Health Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 2

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How did we drag out heels for months? We didn't open up for Mother's day weekend, we started opening up after, a few days is not months.
We've had two days without new cases since this started, of course we are going to go slower than places like the NT that don't have any active cases and haven't for a long time.
Are you suggesting that it should be open slather because that doesn't makes sense with your stance on protests. Also neither does your stance on the protests if you think we've opened up too slowly in Victoria

Slowly but stupidly.

School openings were very LOW risk.

Mass protests were very HIGH risk.

Every state allowed the protests. All of them. The protests are not the reason we are having an outbreak now, they are the excuse some use to justify shitty behaviour at best

Oh Jesus. How can people not understand this.

Simply having a protest does not mean coronavirus simply magically combusts into existence afterwards.
 

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NSW Appeal Court does not rule on Victorian laws.

It's not a state law though:

 
I'm pretty sure I've posed two very clear questions to owen87 about SCIENCE.
What is this SCIENCE you speak of
Slowly but stupidly.

School openings were very LOW risk.

Mass protests were very HIGH risk.



Oh Jesus. How can people not understand this.

Simply having a protest does not mean coronavirus simply magically combusts into existence afterwards.
AH yes I see the issue now, it was Andrews fault that protests are legal in Australia and that people decided to hold protests in every state and territory because he opened Schools to slowly

Could you explain the SCIENCE behind magically combusting viruses?

NSW Appeal Court does not rule on Victorian laws.
No it doesn't. Victorian Laws also stated that protests were legal. Same as SA, WA, TAS, NT, ACT and QLD who also didn't try and get the protests declared illegal.

Considering protesting is a human right, it's a pretty hard thing to get legally shut down, and that wouldn't have stopped the protests anyway, they still would have happened, just more violently most likely.

Amazing how all of that is Dan's fault though and somehow related to both SCIENCE and magic and being SLOW
 
Reminds me of a new variation on the chicken and the egg pun.

What came first, the toilet paper, the eggs, or the hand sanitiser?
But the even bigger dumbarse's than Andrews are the people flooding the stores panic buying, did they not realise last time they could still pop down to the shops to get grocery's.
 

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No It's not Dan's fault that people are dumb ******* idiots, if he doesn't say anything he's too soft and not doing enough to stop people breaking the rules.


Also whats with the all the random capitalization of words and quotes that people are using ffs
Yeah i addressed that above but people who are already high on fear in general react and by hearing " i'll lock you all up again " they shit themselves.

He didn't need to say that though, that was just stupid. He really does need to stop with the threats and just address the situation at hand.
 
So a Federal law has no bearing on Victoria now? Are we a separate country? What makes you think the protests would be successfully deemed illegal here when they weren't done so in NSW, and no other State Government even attempted to challenge it?

Just as likely the Vic Supreme Court would have found as the NSW Supreme Court did.

You can't just extrapolate one decision and say ergo it applies to all. lol.

But anyways, now I get ya. You're not about the science during a pandemic. You're about the NSW Court of Appeal. lol.
 
Isnt it more simply put that all the press about the BLM protests up to the time they occurred just resulted in people saying '**** this, if they are allowed to protest, i will go do what i want' and hence people did, and because there was already community spread in Vic (well, Melbourne), it just spread more from people gathering all over the place?
and the same exact thing happened in other states with their protests, but the difference is there was no widespread community spread in other cities at that point, and hence there is no escalation of cases now?
 
Yeah i addressed that above but people who are already high on fear in general react and by hearing " i'll lock you all up again " they sh*t themselves.

He didn't need to say that though, that was just stupid. He really does need to stop with the threats and just address the situation at hand.
Trump said when he had 16 cases that it would all go away by itself and we saw how that turned out
 
Just as likely the Vic Supreme Court would have found as the NSW Supreme Court did.

You can't just extrapolate one decision and say ergo it applies to all. lol.

But anyways, now I get ya. You're not about the science during a pandemic. You're about the NSW Court of Appeal. lol.

There's certainly more evidence to support the likelihood that protests in VIC would be deemed legal, as were those in NSW, and the lack of any other State Government's challenging them suggests they all thought the likelihood of that avenue succeeding would be low.

But of course, you just want OUTRAGE, not an actual discussion.
 
There's certainly more evidence to support the likelihood that protests in VIC would be deemed legal, as were those in NSW, and the lack of any other State Government's challenging them suggests they all thought the likelihood of that avenue succeeding would be low.

But of course, you just want OUTRAGE, not an actual discussion.

No, I want SCIENCE.
 
great news .....besides corona virus mortality rates being downgraded all the time to around flu levels, now it appears that having had a common cold can give you immunity - who would have thought .... besides of course many immunologists who were denied a platform and even kicked off places like twitter and facebook and the lack of MSM reporting.

surely this will make everyone happy .....


Now, two studies reveal infected people harbor T cells that target the virus—and may help them recover. Both studies also found some people never infected with SARS-CoV-2 have these cellular defenses, most likely because they were previously infected with other coronaviruses.

The researchers think these cells were likely triggered by past infection with one of the four human coronaviruses that cause colds; proteins in these viruses resemble those of SARS-CoV-2.

The results suggest “one reason that a large chunk of the population may be able to deal with the virus is that we may have some small residual immunity from our exposure to common cold viruses,” says viral immunologist Steven Varga of the University of Iowa.
 
Pffftt, a carbon copy of Peter van Onselen's doofus tweets this morning.

Coronavirus doesn't MAGICALLY pop out just because a BLM rally occurs, lol. BUT if there is even one or two cases amongst a mass gathering crowd like that, then it has the potential to exponentially grow and get away from you.
I'm not on Twitter, so don't care what others write.

But coronavirus doesn't also magically sweep through one state rally, while respecting the borders of nearby states. Did it have the potential to cause a problem? Sure, though the fact it was outdoors, most wore masks and most tried to distance meant the risk was reduced. Did it cause a problem? No, despite your attempts to paint it as having done so.
 
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