Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) 2020

[BangyBangy]

Only 5 cases in QLD today.

Everywhere is looking so good at the moment. Once we boost our ICU capacity as much as possible, increase our testing as much as possible and ensure our hospitals are well stocked with PPE, it's time to start winding back a few restrictions I think.

Think we're in a position to manage whatever comes next now. We're not going to be in a situation where it all explodes before we've had time to prepare.

Yeah, I think in 4 weeks there is a pretty high chance restrictions will start to be wound back. How that looks exactly is anyone's guess. Places like gyms, bars, restaurants, cinemas etc, forget it. I'm guessing they'll be last on the list along with international travel & crowds allowed at sporting events, and all of those things may not be possible until a vaccine is available.

Either by good luck or good management it appears we've found ourselves in the position where our (expanded) ICU capabilities won't be found wanting which seems to have caused the high mortality rates we've seen elsewhere. Such a stark contrast to how it has hit here vs overseas. A lot of factors contributing I guess.

 

[jackess]

Have their been many cases transferred at schools to warrant all the noise about keeping schools open being stupid?

On the rare occasion I leave the house often see groups of school aged congregating.

 

[Saucery]

Species deceases

I hope that when all the finger pointing and death is over we start to acknowledge the real reasons our world is dying.

Human impact on wildlife to blame for spread of viruses, says study

Increased contact with animals likely cause of outbreaks such as Covid-19, say experts, as conservationists call for global ban on wildlife markets

www.theguardian.com

What we've learned from four other pandemics throughout history

This isn't the first global pandemic, and it won't be the last. But we can learn from each one.

www.sbs.com.au

One Health

www.who.int

 

[Saucery]

Have their been many cases transferred at schools to warrant all the noise about keeping schools open being stupid?

On the rare occasion I leave the house often see groups of school aged congregating.

"In Singapore, we want life to go on as normal," Fisher wrote last month, before the latest spike in cases. "We want businesses, churches, restaurants and schools to stay open. This is what success looks like.”

That approach stood in stark contrast to Hong Kong: another Asian self-governed city with a similar size population. In Hong Kong, public schools have been closed since February ….. Hong Kong has been much more successful in dealing with a second wave.

Singapore only closed schools and some workplaces this month after the most recent spike in cases.

Singapore had a model coronavirus response, then cases spiked. What happened?

Less than a month ago, Singapore was being hailed as one of the countries that had got its coronavirus response right.

edition.cnn.com

This is probably the best comparison I can find but there are so many factors that it's always oranges and apples. But with an average age of 42 among Australian teachers (with 30% aged 50 or above) and little to no PPE or even hand wash I fear this will not end well.



From NSW health



There is a second positive case at TAFE Ultimo that is unrelated to the first case. Contact tracing is underway. Parts of the TAFE remain open.

A student at Bankstown Senior College has tested positive for COVID-19. Investigations are ongoing to trace close contacts.

At the Rose of Sharon childcare centre in Blacktown there are now 7 confirmed cases in staff, 6 confirmed cases in children, and 12 secondary cases (11 household contacts and 1 friend). The centre is closed.

St Mary’s Senior High School has one confirmed case, a student. The school is closed and investigations are ongoing.

Gloucester Primary School has one confirmed case in a staff member. The school remains open as it has been over two weeks since the case’s last attendance. The school has been contacting staff and students regularly about their health with no evidence of people being unwell.

Woodport Early Learning Centre has one confirmed case in a child. Investigations are ongoing.

St Michaels Catholic Primary School Belfield has one confirmed case, a student. The school is closed and investigations are ongoing.

Wiley Park Girls High School has one confirmed case, a teacher. The school reopened today following investigations.

Kambala has one confirmed case, a teacher. The school is closed and Investigations are ongoing.

News - COVID-19 (Coronavirus) statistics

As at 8pm, Friday, 3 April 2020, an additional 104 cases of COVID-19 have been diagnosed, since 8pm 2 April, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in NSW to 2,493.

www.health.nsw.gov.au

 

[jackess]

"In Singapore, we want life to go on as normal," Fisher wrote last month, before the latest spike in cases. "We want businesses, churches, restaurants and schools to stay open. This is what success looks like.”

