Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. (Thread part 1 - cont in part 2, link in thread)

[Chief]

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

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[YippeeYiYeo]

Lol a person is infectious for 2 to 3 weeks for the flu. Good luck taking 2 weeks off work every time you are sick.

so you turn up to the work with the flu, so you can use your sick leave for taking occasional days off whenever you cant be bothered going in? You must be popular amongst your colleagues...

 

[threesixpio]

Why do people get a perverse pleasure of seeing Baby Boomers suffer?

I have a teeny bit of it myself I’ll confess but X’ers are just as blameworthy for all the shit we are in (and I’m an x’er) for spending their whole life being cynical about boomers and doing **** all about anything because we are so jaded by the 60s generation turning into pricks. At least the Boomers got out there and did something even if they turned their back on it all whilst getting free tertiary education, cheaper housing, negative gearing and....

 

[Brutalitops]

Why do people get a perverse pleasure of seeing Baby Boomers suffer?

I don't want to see them suffer. I'm just looking at silver linings. Might even bring the retirement age down again

 

[threesixpio]

I don't want to see them suffer. I'm just looking at silver linings. Might even bring the retirement age down again

C’mon mate - hating old people is not a reason to criticise the reaction of others to the death rates of that group. Go watch Logan’s Run and get your jollies that way

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Regardless whether you may feel it’s all been overblown, fact is one of the major soccer leagues in the world postpones half their matches two weeks in row, they may also postpone World Cup qualifiers, the Swiss will play on with no crowds, the Louvre is now shut and the Olympics may be called off...but no chance an AFL game will be postponed? Hopefully it doesn’t happen but there’s a decent chance it might.

Really don't know why they have postponed stuff or closed stuff, unless your going to panic and close down everything there is no real point in closing down or postponing anything because people continue to walk the streets, go to work, attend cinemas etc.

 

[threesixpio]

Really don't know why they have postponed stuff or closed stuff, unless your going to panic and close down everything there is no real point in closing down or postponing anything because people continue to walk the streets, go to work, attend cinemas etc.

Oldies need to go into lockdown. Simples. That’s what I’m telling my (stubborn) relatives anyway

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

Would love to hear the opinions of anyone who works in hospitals in the major cities around australia. Where i work there is already recommendations for certain staff to stop wearing mask in operating theatres and only the staff scrubbed in (wearing sterile gowns/gloves and standing near the table) are to wear masks now.

Theres also a bit of talk of a contingency plan that 1 hospital will become the COVID19 hospital should an outbreak occur. This would mean transferring all patients out of that hospital, expanding the ICU ward to cater for 5x the normal amount of patients, and completely turning it into a quarantined site. The transfer of hundreds of patients out of that hospital would put a massive burden on every other hospital and im guessing most elective surgery will be postponed or cancelled.

So its not just the baby boomers who will be affected if the outbreak occurs. Not a good time to be pregnant, injure yourself, have an appendix or gall bladder play up. Any of you guys need regular meds? Just getting a prescription from your GP could be a nightmare with how much traffic will go through the GP's doors. And can you imagine walking into an overcrowded GP lobby/waiting area with everyone wearing facemasks and coughing? The whole health system will be overwhelmed if shit kicks off here.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Only positive to come form this could be that Moomba is also cancelled (is what I’m hearing)

The old girl's a shadow of her former self. Is it bad that I don't know who Nazeem Hussain and Julia Morris are?

 

[threesixpio]

The old girl's a shadow of her former self. Is it bad that I don't know who Nazeem Hussain and Julia Morris are?

Headline: Bird Man gets Bird Flu

Ah drat wring virus

 

[HardcoreGeelongFan]

Don't forget to travel everywhere and spread the virus everyone

 

[FRUMPY]

We can just blame a loss on coronavirus

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Oldies need to go into lockdown. Simples. That’s what I’m telling my (stubborn) relatives anyway

Yep, time to close down the world and stay indoors and never interact with any other person, everyone quick panic there is an old illness that has been given a new fancy name, 2019-nCoV, pretty sure this use to be called good old fashioned pneumonia which lo and behold can and does kill elderly people, oh look 2019-nCov which is a new form of pneumonia is killing elderly people.

On December 31 last year, China alerted WHO to several cases of unusual pneumonia in Wuhan

Well i'll be god damned, the common cold is part of the coronavirus family, looks like i had coronavirus last year and i'm still here.

On January 7, officials announced they had identified a new virus, according to the WHO. The novel virus was named 2019-nCoV and was identified as belonging to the coronavirus family, which includes SARS and the common cold.

 

[Obeanie1]

Really don't know why they have postponed stuff or closed stuff, unless your going to panic and close down everything there is no real point in closing down or postponing anything because people continue to walk the streets, go to work, attend cinemas etc.

I'd suggest the govt doesn't want to overwhelm the hospital system. So slowing it down creates time.

People in China are dying not of just controvirus but because the health system is overwhelmed.

Bed shortages, doctors and medicine shortages not to mention not wanting to go to hospital because that's where all the sick people are.

 

[D-N-R]

Yep, time to close down the world and stay indoors and never interact with any other person, everyone quick panic there is an old illness that has been given a new fancy name, 2019-nCoV, pretty sure this use to be called good old fashioned pneumonia which lo and behold can and does kill elderly people, oh look 2019-nCov which is a new form of pneumonia is killing elderly people.

