News Dan Houston traded to Collingwood

[Powertron]

Cool story

BTW, Houston has NEVER stated he isn't interested in Port and is quite happy to stay with the club.

But you're a Carlton supporter. Low IQ who probably cried like a baby when they lost to Saints then cheered for Port after they got you a 2nd chance In finals.

I think it was just a mistype - he meant not interested in North.

 

[It Just Is]

That Carlton and North trade would be great for us. Pick 12/14 + Norths future first is a good deal.

 

[Chewy316]

Gold Coast wants a future first rounder
North wants Houston, North willing to trade future first rounder
Port wants first round picks this year.

Isn't this the most obvious and simplest path?

Of course it's the easiest path, but it's a non-starter unless Dan is willing to go to North. I personally believe if Collingwood don't come to the party, Dan will accept a move to North. He's desperate to get back to Melbourne. I've been told all week to watch out for North, that the media weren't taking their interest in Houston seriously enough. So let's see how this plays out in the coming days (don't expect anything to happen over the weekend though).

So is it under or overs?

Unders.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

When push comes to shove they'll swap their future second for our future third or something to get the deal over the line. They'll get their man and we'll claim that we got the points value of pick 5 and that this draft is so deep and pick 13 is a great pick, etc.

I hear what you're saying but I reckon Dimma might stop that before it even gets started. I actually like Noble as a player but there is no way he is worth more than a late second.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Well bloody said.

You are going to cop a lot of hate here for speaking the truth, but stay strong.

It’s the best case for you - he’ll stay at Alberton.

 

[Powertron]

Have you guys noticed?

This has become a thread full of Port fans fantasising amongst yourselves.

No Carlton, North or Collingwood engaged posters;

1. Carlton want to invest in this draft,
2. Collingwood can’t even land 13,
3. Houston not interested in Port.

Looks like he’s staying in SA peeps.

I think it’s a case of no one can is on the same page re value for Dan. We want circa 2 first rounders that no one has.

Collingwood vastly overrate the spud that is John Noble’s value.

You guys are intent on the draft (which I would agree with if I was a Carlton supporter).

North Dan doesn’t prefer but is the only one who can theoretically meet the asking price and is willing to do so.

It’s going to be a test of Dan’s want to go back to Melbourne or our willingness to take unders.

I reckon he decides North is ok.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

So it should be. It’s on the port board you muppet.

I get that - we have oppo’s sharing on ours also

I think it’s a case of no one can is on the same page re value for Dan. We want circa 2 first rounders that no one has.

Collingwood vastly overrate the spud that is John Noble’s value.

You guys are intent on the draft (which I would agree with if I was a Carlton supporter).

North Dan doesn’t prefer but is the only one who can theoretically meet the asking price and is willing to do so.

It’s going to be a test of Dan’s want to go back to Melbourne or our willingness to take unders.

I reckon he decides North is ok.

Yep - he’s definately worth two firsts or a top 10 pick.

I’d love him at Carlton but it just doesn’t align for us.

North need to get selling!

 

[It Just Is]

Of course it's the easiest path, but it's a non-starter unless Dan is willing to go to North. I personally believe if Collingwood don't come to the party, Dan will accept a move to North. He's desperate to get back to Melbourne. I've been told all week to watch out for North, that the media weren't taking their interest in Houston seriously enough. So let's see how this plays out in the coming days (don't expect anything to happen over the weekend though).



Unders.

Is it Collingwood not coming to the party or just that they don’t have anywhere near the capital?

They have a future first which you wouldn’t bet on being an early pick and John Nobel who, media doing Collingwood’s bidding aside, is worth a 3rd round pick.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Im shocked that the Port Adelaide board of Port Adelaide supporters posting about a Port Adelaide player isnt filled with supporters of other clubs and agree this demonstrates the positions of the list managers involved in the trade.

Also in terms of fantasy, most of us want him to stay.

You should get your wish.

I wouldn’t want to lose a player of his calibre.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Wingard is the only top 5 player we have traded out apart from Burgoyne. And I think we rolled over for less than he was worth there. Other than that we have traded out many players for a lot less than we were initially asking or thought that they were worth on here.

Wingard had one year left on a deal and Port thought he was going to jump as a free agent the next year. We did what we could there, the deal was fine.

Burgoyne was a lifetime ago, but out of contract and had been seduced by Clarkson as well as possible personal issues that were hinted at but never confirmed. Two first round picks and Jay Nash (with picks going back the other way) in a battle that was fought right over trade week was fair and certainly not rolling over.

 

[Macca19]

Yes, true. You can throw in Mitch Duncan and Jack Gunston as well.

