Player Watch Darcy Fogarty - Re-Signed to End of 2031

[Gtowncrow]

It's probably a reflection of the era. A lot of players in that time didn't undergoe any further education. Many would have barely matriculated, if they did at all. It just wasn't a priority for talented young footy players, in fact it would have been seen as lame in many cases.

However they were good at footy and had a public persona so were given jobs that are probably beyond their level of intelligence or education.

In the 90's and early 00's they could get away with being mediocre, politically incorrect or prickly in demeanor. But now with the extreme media focus and public scrutiny it's becoming exceedingly clear when Football Talent doesn't equate to a good personality or Coaching / Administrative talent.

Football talent not translating to good management or coaching skills is so true.

It's why all us BF experts make such phenomenally accurate and nuanced observations. Because we can't play...

 

[Sanders]

It's probably a reflection of the era. A lot of players in that time didn't undergoe any further education. Many would have barely matriculated, if they did at all. It just wasn't a priority for talented young footy players, in fact it would have been seen as lame in many cases.

However they were good at footy and had a public persona so were given jobs that are probably beyond their level of intelligence or education.

In the 90's and early 00's they could get away with being mediocre, politically incorrect or prickly in demeanor. But now with the extreme media focus and public scrutiny it's becoming exceedingly clear when Football Talent doesn't equate to a good personality or Coaching / Administrative talent.

You realise none of this is true?

 

[BrissyCrow]

Why is it alot of our past greats seem to undo some of their playing days good work?
Ricciuto
Hart
Smart
Edwards
Burton (not a great I guess)

Maybe the game has changed. More pressure results with poor execution.

 

[dylan123]

**** he looks good early so far.

 

[MrBarry]

Thank **** someone at the club had the brains to put him back in. The guy is a rolls royce when going.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Turning into one of the great positives of the season. That first quarter goal was beautiful

 

[dylan123]

Those 5 odd touches in the first quarter was far better then anything he was dishing up to start the season. Been a great 4 weeks worth of football from him so hopefully gets the confidence needed to keep working hard in games and have more impact. Love when either him or Tex swing around in the middle of the ground as you know we're going to get a kick to advantage for the majority of the time.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Thanks Ben Hart for allowing that habit to set

People need to stop jumping at self serving statements from coaches.

Was Rahilly really working on turning around Fog's forward craft when he was part of a coaching team that negligently tried to convert him to a midfielder last year?

 

[John Who]

The best part with Fog is his quality of possessions. His skills are sublime for a big fella. I think this year he’s breaking out with his improved level of fitness, and it’s resulting in a more consistent output, particularly in the past month. If only we had midfielders that could kick like Fog, to Fog..

 

[Jeffcrowe]

How good was Fog’s chase today ?? Loved it

 

[AFC979810]

People need to stop jumping at self serving statements from coaches.

Was Rahilly really working on turning around Fog's forward craft when he was part of a coaching team that negligently tried to convert him to a midfielder last year?

When did they try and make him a midfielder in 2021? Dude played 17 of 22 possible AFL games and every single one of them was up forward.

He only played 4 SANFL games (for 5 goals) last year. Now do you think they played him more through the midfield so that he could work on his known deficiencies -IE: Fitness, impacting the game across 4 quarters and finding more of the footy? Or do you think they used those 4 games to try and make him a midfielder?

Maybe you and your astonishingly large cranium saw something completely different to the above. I will of course defer to your amazing intellectual footy nous.

 

[Danger in Texas]

When did they try and make him a midfielder in 2021? Dude played 17 of 22 possible AFL games and every single one of them was up forward.

I seem to recall, while being at the game down in Tassie vs Hawthorn, that Fog was unsuccessfully trialled in the middle of the ground?

Now whether this was a one-off occurrence or not, I’m not sure

 

[MrBarry]

The best part with Fog is his quality of possessions. His skills are sublime for a big fella. I think this year he’s breaking out with his improved level of fitness, and it’s resulting in a more consistent output, particularly in the past month. If only we had midfielders that could kick like Fog, to Fog..

He has a quality football brain and skills, that's never been in question. Fog has the tools to be absolutely A grade.

 

[AFC979810]

I seem to recall, while being at the game down in Tassie vs Hawthorn, that Fog was unsuccessfully trialled in the middle of the ground?

Now whether this was a one-off occurrence or not, I’m not sure

Possibly. That was the game we stupidly went in ridiculously tall with a forward structure of Walker, Himmelburg, Fog, and Titlhorpe (with Tom Lynch as sub). Walker (3), Tilly (5) and Himmelburg (2) combined for 10 goals and I just don't think there was space for old Fog.

