Current Membership Tally

[Lidge]

30000 ticketed members is an awesome return for North, probably puts you in the top 5-6 Vic teams?

Not really fussed how we track against the other clubs, as long as they have their heads above water and we keep on keeping on.

Next objective is to deliver a similar number next year and increase our average attendances (which we appear to be doing - ave crowd of 42,000 for the 3 games played so far). Big test in trying to get 30,000 through the gates vs Melbourne this weekend.

 

[thatday]

After yesterdays game and 71,000 crowd Collingwood are now on 39,450 members.

Good work Pies

Wow, thats a fair increase.

 

[Mingo]

Big test in trying to get 30,000 through the gates vs Melbourne this weekend.

If you do that I will be quite impressed with your turnaround from last year.

 

[retroparty]

Make that 38,412

Ah gets better every day

 

[Hawkk]

Not really fussed how we track against the other clubs, as long as they have their heads above water and we keep on keeping on.

Next objective is to deliver a similar number next year and increase our average attendances (which we appear to be doing - ave crowd of 42,000 for the 3 games played so far). Big test in trying to get 30,000 through the gates vs Melbourne this weekend.

I wouldnt worry about the fan numbers ATM. It took us a good 5-6 years to translate good membership figures into good crowd figures.

The important thing is to get the fans joining up year after year and the crowds will take care of themselves

 

[Lidge]

I wouldnt worry about the fan numbers ATM. It took us a good 5-6 years to translate good membership figures into good crowd figures.

The important thing is to get the fans joining up year after year and the crowds will take care of themselves

Nup. For us, it is important. Gives us leverage when negotiating a half decent stadium deal.

Not a worry that you had with Waverley.

 

[LongBomb]

Geelong up to 34k fully ticketed.

 

[gorangers]

nice to see the crows are high up there and even nicer to see they are higher than port lol

 

[AngelEyes]

Only 1,100 non ticketed. Hopefully we can top up the 'non ticketed' tally, as they are money for jam. Require no real servicing and are high profit margin.

So you are really about 30,000 members assuming that 1,100 figure is accruate as Roos fans were saying the Kangaroos have 1,000 non-ticketed members two months ago. That would be a very slow growth rate compared to the rest of membership numbers. Lidge, do you know this number for certain or is it a guess?

Congrats on getting to about 30,000 ticketed members. By the way are Gold Coast members included in your tally like the Hawks include the Tassie members? It would be important to know those figures accurately.

 

[RoyalBlue]

So you are really about 30,000 members assuming that 1,100 figure is accruate as Roos fans were saying the Kangaroos have 1,000 non-ticketed members two months ago. That would be a very slow growth rate compared to the rest of membership numbers. Lidge, do you know this number for certain or is it a guess?

Congrats on getting to about 30,000 ticketed members. By the way are Gold Coast members included in your tally like the Hawks include the Tassie members? It would be important to know those figures accurately.

The 1,100 non ticketed figure is direct from the CEO a week ago at the AGM.

Previous estimations from North fans on here of 1000 weren't far off the mark, actually fairly accurate estimations by those who aren't in the inner circle of admin.

Last year there were something like 1400 'Gold Coast' members - which is an AFL membership. None of the money from those memberships went to the club, all of it was taken by the AFL in return for the $400,000 per game.

Those figures were included in the club total last year, however as I understand it (and once again this is just my understanding) this year those figures won't be included, especially as the club admin are passionately against padding out the membership figure.

There will be some 'Aussie Roo' members (admits to five North games) from the Gold Coast, but these won't total anymore than 500 (and that's been generous) Queensland wide.

I hope this information helps, and I stress that the club is more than forthcoming if you contact it directly. Thanks for taking an interest.

 

[Z_K]

So you are really about 30,000 members assuming that 1,100 figure is accruate as Roos fans were saying the Kangaroos have 1,000 non-ticketed members two months ago. That would be a very slow growth rate compared to the rest of membership numbers. Lidge, do you know this number for certain or is it a guess?

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You have never quite grasped the concept that you have never known who you were arguing with on this thread, have you? North is a relatively small organisation. Inside info is common place. So is knowing very well people who know things you don't, the amount of which is not measurable by any means yet to be conceived by human beings.