On December 31 last year, China alerted WHO to several cases of unusual pneumonia in Wuhan

Well i'll be god damned, the common cold is part of the coronavirus family, looks like i had coronavirus last year and i'm still here.

On January 7, officials announced they had identified a new virus, according to the WHO. The novel virus was named 2019-nCoV and was identified as belonging to the coronavirus family, which includes SARS and the common cold.

20 times more deadly than regular flu. Millions of people get the flu each year. If 10,000,000 people in Australia get Covid19, then some 200,000 will die. These will also be clogging our hospitals and overwhelming our health system.

But yeah, let's just let it spread uncontrolled.

 

[FRUMPY]

20 times more deadly than regular flu. Millions of people get the flu each year. If 10,000,000 people in Australia get Covid19, then some 200,000 will die. These will also be clogging our hospitals and overwhelming our health system.

But yeah, let's just let it spread uncontrolled.

no they wont

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Only positive to come form this could be that Moomba is also cancelled (is what I’m hearing)

hopefully the Grand Prix as well

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

20 times more deadly than regular flu. Millions of people get the flu each year. If 10,000,000 people in Australia get Covid19, then some 200,000 will die. These will also be clogging our hospitals and overwhelming our health system.

But yeah, let's just let it spread uncontrolled.

Those boomers will eventually clog our hospital system for the next 20 years hanging on, this is just a more efficient and cost effective way of fastening up the process.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Would love to hear the opinions of anyone who works in hospitals in the major cities around australia. Where i work there is already recommendations for certain staff to stop wearing mask in operating theatres and only the staff scrubbed in (wearing sterile gowns/gloves and standing near the table) are to wear masks now.

Theres also a bit of talk of a contingency plan that 1 hospital will become the COVID19 hospital should an outbreak occur. This would mean transferring all patients out of that hospital, expanding the ICU ward to cater for 5x the normal amount of patients, and completely turning it into a quarantined site. The transfer of hundreds of patients out of that hospital would put a massive burden on every other hospital and im guessing most elective surgery will be postponed or cancelled.

So its not just the baby boomers who will be affected if the outbreak occurs. Not a good time to be pregnant, injure yourself, have an appendix or gall bladder play up. Any of you guys need regular meds? Just getting a prescription from your GP could be a nightmare with how much traffic will go through the GP's doors. And can you imagine walking into an overcrowded GP lobby/waiting area with everyone wearing facemasks and coughing? The whole health system will be overwhelmed if shit kicks off here.

So if I catch it, I won’t get to choose which private hospital I go to... life is just so unfair.

 

[D-N-R]

no they wont

It's a 2% mortality rate.

 

[Thrawn]

It's a 2% mortality rate.

That's only low-end too. When you factor in the under-reporting and hospitals running out of places, not enough ventilators, etc that figure is higher.

 

[FRUMPY]

That's only low-end too. When you factor in the under-reporting and hospitals running out of places, not enough ventilators, etc that figure is higher.

and consider all those who havnt reported being crook and have recovered......figure drops

 

[Asapartyhat]

From what I understand from offical statements from the state government and appropriate sources in WA.We are expecting cases sooner or later and the policy is isolate and contain clusters as they appear and stagger the spread so medical facilitys and hospitals don't get overwhelmed.They are in the process of setting up ' fever clinics' were people can get tested and various community halls and areas for inital patients so hospitals and resources are freed up as much as possible for serious cases.They are expecting six to ten months of cases once it starts.

 

[RunningBounce]

Ya kidding? Ebola, Zika lol. I'm sure there were more too.

A pandemic is not a new disease. It's a new disease that has the characteristics to spread to most of the world's population. Ebola and Zika don't have the characteristics. The fact it's a new disease is significant because it means no humans have immunity.

Most Australians will probably catch COVID-19, at some point in the next 10 years. The trouble comes if we all catch it at the same time and the hospitals can't cope. That's why containment measures, such as cancelling large gatherings in public places, are implemented. It doesn't stop the disease, but it does slow it's spread.

 

[smasha]

#savetheferrets

 

[GarnerSmash]

That's only low-end too. When you factor in the under-reporting and hospitals running out of places, not enough ventilators, etc that figure is higher.

Or high end.

Many more people won't get tested and will be perfectly fine, those who do get really sick end up in hospital. Plus, countries unprepared to deal with an outbreak, like China early on and Iran, will get smashed initially and will lose patients as they play catch up.

Mortality rates as of today:

Iran mortality rate 5.5% (~1000 cases)
China Mortality rate 3.6% (~80,000 cases)
Italy mortality rate 2.4% (~1700 cases)
US mortality rate 2.3% (~100 cases)
France mortality rate 1.5% (~130 cases)
South Korea mortality rate 0.6% (~4200 cases)
Japan mortality rate 0.13% (~250 cases)

Japan and Korea were hit pretty quickly after China, but have comparatively excellent medical services for their population. Almost 4,500 cases with a mortality rate of around 0.4%. That speaks to preparedness and facilities.

Iran probably is under prepared both in planning and facilities, hence the higher mortality rate. Clearly China got hit hard early but the mortality rate has dropped significantly recently thanks to efforts to control the spread and provide treatment.

I reckon the French, US and Italian mortality rates will drop once they get a larger sample size due to their resources. Australia will also have a low rate I'd say.