That approach stood in stark contrast to Hong Kong: another Asian self-governed city with a similar size population. In Hong Kong, public schools have been closed since February ….. Hong Kong has been much more successful in dealing with a second wave.

Singapore only closed schools and some workplaces this month after the most recent spike in cases.

Singapore had a model coronavirus response, then cases spiked. What happened?

Less than a month ago, Singapore was being hailed as one of the countries that had got its coronavirus response right.

edition.cnn.com

This is probably the best comparison I can find but there are so many factors that it's always oranges and apples. But with an average age of 42 among Australian teachers (with 30% aged 50 or above) and little to no PPE or even hand wash I fear this will not end well.



From NSW health



There is a second positive case at TAFE Ultimo that is unrelated to the first case. Contact tracing is underway. Parts of the TAFE remain open.

A student at Bankstown Senior College has tested positive for COVID-19. Investigations are ongoing to trace close contacts.

At the Rose of Sharon childcare centre in Blacktown there are now 7 confirmed cases in staff, 6 confirmed cases in children, and 12 secondary cases (11 household contacts and 1 friend). The centre is closed.

St Mary’s Senior High School has one confirmed case, a student. The school is closed and investigations are ongoing.

Gloucester Primary School has one confirmed case in a staff member. The school remains open as it has been over two weeks since the case’s last attendance. The school has been contacting staff and students regularly about their health with no evidence of people being unwell.

Woodport Early Learning Centre has one confirmed case in a child. Investigations are ongoing.

St Michaels Catholic Primary School Belfield has one confirmed case, a student. The school is closed and investigations are ongoing.

Wiley Park Girls High School has one confirmed case, a teacher. The school reopened today following investigations.

Kambala has one confirmed case, a teacher. The school is closed and Investigations are ongoing.

News - COVID-19 (Coronavirus) statistics

As at 8pm, Friday, 3 April 2020, an additional 104 cases of COVID-19 have been diagnosed, since 8pm 2 April, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in NSW to 2,493.

www.health.nsw.gov.au

So lots of schools with only one case would indicate it isn’t spreading and That the schools are handling it quite well

 

[briztoon]

So lots of schools with only one case would indicate it isn’t spreading and That the schools are handling it quite well

Really depends if the student or
teacher attended school while contagious.

Once you take the test, you are supposed to go straight home and self isolate until you find out the result.

So if students/parents and teachers acted early enough and saw their doctor or virus clinic at the onset of symptoms, or stayed home until their appointment, there might have been limited chance for the virus to spread.

It is the childcare centre that stands out to me. A situation where a young child might not be able to communicate properly that they’re unwell, and the virus spreads, before it’s caught.

 

[Saucery]

So lots of schools with only one case would indicate it isn’t spreading and That the schools are handling it quite well

True in NSW so far, but as we have seen in northwest Tas clusters can spread at alarming rates; and once again.

"But with an average age of 42 among Australian teachers (with 30% aged 50 or above) and little to no PPE or even hand wash I fear this will not end well."

If you read the data from that site then 30 - 60 (which is most of the teaching bell curve) represents 43% of all outstanding cases, if you add in school age children its more like 48%. Most will be children of front line medical staff who have the highest risk of contracting CV19, yet use no PPE at home.

"School staff know that they are taking a risk by reporting to work against advice given to the rest of the population to stay at home.

Many will be caring for the children of front line workers, which the latest scientific advice suggests may spread coronavirus.

It is only right that this is a choice informed by hard evidence regarding the degree of risk involved.

We need a step change in the detail of advice given to schools now.

Our focus will be to reiterate the need for schools to be given clear guidance on how to keep pupils and staff safe.

It is absolutely vital that we have sight of the expert medical evidence on safe levels of attendance and density, and are provided with practical advice on the protective steps we should be taking in schools.

From masks or other PPE, to distancing children from each other, to sufficient supplies of soap and hand sanitiser, schools urgently need answers to their questions about effective safety measures."

NAHT (National Association of Head Teachers UK) general secretary Paul Whiteman

Head's virus death and lockdown hit schools like 'bombshell'

Head teachers in England seek clearer safety advice after virus death and lockdown announcement.

www.bbc.com

UK minister says no decision on reopening schools has been taken

British education minister Gavin Williamson said on Sunday that no decision had been taken on when to reopen schools, as the coronavirus lockdown enters a fourth week.

www.reuters.com

 

[Saucery]

Tracking the spread of the novel coronavirus

Reuters maps all places where COVID-19 cases have been confirmed.

graphics.reuters.com

 

[dlanod]

"In Singapore, we want life to go on as normal," Fisher wrote last month, before the latest spike in cases. "We want businesses, churches, restaurants and schools to stay open. This is what success looks like.”

