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This makes no sense.
I'm critiquing your posts. Enduring your chin-stroking banalities in person isn't necessary.
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Sorry what?
This makes no sense. If it's objectively determined, what is the nature of the disagreement?
It's racist to appreciate indigenous art and expect that the artist is actually indigenous?
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I’m truly intrigued as to what you’d be like in person given your current fixation on someone you’ve never met.
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The feeling isn't mutual.
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These words are razors to my wounded heart.
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Cultural appropriation warning!
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I'm not sure it falls directly into the category of cultural appropriation but Alec Baldwin's missus has some egg on her face.
She's basically been claiming Spanish heritage for years despite being 0 per cent Spanish. There are clips of her putting on a fake Spanish accent and even pretending to not know the English word for cucumber while on a cooking show.
It's not like she has Spanish grandparents and the accent comes and goes. To repeat, she has 0 per cent Spanish heritage. She was born in Boston to rich white parents but has built a fake identity around being Spanish. Her name was Hilary but she renamed herself Hilaria, with a silent H. And she gave her kids Spanish names. It was all a bullshit grift, pretending to be Spanish.
Whether it constitutes "cultural appropriation" is up for debate, I guess. But the sheer pretentiousness of it is cringeworthy.
She's basically been claiming Spanish heritage for years despite being 0 per cent Spanish. There are clips of her putting on a fake Spanish accent and even pretending to not know the English word for cucumber while on a cooking show.
It's not like she has Spanish grandparents and the accent comes and goes. To repeat, she has 0 per cent Spanish heritage. She was born in Boston to rich white parents but has built a fake identity around being Spanish. Her name was Hilary but she renamed herself Hilaria, with a silent H. And she gave her kids Spanish names. It was all a bullshit grift, pretending to be Spanish.
Whether it constitutes "cultural appropriation" is up for debate, I guess. But the sheer pretentiousness of it is cringeworthy.
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Well the two modern phenomena of cultural appropriation and post modernist "I am what I say I am, bugger the objective facts" come head to head.
Which of these out-ranks the other in what is acceptable in polite society these days?
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See Rachel Dolezal.
I would argue one of the few examples of actual cultural appropriation are when people like Dolezal claim some weird trans-racial or fake identity.
If you do it, it's either a psychological issues or some sort of malevolent grift at its root, and that's bad. Compare the motivation and scale of it to one of the more recent blow-ups, like a white girl choosing a game avatar with a typically African-American hairstyle.
If you do it, it's either a psychological issues or some sort of malevolent grift at its root, and that's bad. Compare the motivation and scale of it to one of the more recent blow-ups, like a white girl choosing a game avatar with a typically African-American hairstyle.
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It's probably a bit both with Hillary. What sort of fruitcake would claim that her "Spanish" parents had trouble pronouncing her married name "Baldwin" when
her Dad is David Thomas, a Georgetown educated lawyer from Vermont and her Mum is Harvard med-school ex-professor, Dr. Kathryn Hayward from Boston. Her "Spanishness" would have got her prominence in Latin magazines and TV shows, and also allowed her to claim racial victim status.
Dolezal clearly faked being black to gain advantage such as becoming chapter presidency of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
US Democrat politician Elizabeth Warren used her claim of being native American to gain advantage through her career. After Trump called her out on it she took a DNA test that revealed some faint ancestry but it blew up the whole genetics vs culture debate.
In Australia, Bruce Pascoe has been selling books and winning awards on the basis of his Aboriginality. He grew up British/Aussie. It was only in his 30s that he "discovered" his questionable Indigenous ancestry, culture and subsequent gravy train.
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Local pizza place near where I used to live was started by an Italian bloke, who then sold the business on the proviso that he was allowed to keep working the kitchen when he wanted. The new owners were vietnamese, and even when he isn't there they absolutely smash out damn perfect pizza just by emulating what he'd do.
The place is one of the most underrated pizza places in Melbourne, at least for my tastes.
End thread. Pretty much says everything that needs to be said.
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At a macro level I think sharing culture enriches us all. On a micro/medium level there would be plenty of room for wealthy people to co-opt the desirable cultural elements of another less well off group to market it to the broader masses and make even more money.
So I see it as a problem only in the middle of the spectrum. Singular/small scale it's great to expose people to new ways of living, in the middle it can be exploitative and then on the large scale we are all enriched.
I guess the issue is that the perceived benefits of the large scale will wash over the potential issues of the medium level that created it.
So I see it as a problem only in the middle of the spectrum. Singular/small scale it's great to expose people to new ways of living, in the middle it can be exploitative and then on the large scale we are all enriched.
I guess the issue is that the perceived benefits of the large scale will wash over the potential issues of the medium level that created it.
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Can anyone provide the legal implications of "welcome to country"?
Does this "welcome" qualify me as an aboriginal?
Does this "welcome" qualify me as an aboriginal?
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Does he? That's nice.
I thought so too
All our British culture is appropriated
maybe you should stop fixating on redundant grammar and learn how to understand basic concepts and words instead.
Did this come back really take 2.5 years for you to think of?
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"The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine"
Plot twist - no justice was had. Not a single skerrick.
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I'm not the one who doesn't understand basic words. Like then/than.
Says the person who regularly posts "i dont understand" and " what does that mean" in response to basic words and concepts.
Ironically the only time you understood was when i substituted then for than. Although you still didnt understand the implication.
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