List Mgmt. Dan Houston requests trade to Victoria - will stay if deal can't be done

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Collingwood turning John Noble and a future pick into Dan Houston would be one of the best offseasons of all time.

If they don’t have any more picks to give then get 3-4 year deals in front of Ben Allen, Harry DeMattia or any other younger players we rate on their list. or just shut this circus down now.
 
Looking at Collingwood's top agers

Pendlebury 36
Howe 34
Sidebottom 33
Cox 33
Elliot 32
Mihocek 31
Mitchell 31
Hoskin-Elliot 31
Crisp 31

And about to trade out early picks for Houston, plus losing a mid-age player in Richards.

There's a cliff coming ...
 
There is a correlation between the ‘little club from Alberton’ and ‘everyone’s second team’ rhetoric and our poor negotiating. I reckon it also plays a part in letting the Victorian AFL media influencing the value we give and get for our trades. Essentially, Koch has set an environment where we need to be seen as reasonable in all trades. So, we start every trade from a vulnerable position.

This is certainly at play with Dan.
 
If we make a dumb trade it's on us not some dicktorian on trade radio
You can argue we shouldn’t, but we do. It’s not even debatable at this point that we fold to media pressure.

Sure, there’s responsibility on the club (and by club let’s be clear , when we use the word “us” like you’re using it’s pretty tenuous, who feels like this is their club anymore? The one where members have no control and were forced to operate under different controls than vic clubs)

but if you think the afl media doesn’t run a racket , and that our club isn’t susceptible to it you’ve got your head in the sand.

It’s widely accepted here that Hinkley has had a record breaking run here in his tenure and during that time the media has ran a protection campaign for him.

It’s not even up for debate that said campaign has protected him.

And the messaging around trades lol. There’s been clear contradictions applied to port time and again, and it’s entirely clear we’ve folded to them.

And we all are under the impression that we’re going to fold to them again this offseason.

Can anyone imagine the kind of media backlash port would have copped if during our hunt for Jhf if we had said our current first was off the table. We would have been torn to shreds. Shreds.
 
All good, happy to keep him. 13 + 23 will be there at a minimum in 12 months after potentially 3 straight AA campaigns.

Not fussed on richards either way. Should be a late 3rd round pick at best via trade anyway.

Just a reminder that Essendon fans have held a grudge against us here for years cause they viewed the pick 17 and second rounder we gave up for paddy “I’m going to sue you campaigners for jabbing me up with unknown drugs and have a long ban hanging over my head” Ryder.

The idea that 17+ second rounder for Ryder was such horrid unders that dons fans are still upset by it but we should take 13 + 2nd rounder for AA Houston is putrid.
 
Carlton if they think they are in the window need to ask themselves questions like if you are 2 points down in a prelim with 2 minutes left on the clock in the last quarter do you want Houston pin pointing a 50 plus metre kick out of defense or do you think your current lot could pull it off.. it's that simple if you think you are close.

Pony up if you are serious.
 

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I'm fully accepting that port will do shit deal for Houston like 13+23+Richards for Houston what is 100% reflective of the meek attitude that makes me less and less involved with Port
 

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