That approach stood in stark contrast to Hong Kong: another Asian self-governed city with a similar size population. In Hong Kong, public schools have been closed since February ….. Hong Kong has been much more successful in dealing with a second wave.

Singapore only closed schools and some workplaces this month after the most recent spike in cases.

Singapore had a model coronavirus response, then cases spiked. What happened?

Less than a month ago, Singapore was being hailed as one of the countries that had got its coronavirus response right.

edition.cnn.com

This is probably the best comparison I can find but there are so many factors that it's always oranges and apples. But with an average age of 42 among Australian teachers (with 30% aged 50 or above) and little to no PPE or even hand wash I fear this will not end well.



From NSW health



There is a second positive case at TAFE Ultimo that is unrelated to the first case. Contact tracing is underway. Parts of the TAFE remain open.

A student at Bankstown Senior College has tested positive for COVID-19. Investigations are ongoing to trace close contacts.

At the Rose of Sharon childcare centre in Blacktown there are now 7 confirmed cases in staff, 6 confirmed cases in children, and 12 secondary cases (11 household contacts and 1 friend). The centre is closed.

St Mary’s Senior High School has one confirmed case, a student. The school is closed and investigations are ongoing.

Gloucester Primary School has one confirmed case in a staff member. The school remains open as it has been over two weeks since the case’s last attendance. The school has been contacting staff and students regularly about their health with no evidence of people being unwell.

Woodport Early Learning Centre has one confirmed case in a child. Investigations are ongoing.

St Michaels Catholic Primary School Belfield has one confirmed case, a student. The school is closed and investigations are ongoing.

Wiley Park Girls High School has one confirmed case, a teacher. The school reopened today following investigations.

Kambala has one confirmed case, a teacher. The school is closed and Investigations are ongoing.

News - COVID-19 (Coronavirus) statistics

As at 8pm, Friday, 3 April 2020, an additional 104 cases of COVID-19 have been diagnosed, since 8pm 2 April, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in NSW to 2,493.

www.health.nsw.gov.au

Singapore's spike in cases have predominantly come from their migrant worker dorms which are closer to prisons than normal accommodation - perfect conditions for viral spread since there's no practical way to isolate people.

It's next to impossible to post a counter-factual for keeping schools open because very few countries have done so.

 

[luthor]

More infantile self serving nonsense from the "Leader" of the free world

More than 41,000 people have died in the US. Why is there talk of easing restrictions?

The US has by far the world's largest number of confirmed coronavirus cases, with more than 720,000 infections and 41,000 deaths.

www.abc.net.au

Mr Trump appeared to encourage protesters with a series of Twitter posts calling for them to "liberate" Michigan, Minnesota and Virginia, all run by Democratic governors.

 

[jackess]

More infantile self serving nonsense from the "Leader" of the free world

More than 41,000 people have died in the US. Why is there talk of easing restrictions?

The US has by far the world's largest number of confirmed coronavirus cases, with more than 720,000 infections and 41,000 deaths.

www.abc.net.au

Mr Trump appeared to encourage protesters with a series of Twitter posts calling for them to "liberate" Michigan, Minnesota and Virginia, all run by Democratic governors.

Americans are dumb enough to re-elect him too

 

[luthor]

Americans are dumb enough to re-elect him too

If they do that then they deserve each other.

 

[luthor]

I love some of the replies

 

[SizeMatters]

Closing schools was critical imo. Just look at any other diseases that spreads throughout them. Little Johnny turns up to school with covid19 showing no symptoms and infects half his class. They bring it home...

 

[Saucery]

Singapore's spike in cases have predominantly come from their migrant worker dorms which are closer to prisons than normal accommodation - perfect conditions for viral spread since there's no practical way to isolate people.

It's next to impossible to post a counter-factual for keeping schools open because very few countries have done so.

So true, as I said

"This is probably the best comparison I can find but there are so many factors that it's always oranges and apples."

