List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

[Keys]

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Eastern Rangers]

Hawthorn board. Going to be a busy couple of months on here

Would be a smart get from Hawthorn.

I know some here don't rate him but he's been poorly utilised.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Oh well.

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[eaglevision]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his third Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2023 National Draft

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Cal's latest rankings. Collard in the early 20's.

Still don’t think he goes that high although might be a target of Freo’s north compo pick. I really hope we stick to our guns and take a KPD if one slides (which they may well do given how many there are in the top 20) or take DeMattia/Hardeman. Interesting to see how much MEdwards has slid…

 

[eagles rule]

If Ratugolea is worth a first rounder, then Rotham would be in a similar ball park.

Perhaps , if marketed correctly..
It would be like selling ice to the Eskimo’s ..


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[Eastern Rangers]

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Which is where our second pick will be, like I've said the whole way through he's not going to make it to 40.

Hopefully Hardeman, DeMattia and Tholstrup are off the board here.

 

[mattyc75]

Wow did rotham just become worth a first rounder..

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[daddy_4_eyes]

Wow did rotham just become worth a first rounder..

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Tall defender with good kicking skills & midfield potential.

Some say he's the next Curtin.

 

[WestCoast05]

Id swap him for Brockman and the Hawks should be happy with that. Both fringe players with potential.

Thing is we can get Brockman on the cheap - if Rotham has the potential then it may as well be us that explores it...

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Thing is we can get Brockman on the cheap - if Rotham has the potential then it may as well be us that explores it...

We’ve kind of had seven years to do that, though.

 

[Convocation]

With Tim English's partner Rudi Ellis relocating to Victoria and likely to join the Melbourne Vixens, I think we can put the Tim English to West Coast in free agency to bed, and hopefully this means Jordan Sweet is more likely to join us as a capable ruckman for the next couple of years from next year.

 

[WestCoast05]

We’ve kind of had seven years to do that, though.

Yeah we did - but WE haven't.

We've been in a bizarre place since 2019 which maybe hasn't been conducive to getting the best out of some players.
Injuries aside, that seems to be changing this season..

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Tall defender with good kicking skills & midfield potential.

Some say he's the next Curtin.

Flexibility is one of Rotham's strengths.
Can play defence, forward or could even be deployed on the wing.
Still under contract, so a suitable trade is required.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

You'd think if North get priority access to Sanders it would be fait accompli that we will do the same for Collard and have it granted.

 

[CountryLad]

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his third Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2023 National Draft

www.afl.com.au

Cal's latest rankings. Collard in the early 20's.

These will start to change a fair bit over the coming months as Cal collects info.

Has Moir in the top 30 so Cleary not following him that closely.

Mitch Edwards has the slides on a bit. If he fell back to pick 35-38 would we grab a young ruck particularly if we fail to get one over the trade period like last year?

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Would be happy for Rotham if he was wanted elsewhere, because he’s walking the plank next year and that’s likely career over if he stays at WCE.

Good luck to him!

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Interesting to see Curtin down at 6 now. Guess clubs can see that there's no point talking him up too much if West Coast are going to stay and take Reid.

Collard looks like he might be rising enough to tip over the risk (he doesn't want to move/he won't play well interstate)/reward (he could be a star) barrier for interstate clubs sadly. Need him to seriously sell he doesn't want to leave WA and he hates Freo. Surely one of our major sponsors can offer his family nice paying jobs if he stays.

Mitch Edwards dropping makes me interested.

 

[Trav22]

Anyone else a fan of splitting 19 on draft night to try and secure both edwards and Collard?

Collard is a tough one to judge, can’t really see him sliding past pick 40

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Anyone seen/have views of George Stevens? I like the write up.

 

[Keys]

Zerk-Thatcher requesting a trade to Port Adelaide along with Ratugolea who has already done the same thing

Have to admit that Port have a good record of attracting players to their club for whatever reason

How they get trades done with both Essendon and Geelong when the only picks of value they have are 37 and 43 in this draft plus their future picks is going to be a fun watch

 

[CountryLad]

Will Patton is an interesting one was 193cm at the start of the year. Would be great if he grew a couple of cm this year but even if he hasn’t had a really solid carnival (all Australian) would be great value in the 30’s.

Taylor Goad sitting outside the top 30 along with Cleary(swans academy), Sanchez, Schoenmaker, Laul, Zakostelsky, Lorenz, Copper Simpson and Clay Hall could all be in the firing line for our 30’s picks.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Zerk-Thatcher requesting a trade to Port Adelaide along with Ratugolea who has already done the same thing

Have to admit that Port have a good record of attracting players to their club for whatever reason

How they get trades done with both Essendon and Geelong when the only picks of value they have are 37 and 43 in this draft plus their future picks is going to be a fun watch

Both are our of contract, both are pretty average. Geelong saying they want a first rounder is laughable.

Future second for Esava, future 3rd for Zerk Thatcher. Essendon replace Zerk with McKay for free. Geelong have De Konig, Kolo and Henry as backmen already. Can live without Esava.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If Port are going after Esava and Zerk Thatcher guess that means Lycett stays there and Grundy goes to Sydney?

 

[Deepthroat]

Got my calculator out again when looking at implications of Port v GWS this week.

Currently we could make an offer to GCS for following:

GCS Picks 28 & 32 (tied to GWS) - Total Points 1261
for
WCE Picks 35 (tied to Port), 38 & 54 (tied to Port) - Total Points 1207

No real reason for GCS to do the trade as it's a points loss.

But if GWS win we have an improved offer

GCS Picks 28 & 34 (tied to GWS) - Total Points 1219
for
WCE Picks 33 (tied to Port), 38 & 52 (tied to Port) - Total Points 1274

A 55 point gain for GCS.

Leave us with 1, 19, 28, 34, 57 & 74.

 

[CountryLad]

Anyone seen/have views of George Stevens? I like the write up.
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Like him a lot. Is a man among kids at 18s level and Cal is right he’s ready to play Afl. Just need to be able to cover his lack of pace which is the big question mark on him.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Interesting to see Curtin down at 6 now. Guess clubs can see that there's no point talking him up too much if West Coast are going to stay and take Reid.

Think he was at 6 last time too.