Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) 2020
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Does this university have two campuses on the Southside in close proximity to each other?
If not, then this applies to more than one university.
As I mentioned last week, my wife’s work (said university) introduced this last week.
Further to this Southern Cross University has closed a couple of its NSW and QLD campuses today.
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Talk to your work and GP.
Get a medical certificate if you’re staying home.
My work place is saying we have to use annual leave if we have to self isolate due to a possible close contact with a confirmed case.
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I just don’t understand why the government doesnt make us go into lockdown now. Why wait until it is widespread and out of control before going into lockdown. Given the inevitability of it I would have thought the earlier the better. I recon Italy would like their time over again and would have gone into lockdown much much earlier.
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Because they're worried about the backlash - partly from the public and partly from their media supporters.
It's the same reason they dragged their feet about the bushfires and the same reason they're dragging their feet about avoiding a recession.
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I think it's all universities actually...
No country has had the guts to do it.
The cover up in China has been monumental once all the facts come out.
So we have Andrews and Morrison up there expressing grave concerns as to what's going to happen this winter and Andrews is going to have a GP and Morrison has only banned flights from Italy from tonight.
These politicians are criminally negligent . But they're no different from any anywhere.
No wonder overall conditions for most people around the world are deteriorating.
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Because we’d have stop all incoming international travel. Or do what Israel has just instituted, all international arrivals are put in to mandatory 14 day quarantine.
Vietnam has been doing this with all arrivals from Korea for a couple of weeks now. They’re bused to makeshift quarantine facilities, and that’s home for two weeks.
We’re just not able to bring this in logistically. It wouldn’t be a 14 day lockdown.
You would be looking at months. Because as long as it exists outside of Australia, you risk it coming back in.
Then there’s the question of how wide spread spread they make the lockdown. What services do we keep running. What effect this has on people with health issues.
What about low income earners who are renting. How do they pay rent if they have no income coming in, and no savings.
What about food? How do households stay supplied? Let alone retirement villages, etc.
You would have to expand supply networks, both for large urban cities, as well as regional towns. Do we have vehicles and the workers for this.
In a more authoritarian society, this might be possible. Unlikely in Australia, unless all citizens bought in to the “greater good” concept.
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People don’t care about things that don’t affect them, and can understand reasonable arguments why certain events should be canceled, and certain activities stopped.
I have friends who aren’t sporting people at all. They completely agree with sports being played in empty stadiums, and winter sports being canceled altogether, until a vaccine is introduced on the same scale as the flu vaccine.
They don’t see a problem with no sport for 6 months.
Because it’s for the greater good, and they aren’t invested in it.
You can’t agree that classical concerts, the ballet, food festivals, etc are ok to cancel, but not the football.
I have friends who aren’t sporting people at all. They completely agree with sports being played in empty stadiums, and winter sports being canceled altogether, until a vaccine is introduced on the same scale as the flu vaccine.
They don’t see a problem with no sport for 6 months.
Because it’s for the greater good, and they aren’t invested in it.
You can’t agree that classical concerts, the ballet, food festivals, etc are ok to cancel, but not the football.
It's the issue in our Western society.
Even when people start dying a good majority wouldn't want any measures instigated that affected them ,and the nature of humanity is such that until something happens to you you don't think that it ever will.
Which is why the politicians are preaching armageddon but not really doing anything . Doing hard stuff loses you a lot of support. And we've seen how fickle the people are now with their support this last decade.
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To be honest our politicians did nothing during the bushfires when acting would have won them universal support, so I think they might just not care about doing stuff. I suspect they just think pr and spin are an effective substitute and all this will be forgotten come next election. Sadly I think they might be right
I actually think that there was a confusion between State and Federal responsibilities . There's been a lot done in the aftermath and when the fires were raging there wasn't really a lot more that could've been done because they never anticipated the scale of it. They couldn't pluck extra firefighters out of thin air . They handled it poorly but I can sort of see how that happened. I don't think it was the will to not do anything more just bureacratic incompetence and lack of awareness.
But naturally acting on bushfires would've been a votewinner and acting on CV at this juncture isn't
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Good to get a different view and I agree with many of your points but I think with good leadership and policies all good be navigated through. In particular, I’m not adverse to closing our borders for many months. Any Australians who want to return go into quarantine for 14 days. We are losing our natural advantage of being an island nation. Short sighted to worry about international tourism for few months compared with losing international AND domestic tourism as well as normal household expenditure for many more months. We travel every school holidays - nothing booked for April and won’t be booking anything.
I think with strong leadership and our ability to see the future through the likes of Italy I think people would pull together for the greater good (but I am probably naive).
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A few of the big multi-national engineering firms have as well. International travel was cut about two weeks back and domestic was halted last week.
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Disagree there, as there were groups trying to get a meeting with the PM since May last year about the upcoming fire season, and their concerns that this season was going to be very, very bad.
I understand how this looks and has been played out in the public arena but firstly fire chiefs have been trying to meet with governments prior to each bushfire season for 25 years if you look at the historical evidence to get more money and there have actually been similar pleas. There is a process that All Governments around the world go through to deal with this and on this occasion here and in California they've fallen short . It wouldn't have made any difference who was in Government as to the outcome in my view.
But you know ,everyone's seen that letter 500 times and on the face of it its damning and it's pointless to try and convince anyone otherwise. But if you knew how many similar letters go to Governments over this and a plethora of other what might appear to be urgent issues you'd understand that it's not as easy as it looks on paper.
Have a trip planned to Vietnam in late April/Early May. At this stage still going. Can’t really worry or make final decision until closer to the time. I think the issue by then will be greater here than over there and they may put travel restrictions on Australians. Notice the women’s soccer team are playing there tonight. They have been taking extreme measures for awhile, Eg.schools closed for last 4 weeks.
Also booked trip to Brisbane for Qclash 23 May. That maybe more doubtful
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i have an Italian sister in law and a few years ago we went and stayed with her family in Florence. Best holiday ever.
Anyway, what really stood out was that everyone was smoking. We’d be with the family and leave and the smell of smoke clung to our clothes and hair. Ahh the memories it triggered of nights out in the 80s. We asked and the family said smoking was a national pastime and Italians don’t believe all that rubbish about lung problems.
Gotta wonder if that is contributing to their high rate of problems atm.
Anyway, what really stood out was that everyone was smoking. We’d be with the family and leave and the smell of smoke clung to our clothes and hair. Ahh the memories it triggered of nights out in the 80s. We asked and the family said smoking was a national pastime and Italians don’t believe all that rubbish about lung problems.
Gotta wonder if that is contributing to their high rate of problems atm.
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Always amazing to realise how far ahead of the curve Australia is with smoking. Not until you go overseas do you remember how much its changed here.
But yes countries with higher smoking probably will have more issues right now
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Was the same in France a few years ago.
Also visited a Paris hospital. Talk about sterile. And had the obligatory gypsy family living in the emergency driveway.
I work in IT at UQ which has just had its second confirmed case. We are still turning up for work as usual but it seems inevitable that we'll all be working from home within a few weeks, maybe days.
My wife also works here in a more public-facing role and was told a few days ago that the projections were that infections would peak in Australia around May. So this has a long way to play out yet.
My wife also works here in a more public-facing role and was told a few days ago that the projections were that infections would peak in Australia around May. So this has a long way to play out yet.
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My wife has told me, that they’ll close her university when they have their first case.
My wife is now working solely in research, which she can do from home.