 

[luthor]

Well, this IS encouraging.

New cases for today

CASES
Total Confirmed Cases

STATE	CASES	DEL	NET	%
New South Wales	2,963	▲	6	0.2%
Victoria	1,329	▲	1	0.1%
Queensland	1,019	⬤	0	0.0%
Western Australia	545	⬤	0	0.0%
South Australia	435	⬤	0	0.0%
Tasmania	195		-	-
ACT	104	▲	1	1.0%
Northern Territory	28	⬤	0	0.0%
Australia	6,618	▲	8	0.1%

Donuts for Qld, SA, WA and NT and just the one each for for Vic and ACT

TAS still to report, They seem to drag the chain every day for some reason

Let's hope the new ones for Tasmania are negligible. That outbreak in the NorthWest is worrying.

 

[Dalions]

Well, this IS encouraging.

New cases for today

CASES
Total Confirmed Cases

STATE	CASES	DEL	NET	%
New South Wales	2,963	▲	6	0.2%
Victoria	1,329	▲	1	0.1%
Queensland	1,019	⬤	0	0.0%
Western Australia	545	⬤	0	0.0%
South Australia	435	⬤	0	0.0%
Tasmania	195		-	-
ACT	104	▲	1	1.0%
Northern Territory	28	⬤	0	0.0%
Australia	6,618	▲	8	0.1%

Donuts for Qld, SA, WA and NT and just the one each for for Vic and ACT

TAS still to report, They seem to drag the chain every day for some reason

Let's hope the new ones for Tasmania are negligible. That outbreak in the NorthWest is worrying.

As at 3pm today there was 197 total cases in Tassie.
2 more than your numbers listed above.

 

[Saucery]

As at 3pm today there was 197 total cases in Tassie.
2 more than your numbers listed above.

Yes there was initially a fault in the count and it was revised down.

Coronavirus tally in Tasmania reaches 200, more cases in northwest hotspot

Another five coronavirus cases in Tasmania's troubled northwest take the tally to 200, as the Health Minister urges people to remain vigilant.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Saucery]

A good discussion on the merits of closing schools, although it's near a month old.

'More harm than good': the case for and against closing schools during the coronavirus pandemic | Peter Collignon and Marylouise LcLaws

Two epidemiologists discuss why schools in Australia are not yet being closed – and if it’s even needed

www.theguardian.com

 

[BangyBangy]

Closing schools was critical imo. Just look at any other diseases that spreads throughout them. Little Johnny turns up to school with covid19 showing no symptoms and infects half his class. They bring it home...

Yep, speaking of which, what on Earth was that family in Beaumaris (and all the parents of the attendees) thinking holding that birthday party. Should be given double fines for being silly enough to put signs & balloons up outside too lol. At least try to be somewhat clandestine about not giving a flying rats arse about everyone else in the community & the possible outcome of your actions.

 

[Section 5]

This figure @ today also encouraging

Cases in ICU

STATE	ICU	DEL	NET	ICU BEDS
New South Wales	22	▲	1	874
Victoria	11	▲	1	476
Queensland	7	▼	-1	413
Western Australia	6	⬤	0	162
South Australia	2	▲	1	188
Tasmania	2	⬤	0	50
ACT	0	⬤	0	44
Northern Territory	0	⬤	0	22
Australia	50	▲	2	2229

 

[luthor]

This figure @ today also encouraging

Cases in ICU

Australia

50

▲

2

2229

Yep

Unless the wheels really fall off in a hurry, there is going to be a hell of a lot of spare capacity with those ICU beds.

Am I right in thinking there are a further 4000 beds on order?

 

[luthor]

Yep, speaking of which, what on Earth was that family in Beaumaris (and all the parents of the attendees) thinking holding that birthday party. Should be given double fines for being silly enough to put signs & balloons up outside too lol. At least try to be somewhat clandestine about not giving a flying rats arse about everyone else in the community & the possible outcome of your actions.

Absolute fools.

What rock were they all living under?

 

[trikster]

I love some of the replies

Shaun Micallef's is the best though

 

[luthor]

Shaun Micallef's is the best though

Hardly surprising that Trump is exploiting the Second Amendment for political gain.

The NRA (America) donates bulk $ to the Republicans and is an avid supporter of Trump.