 

[AngelEyes]

You have never quite grasped the concept that you have never known who you were arguing with on this thread, have you? North is a relatively small organisation. Inside info is common place. So is knowing very well people who know things you don't, the amount of which is not measurable by any means yet to be conceived by human beings.

And what does that have to with my question? I simply asked was it sourced or was it a guess as that has a great deal of bearing on its accuracy. Unlike you, the poster above you answered the question rather than go about some crap like you have trying to pretend that you're someone special. SEN is full of "inside info" doesn't make it anymore credible.

I know very well what statistics I have disputed, its sadly, Kangaroo fans (like you) who can't seem to understand the concept of ticketed members being the only ones who count in membership tallies. They claim all the other clubs count the non-ticketed members but who does? Essendon I can think of. Please feel free to list all the others. Surely with your inside information, why don't you only count ticketed members like most other clubs? Non-ticketed members aren't something unique to the Kangaroos. All clubs have them but they don't count them. Why are the Kangaroos the odd ones out?

 

[RoyalBlue]

And what does that have to with my question? I simply asked was it sourced or was it a guess as that has a great deal of bearing on its accuracy. Unlike you, the poster above you answered the question rather than go about some crap like you have trying to pretend that you're someone special. SEN is full of "inside info" doesn't make it anymore credible.

I know very well what statistics I have disputed, its sadly, Kangaroo fans (like you) who can't seem to understand the concept of ticketed members being the only ones who count in membership tallies. They claim all the other clubs count the non-ticketed members but who does? Essendon I can think of. Please feel free to list all the others. Surely with your inside information, why don't you only count ticketed members like most other clubs? Non-ticketed members aren't something unique to the Kangaroos. All clubs have them but they don't count them. Why are the Kangaroos the odd ones out?

I agree that NorthBhoy was over the top in his response AngelEyes, regrettably so.

I think in this post relocation issue era we should all interact collaboratively in the interests of furthering the membership, and subtext ticketed v non ticketed, debates.

I think almost every North fan on here understands your constantly well argued and sage points on the issue of advertising ticketed membership levels. NorthBhoy however, with his devil may care attitude to debate on here, is perhaps merely trying to get your attention.

He'd do well to take a leaf out of your style of courteously debating the question!

 

[Z_K]

And what does that have to with my question? I simply asked was it sourced or was it a guess as that has a great deal of bearing on its accuracy. Unlike you, the poster above you answered the question rather than go about some crap like you have trying to pretend that you're someone special. SEN is full of "inside info" doesn't make it anymore credible.

RoyalBlue was very subtle, but he was taking the piss. Just so you know. And I wasn't talking about me, again, just so you know.

I know very well what statistics I have disputed, its sadly, Kangaroo fans (like you) who can't seem to understand the concept of ticketed members being the only ones who count in membership tallies. They claim all the other clubs count the non-ticketed members but who does? Essendon I can think of. Please feel free to list all the others. Surely with your inside information, why don't you only count ticketed members like most other clubs? Non-ticketed members aren't something unique to the Kangaroos. All clubs have them but they don't count them. Why are the Kangaroos the odd ones out?

We've been through this. It is a ludicrous question, simply because you frame it like it's a harmful conspiracy that requires investigation by the NSA, CIA and MI6. Maybe we add the extra 1000 members in the total the website because what we count as commitment to the club differs from the AFL? Maybe our website counter doesn't have the technology to break down smaller numbers? In short and without wanting to repeat myself, who cares?

You've been told the number. You know the AFL won't count non-ticketed members in the final figure.

What's the problem?

 

[The Zebra]

Leave Her Alone!!!

 

[Z_K]

____en hell. No more shameful thing than a bloke on the pull.

AngelEyes, I'be heard you're a looker. PM your number so I can call you a know nothing imbecile over the phone instead of posting it.

 

[RoyalBlue]

Boys, please.

There are women present.

 

[giantroo]

____en hell. No more shameful thing than a bloke on the pull.

AngelEyes, I'be heard you're a looker. PM your number so I can call you a know nothing imbecile over the phone instead of posting it.

HAHA!!! Man Zebra is gonna rip ya to shreds.

 

[The Zebra]

HAHA!!! Man Zebra is gonna rip ya to shreds.

Quite the opposite. NB is smooth and I am taking notes.

I might have the guns to catch their attention, but my nice guy schtik rarely closes the deal.

Know what I mean?