Although I acknowledge it's easy to pick the eyes out of a draft retrospectively. But many posters here were crying out for us to at least pick 2 KPPs and Talia was mentioned multiple times.

To draft 2 flankers who were both reaches at their picks was negligent.

Butcher, Talia and Tapscott were the three I wanted.

Such a waste

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Wingard deal was elite.

 

[PJ Power]

Is it Collingwood not coming to the party or just that they don’t have anywhere near the capital?

They have a future first which you wouldn’t bet on being an early pick and John Nobel who, media doing Collingwood’s bidding aside, is worth a 3rd round pick.

I think it’s Collingwood not having the capital but also being arrogant enough to think they can take us for a ride. Richards wanting to come to us has muddied the waters also, allowing them to overvalue him on the way to undervaluing Houston.

The two 1R picks that Carlton now hold are the right price for Houston.

Alternatively something like pick 6 and 23.

Best case scenario is that we deal with North via Carlton.

As much as having pick 2 ourselves is enticing, having two solid first round picks in this draft seems like a strong alternative too.

Take a high potential mid who can kick goals and then a KPP inside the first 15 picks.

 

[Macca19]

Pretty sure Gawn was also an option at both 9 and 16

Yes but not realistically. Dont think he was ever spoken about as an early pick.

Gawn going from munting on and costing Melbourne their number 1 pick to being the best ruck of his generation is pretty extraordinary

 

[Capital Power]

Not looking forward to the prospect of Dan with a premiership medal with another team. I cant imagine even we would be silly enough to accept unders from a club in their window.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Collingwood's offer is rubbish (in as much as an offer where they have no components can be an offer) but this is week one of an AFL-confected revenue stream that has to be filled in with something to get listeners/viewers/readers.

It will start to heat up from Monday.

 

[tribey]

Have you guys noticed?

This has become a thread full of Port fans fantasising amongst yourselves.

Yes. I believe this is the first thread on a club board in BigFooty history where a potential blockbuster trade has been discussed in favourable terms for that club.

Well spotted, sir.

 

[Brian McGee]

Wingard had one year left on a deal and Port thought he was going to jump as a free agent the next year. We did what we could there, the deal was fine.

Burgoyne was a lifetime ago, but out of contract and had been seduced by Clarkson as well as possible personal issues that were hinted at but never confirmed. Two first round picks and Jay Nash (with picks going back the other way) in a battle that was fought right over trade week was fair and certainly not rolling over.

Wingard was unders. Burgoyne was a fine deal and if we got a similar one for Houston I think everyone would be happy.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Collingwoods offers have only involved picks they don’t have. GC have caught on that they can get better deals elsewhere. I’d be surprised to see him in a Collingwood gurnsey next year.

 

[Port 2004]

Collingwoods offers have only involved picks they don’t have. GC have caught on that they can get better deals elsewhere. I’d be surprised to see him in a Collingwood gurnsey next year.

I agree. Looking more likely to North imo.

 

[nomisg]

If Dan turns out accepting a move to North, doesn't that say something about him as a footballer, we should be glad to see the back of him. You want players hungry for success.

 

[Chewy316]

Is it Collingwood not coming to the party or just that they don’t have anywhere near the capital?

They have a future first which you wouldn’t bet on being an early pick and John Nobel who, media doing Collingwood’s bidding aside, is worth a 3rd round pick.

Well their offer is 13 and Richards and they really don't want to budge off that.

The reality is that if that was an offer Port was close to accepting, Carlton would still be in the race with pick 12. And they might bob up late if they offer 12 and 14, but I'm hearing that the list management team at Carlton want to go to the draft and that the only real Carlton heavy hitter trying to get Houston is Vossy.

If Dan turns out accepting a move to North, doesn't that say something about him as a footballer, we should be glad to see the back of him. You want players hungry for success.

Depends how desperate he is to get back to Melbourne. And the move itself would be a good one for North imo. Could free up Sheezel to play midfield minutes, or you have 2 elite half backs to build your transition offence around.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Stay at Port 12/10
North 17/10
St. Kilda 4/1
Collingwood 5/1
Carlton 25/1

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Wingard was unders. Burgoyne was a fine deal and if we got a similar one for Houston I think everyone would be happy.

Wingard looks like unders because of how Burton and X have ended up but at the time it was very reasonable. I remember at the time there were Hawks fans that didnt even want a direct Burton-Chad trade to happen.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Well their offer is 13 and Richards and they really don't want to budge off that.

The reality is that if that was an offer Port was close to accepting, Carlton would still be in the race with pick 12. And they might bob up late if they offer 12 and 14, but I'm hearing that the list management team at Carlton want to go to the draft and that the only real concern heavy hitter trying to get Houston is Vossy.

Unleash Crazy Vossy!