear god his name really is ROTham… His name says it all ROT. This poor guy!

 

[Dark Sharks]

How good is Rotham though. Got pace, good kick.

I know if I was a random club I'd be targetting him, good thing he's still contracted

Would do anything to sign him up for another 12 years though. Perfect replacement for Judd.

 

[squashface]

How good is Rotham though. Got pace, good kick.

I know if I was a random club I'd be targetting him, good thing he's still contracted

Would do anything to sign him up for another 12 years though. Perfect replacement for Judd.

Would need to be seeing a future third coming back our way as a sweetener before I’d consider giving him up

 

[WestCoast05]

Would be keen to see if this changes under Mitchell.

I wouldn't, I'd hate to see him tearing it up for the hawks.

That's because I'm probably the only one who is somewhat bullish on him - I think he has the tools to be b22.
I just think we have mismanaged him.

 

[Godfather32]

Hawks would get better value just handing you Brockman. I’d take the empty list spot over Rotham.

Dear god his name really is ROTham… His name says it all ROT. This poor guy!

Unfortunately the deal's been done, I heard from a source close to the club that our list manager even said full stop, no returns at the end of negotiations....so I guess you're stuck with him.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Unfortunately the deal's been done, I heard from a source close the club that our list manager even said full stop, no returns at the end of negotiations....so I guess you're stuck with him.

Hawks aren’t trading in another half back flanker. There’s been talk of trading one out as we have to many.

We have one of our own whom we can’t fit in and as a result of that fact, we too have mismanaged him in my opinion . One Denver Grainger Barrass.

If he can get his fitness levels up, he’d be going along nicely on a HBF.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Hawks would get better value just handing you Brockman. I’d take the empty list spot over Rotham.

Dear god his name really is ROTham… His name says it all ROT. This poor guy!

Rough Head.
HARDwick.
KoSCHITzke.

Etc.

 

[Obeanie1]

Hawks would get better value just handing you Brockman. I’d take the empty list spot over Rotham.

Dear god his name really is ROTham… His name says it all ROT. This poor guy!

You obviously didnt get your Legend status by being funny!

 

[Godfather32]

Hawks aren’t trading in another half back flanker. There’s been talk of trading one out as we have to many.

We have one of our own whom we can’t fit in and as a result of that fact, we too have mismanaged him in my opinion . One Denver Grainger Barrass.

If he can get his fitness levels up, he’d be going along nicely on a HBF.

Mate, Rotham is not a hbf, he could be the second coming of Brian Lake for you and hold down full back in your next grand final team!
You'd be stupid not to do this trade. You can completely, 100% trust me.

 

[Obeanie1]

Hawks aren’t trading in another half back flanker. There’s been talk of trading one out as we have to many.

We have one of our own whom we can’t fit in and as a result of that fact, we too have mismanaged him in my opinion . One Denver Grainger Barrass.

If he can get his fitness levels up, he’d be going along nicely on a HBF.

DGB is a bust and the Hawks know it. Been shopping him around past two trade periods with little interest.

Apart from Jaith who seems to be injured alot, Rotham would be as good as anything else Hawks have at half back, probably better.

 

[Eddie_Sandbrah]

Unfortunately the deal's been done, I heard from a source close to the club that our list manager even said full stop, no returns at the end of negotiations....so I guess you're stuck with him.

Hawks are giving us their first. Guy from the North board told me. He has a good track record of getting it right.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

DGB is a bust and the Hawks know it. Been shopping him around past two trade periods with little interest.

Apart from Jaith who seems to be injured alot, Rotham would be as good as anything else Hawks have at half back, probably better.

Our All Australian James Sicily and Jack Scrimshaw to name a couple.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I wish Rotham could get his head right...Love to have a tall, attacking winger with a very good kick.

Back yourself in man...FFS!!!!

 

[archiemoses]

If Ratugolea is worth a first rounder, then Rotham would be in a similar ball park.

 

[Obeanie1]

Our All Australian James Sicily and Jack Scrimshaw to name a couple.

Sisily is out every 2nd week suspended.

And Hawks fans keep mentioning Scrimshaw but apart from a couple of decent games and flashes hasnt done that much.

And neither of those guys can ruck.

So Rotham is much more flexible, can pkay forward too.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Sisily is out every 2nd week suspended.

And Hawks fans keep mentioning Scrimshaw but apart from a couple of decent games and flashes hasnt done that much.

And neither of those guys can ruck.

So Rotham is much more flexible, can pkay forward too.

We’re good thanks.

Scrimshaws a weapon, just finding new gears in 2023.

Sis was pretty well behaved in 2023. Throw in Hardwick and our backs are good.

Really need a CHB. A classy mid and another forward like Rioli.

 

[Obeanie1]

We’re good thanks.

Scrimshaws a weapon, just finding new gears in 2023.

Sis was pretty well behaved in 2023. Throw in Hardwick and our backs are good.

Really need a CHB. A classy mid and another forward like Rioli.

Didnt you have a classy forward like Rioli coming through though?

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Didnt you have a classy forward like Rioli coming through though?

He will be an eagle soon! If Brockman can find consistency you guys will have a great player on your hands. Has x factor

 

[Ishmael_]

Hawks aren’t trading in another half back flanker. There’s been talk of trading one out as we have to many.

We have one of our own whom we can’t fit in and as a result of that fact, we too have mismanaged him in my opinion . One Denver Grainger Barrass.

If he can get his fitness levels up, he’d be going along nicely on a HBF.

Actually mate, I'm not sure if you saw your learned colleague's post but he's a ready made KPD.

And he won the 2021 Grand Final sprint.

Show the man some respect.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Actually mate, I'm not sure if you saw your learned colleague's post but he's a ready made KPD.

And he won the 2021 Grand Final sprint.

Show the man some respect.

3rd defender according to afl.com.au

 

[Coasters7]

I wouldn't, I'd hate to see him tearing it up for the hawks.

That's because I'm probably the only one who is somewhat bullish on him - I think he has the tools to be b22.
I just think we have mismanaged him.

The game against the Dogs showed what he can do when he takes the game on and moves the ball quicker. I think he’s been one of the bigger victims of our shite gameplan and it’s stunted his attacking flair.

Would love to see him in a more attacking role or up on the wing because he has all the skills and athletic traits to do well, it’s just all in between the ears.

 

[MaxHunt]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

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Cal's latest rankings. Collard in the early 20's.

 

[Obeanie1]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his third Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2023 National Draft

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Cal's latest rankings. Collard in the early 20's.

He's linked Collard to our pick 19 Id suggest.

Hopefully he hasnt heard anything from other clubs.

I dont want the club to blink first with Collard.

 

[Obeanie1]

The game against the Dogs showed what he can do when he takes the game on and moves the ball quicker. I think he’s been one of the bigger victims of our shite gameplan and it’s stunted his attacking flair.

Would love to see him in a more attacking role or up on the wing because he has all the skills and athletic traits to do well, it’s just all in between the ears.

Between the ears.

AND our shite game plan.

And covid.

And our injuries.

Id swap him for Brockman and the Hawks should be happy with that. Both fringe players with potential.