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Pardon my intrusion again- last post I promise- but in answer to your question- you simply don't understand Carlton, Victoria, Pratt, Victorian Politics and the AFL.
MAFIA is one way to describe it
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Crows' 'tamper' affair
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Pardon my intrusion again- last post I promise- but in answer to your question- you simply don't understand Carlton, Victoria, Pratt, Victorian Politics and the AFL.
MAFIA is one way to describe it
b0ydman
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Ok. I lie.
So the order is GWS,GC, Melbourne & Port.
I think we have our heart set on Liam Jurrah
I'd dare say the Tippetts will be shopping in lovely Far West Sydney?
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lol salary cap investigation now. Do they honestly think the goody two shoes at the AFC would ever contemplate such a thing as breaching the salary cap! Good luck to them. They will probably laugh when they see how much the spud that is Tippett was being paid.
Dirty Bird
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Yes he can.
There are two options.
Take the base wage or nominate your own salary.
Ironically though, those who take the latter are basically draft tampering as they price themselves out of the market for most clubs as they have a pre-determined amount with 1 club.
Judd's VISY deal has been approved by the AFL (though they have said that they wouldn't approve it under the latest regulations). As long as it's declared in the stat dec, then no rules have been breached.
The issue here is that Tippett & co have signed a secondary contract, which they have not mentioned to the AFL (knowing full well that the AFL would not accept it). They lied about it in the stat decs that they all signed.
Yes he can nominate his salary and contract length. Sydney can't load it though to fit into their cap.
To be determined. Every other former- AFL player can. It's likely that Tippett will be allowed to. The <evil bastard> in me says that he shouldn't be allowed to, giving GWS the ability to sign him for minimum wages on a 2-year contract.
Well reading the draft papers anyone can name terms and as much as I like the idea if it did happen it is likely to go to court.
Dirty Bird
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I think at this point, we don't give a shit about Tippett. It's about protecting the club and reducing the damage.
I for one would be elated if Tippett was unemployed in 2013.
I have actually been feeling 'cbf' about the whole situtation, that was untill tonight when I saw that article about potential investigations into breaching the salary cap.
Not anyone. From the AFL Player Rules:
It's fairly clear - first year draftees are excluded. They cannot specify any required football payments.
Meh.
I'm over it, the whole situation is a joke.
I get the impression Blucher and old man Tippett have created this disaster.
Nice one the rules and the nomination form don't match
How do you work that..Nice one the rules and the nomination form don't match
I'm looking at the AFL Draft Form now. The ability to specify a minimum remuneration package is SECTION B, which can only be completed by Category 1 players - "Players (other than first-year draft choice players or such players in their second year)". First year draftee players (ie kids who have never been on an AFL list before) are only Category 2 and they "may nominate generally without specifying financial terms and conditions by completing section A."
Dirty Bird
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http://www.nabafldraftnom.com.au/theForm.jsp;jsessionid=PJCKILDPGCEG
If you take option 1, you can nominate your own salary in each individual year for a 2-7 year contract....................How I'm tempted to nominate under the name of Kurt Tippett
If you take option 1, you can nominate your own salary in each individual year for a 2-7 year contract....................How I'm tempted to nominate under the name of Kurt Tippett
So more (second hand) info coming to light ...
We sold our soul
Not looking good for anyone at this stage. Except maybe Power supporters.
It looks like AFC were pushed to show AFL the emails / docs supporting Tippett's "right" to go to Sydney for the deal on the table.
I would not have thought it possible, but it appears that they actually wrote it down somewhere and allowed Tippett and his manager and father to hold it over them.
Those involved will be out, which is part of being involved in a business - you want the pay packet and responsibility ... you get the axe when you don't wield it properly.
Me thinks a biggish fine is in the offing - maybe some draft sanctions, and GWS / Brisbane / GC will get themselves a high maintenance over-priced forward through the PSD.
We sold our soul
Not looking good for anyone at this stage. Except maybe Power supporters.
It looks like AFC were pushed to show AFL the emails / docs supporting Tippett's "right" to go to Sydney for the deal on the table.
I would not have thought it possible, but it appears that they actually wrote it down somewhere and allowed Tippett and his manager and father to hold it over them.
Those involved will be out, which is part of being involved in a business - you want the pay packet and responsibility ... you get the axe when you don't wield it properly.
Me thinks a biggish fine is in the offing - maybe some draft sanctions, and GWS / Brisbane / GC will get themselves a high maintenance over-priced forward through the PSD.
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The Visy deal was declared at the time, included in the contract, and approved by the AFL. Its completely legal.
IMO the AFL only approved it partly out of guilt at the state they left Carlton in after smashing us for breaches in '02.
They changed the rules the following year to stop similar type deals getting through in contracts.
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and Trigg and Reid and the AFC Board. The fact that Rob Chapman came out last night in support of Trigg would suggest they also
knew of the dodgy deal. So they should also be under scrutiny. The AFC office xmas party this year could be a lonely place to be.
This whole mess makes me ill. I'm sure players families and managers come out with outlandish demands all the time its just that the other clubs stand firm. But not our guys. As I said earlier, could you imagine Neil Balme or Eddie agreeing to Tippetts fathers/managers ridiculous demands.
I am thinking only Trigg and Reid knew the full extent of this. Wasn't Tip's signature Reid's "Parting Gift" to the club?
I doubt the board would have ratified the extra payments and doubt they knew. Smart and Chapman seem genuine in their comments on the matter.
I doubt the board would have ratified the extra payments and doubt they knew. Smart and Chapman seem genuine in their comments on the matter.
More to the point, can you imagine either of them leaving themselves or their clubs open to what the AFC have?
There are definitely deals done outside of the AFL agreements ... absolutely .... but to have it blow up in your own face like this just shows a level of incompetence that I wouldn't have thought was possible. Especially when you look at who was involved with this. Experienced - intelligent - administrators. Apparently.
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If thats the case, then as soon as the investigation has been completed, and regardless of the result, Chapman should sack Trigg.
He wants to live in Sydney.
You guys want fair compensation.
Trade him to GWS and you guys will be compensated and he gets his wish living in Sydney.
You guys want fair compensation.
Trade him to GWS and you guys will be compensated and he gets his wish living in Sydney.
