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Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 2
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If you're looking to confirm a bias, Sky News was the place to go. The chief medical officer has explicitly stated that the protests were not a major concern, two of the cases work for the same retail store and authorities don't believe they picked it up from the protests, two others (one of which tested negative after first testing positive) are also not thought to have picked it up from the protests. All were wearing masks. No idea about the new one.
But yes, that caused double digit growth across the state for a week
Who are these "authorities"?
The same ones that hid the Cedar Meats outbreak for 3 weeks?
That's more to do with the response when someone positive is found - cleaning needs to occur.
A primary school being closed for a couple days for cleaning is a price worth paying to give children their normal schedule of schooling.
There is little evidence of a young child actually passing it on to others though.
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Alright sheep. Explain Connor McKenna ? False reading
Please go and give yourself a basic understanding of viruses and how they work and stop embarrassing yourself.
It was tougher - but stupider.
The countries that have done the best out of Covid have been SMART not simply tough for a long time.
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Go for it. People who get together in there 1000s for stupidity in the middle of a pandemic is just stupid.
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Oh I see you're back on the THIS IS A PANDEMIC bandwagon.
I could have sworn the other week you were on the EVERYTHING SHOULD BE OPEN bandwagon.
Austria. New Zealand. All opened up SMARTLY after a relatively short shutdown. They didn't drag their heels for months and months like Victoria was doing.
Sorry, owen, but do you believe in the SCIENCE during a pandemic?
If yes, then what does the SCIENCE tell you about the risk of a mass gathering at a protest?
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I generally vote Liberal but i would love for this f*cktard to explain how other states are currently coronavirus free when they never closed their golf courses....
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Victoria dragged it's heels, but has also seen a steady growth in active cases in the past week. What does this tell you?
NZ also has a smaller population than Melbourne, spread over a much wider area, and came out of a much stronger lockdown.
What's your argument here?
And on what measure have they done better?
I see you're unfamiliar with maryjames posting throughout this period.
My argument is that when you DRAG your re-opening for political purposes, and don't allow MINIMAL risk activities and ones that are for the good of the nation (schooling) to recommence and then at the SAME TIME allow mass gathering protests, then people LOSE respect for what you are telling them and abandon your guidelines of social distancing.
I am.
But I'm more interested in you. Do you want to answer the question I posed to you about science? Or science not your thing currently?
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Does using CAPITALS somehow make your point more relevant?
Schools were open prior to the protests were they not?
Do you think perhaps looking at the overseas experience there was some evidence to suggest that trying to physically stop the protesters using police might not have ended well?
See, people must understand there are TWO aspects at play here:
1) People taking into account the risk to THEMSELVES.
2) People taking into account the risk to OTHERS.
With a rapid spread back in March, unknown virus, people took precautions not only for others but themselves too.
The Government relied on the goodwill of the public, and used their messaging to emphasise the risk to the elderly and the steps we all had to play to ensure their safety.
BUT when you trash that goodwill by allowing mass protests to occur while keeping young people locked up, then good luck now trying to turn around and tell young people to lock themselves back up again when months of evidence has shown the effects on younger people to be marginal in comparison.
1) People taking into account the risk to THEMSELVES.
2) People taking into account the risk to OTHERS.
With a rapid spread back in March, unknown virus, people took precautions not only for others but themselves too.
The Government relied on the goodwill of the public, and used their messaging to emphasise the risk to the elderly and the steps we all had to play to ensure their safety.
BUT when you trash that goodwill by allowing mass protests to occur while keeping young people locked up, then good luck now trying to turn around and tell young people to lock themselves back up again when months of evidence has shown the effects on younger people to be marginal in comparison.
Why would it not have ended well?
Was this a consideration when WA jailed a man for seeing his girlfriend from quarantine?
Was it a consideration for Victoria oppressively fining a teenager on a driving lesson?
Can you tell me exactly what you believe the largely Indigenous crowd at the BLM protest would have done such that things would not have ended well?
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here other than OUTRAGE?
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Posters are aware that almost every state had a Black Lives Matter rally. It's not the cause of the uptick and trying to pin it on that has people genuinely questioning your motives.
Actually, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about why a largely Indigenous crowd would have reacted differently to Covid enforcement that was obviously against the science? Why are you saying they would have reacted differently to a non-Indigenous crowd?
Pffftt, a carbon copy of Peter van Onselen's doofus tweets this morning.
Coronavirus doesn't MAGICALLY pop out just because a BLM rally occurs, lol. BUT if there is even one or two cases amongst a mass gathering crowd like that, then it has the potential to exponentially grow and get away from you.
Were bullets and teargas used on the teenager learner driver or man seeing his girlfriend?
In fact, I question the motives of someone that seeks to defend a mass gathering protest occurring during a pandemic, lol.
When your ideology blinds you to the SCIENCE, then that is super concerning.
owen87, do you want to answer my question on the science please?
Well, if far-right can be used for practically every conservative, then I'm pretty sure far-left can be used to refer to people who ignore science during a pandemic.
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