 

[gopies1981]

After yesterdays game and 71,000 crowd Collingwood are now on 39,450 members.

Good work Pies

This again must confirm that we are the No.1 supported club in Victoria. We could be pushing for 45,000 member's!

 

[giantroo]

Quite the opposite. NB is smooth and I am taking notes.

I might have the guns to catch their attention, but my nice guy schtik rarely closes the deal.

Know what I mean?

Yep Zeb.

 

[Dan26]

Collingwood had the highest aggregate attendances in each year between 1992 to 1994 (when essendon had moved its home games to the G).

1994
Collinwood 1,039,519
essendon 939,347

1993
Collingwood 888,130
essendon 864,819

1992
Collingwood 1,032,425
essendon 763,762

Its very generous of you not to include those years because you nobley think it will disadvantage Collingwood, but I'm happy to include these as it appears that we had more supporters despite you guys getting the jump at the G and also having a flag tucked in there as well. The only reason you've not counted those years is cos it doesn't suit you to.

The fact that you think you are being objective shows how far away from objective reasoning you are. You accuse everyone else of picking apart stats to suit their case without any awareness that you are doing the same thing. you are an ironic fool, that has already been established.

If roy morgan are using a certain methedology one year that's wrong, they'll be using it every year. There is no correcting mechanism. There are no elections or censuses that help to correct polling and other survey methods. On top of that, it doesn't differentiate between a nominal supporter and genuine one. You can take a silly survery we'll take the reality of more members, higher attendances, much higher turnover.

You can keep asserting the same points that have already been contested and claiming that anyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong and not being objective. If you keep doing that you can at least mantain the delusion in your own head at least, but you are not fooling anyone else

From 1995 onwards. That being the year that BOTH clubs were playing out of the MCG, the total atendances for ALL 286 H&A games are virtually identical.

Yes, Collingwood outdrew Essendon in '92, '93, '94. Also in most years prior to that too. So? Essendon has won 2 flags since then and thier supporter base has increased. Essendon overtook Collingwood in the mid 90' as the young fans who began supporting Essendon after the 1984 and 1985 premiership reached the age where they started going to the football 10 years later. Remember, 25% of all 14-24 year olds barrack for Essendon and that is the strength area we used to overtake Collingwood in the mid 90's.

Snce BOTH clubs have been playing ou of the MCG, the attendances are the same. This cannot be disputed beause the facts are laid bare on the table.

You can play around with stats and Include "some" years and not include others. You can selectively start your stats at a certain point that deliberately advantages Collingwood. But the broad numbers show that since BOTH clubs have been playing nearly all their home games at the MCG, the crowds are the same. That's without bending stats or being unfairly selective. That begins the comparison from the very year that BOTH clubs were using the MCG as their primary ground. You've seen the numbers. They're the same. 47,000 each per game over the last 286 games.

And the Roy Morgan poll you like to dismiss, has Essendon in front of Collingwood every year for the 7 years it has been conducted. SEVEN years. Not a one off fluke. But 7 consecutive years. This is a research company that specialises in surveys and data collection. They specialise in accuracy because people pay the for their expertise. This isn't some school kid conducting a survey. This is a reputed survey company and Essendon comes out ahead of the Magpies EVERY year.What are you going to do? Tell 'em theyre wrong? LOL. Every year!

Essendon has more supporters than Collingwood and virtually every recent survey confirms it. If you believe Collingwood has more, you are going to have to prove it. Show me some actual evidence.

Since BOTH clubs have been playing out of the MCG (to make any comparison fair) the average crowd over all 286 games differs by no more than 200. Despite Collingwood playing more MCG games over that period. So, you can't prove it with attendances. If anything the attendances prove that boths clus drawing power at games is the same.

You can't prove it with survey results either because they put Essendon in front. Every. Single. Year.

So, go on... prove it. Find something to support your case. Anything.

 

[JD-Roo]

Here we go again

Didn't we just go through pages and pages of this Ess v Coll stuff.

Fellas, why not just flop 'em out on the bench and measure them 'coz that's ALL this argument really boils down to.

 

[Yianni]

Fellas, why not just flop 'em out on the bench and measure them 'coz that's ALL this argument really boils down to.

Can we get Roy Morgan to audit the results?

 

[Hawkk]

Hawthorn - 35,747

Revised Target: 40,000