 

[AFC979810]

Those 5 odd touches in the first quarter was far better then anything he was dishing up to start the season. Been a great 4 weeks worth of football from him so hopefully gets the confidence needed to keep working hard in games and have more impact. Love when either him or Tex swing around in the middle of the ground as you know we're going to get a kick to advantage for the majority of the time.

And then 6 combined for the next 3 quarters. Derm acknowledged it during the commentary about how we all know he can do it, but he needs that work rate and ability to influence the game across 4 quarters.

2 games until he hits the 50 game mark. Will he be the first AFL player to reach 50 games without ever having reached 14+ disposals in an AFL game?

 

[Danger in Texas]

And then 6 combined for the next 3 quarters. Derm acknowledged it during the commentary about how we all know he can do it, but he needs that work rate and ability to influence the game across 4 quarters.

2 games until he hits the 50 game mark. Will he be the first AFL player to reach 50 games without ever having reached 14+ disposals in an AFL game?

I couldn’t really give a shit if he hits 14 disposals or not, as long as he’s consistently presenting and trying to make an impact, which he’s been doing recently

Up until the Geelong game he was failing to do so this year, but he’s been very good in his role the past few weeks

 

[Sanders]

It's probably a reflection of the era. A lot of players in that time didn't undergoe any further education. Many would have barely matriculated, if they did at all. It just wasn't a priority for talented young footy players, in fact it would have been seen as lame in many cases.

However they were good at footy and had a public persona so were given jobs that are probably beyond their level of intelligence or education.

In the 90's and early 00's they could get away with being mediocre, politically incorrect or prickly in demeanor. But now with the extreme media focus and public scrutiny it's becoming exceedingly clear when Football Talent doesn't equate to a good personality or Coaching / Administrative talent.

Just checking again:

You realise this is complete fiction right? Utter nonsense

 

[AFC979810]

I couldn’t really give a s**t if he hits 14 disposals or not, as long as he’s consistently presenting and trying to make an impact, which he’s been doing recently

Up until the Geelong game he was failing to do so this year, but he’s been very good in his role the past few weeks

This 3 game stretch has been promising and he has looked good, but we have seen this before. I still want to see just 1 game where he influences the game for 4 quarters.

2019 - Rds 20 - 22: 32 disposals, 17 marks, 9 goals, 1 behind 10 I50's
2021 - Rds 10-12: 23 disposals,10 marks, 7 goals, 2 behinds, 7 I50's
2022 - Rds 11-14: 34 disposals, 15 marks, 8 goals, 1 behind, 9 I50's

Hopefully this is the stretch where it continues.

 

[Danger in Texas]

This 3 game stretch has been promising and he has looked good, but we have seen this before. I still want to see just 1 game where he influences the game for 4 quarters.

2019 - Rds 20 - 22: 32 disposals, 17 marks, 9 goals, 1 behind 10 I50's
2021 - Rds 10-12: 23 disposals,10 marks, 7 goals, 2 behinds, 7 I50's
2022 - Rds 11-14: 34 disposals, 15 marks, 8 goals, 1 behind, 9 I50's

Hopefully this is the stretch where it continues.

I’d argue that he’s been presenting at the ball a lot more than he has in the past two 1/2 years. Agree that he has to keep it up, but this is stuff I haven’t consistently seen from Fog since that 2019 period you mention

 

[Cap]

2 games until he hits the 50 game mark. Will he be the first AFL player to reach 50 games without ever having reached 14+ disposals in an AFL game?

Have we confirmed that as fact yet?
I can't get an answer from any if the stat's gurus around.

There must be an easy way

 

[Southerntakeover]

When did they try and make him a midfielder in 2021? Dude played 17 of 22 possible AFL games and every single one of them was up forward.

He only played 4 SANFL games (for 5 goals) last year. Now do you think they played him more through the midfield so that he could work on his known deficiencies -IE: Fitness, impacting the game across 4 quarters and finding more of the footy? Or do you think they used those 4 games to try and make him a midfielder?

Maybe you and your astonishingly large cranium saw something completely different to the above. I will of course defer to your amazing intellectual footy nous.

Oh right. It never happened but it also happened for a really good reason.

 

[Southerntakeover]

This 3 game stretch has been promising and he has looked good, but we have seen this before. I still want to see just 1 game where he influences the game for 4 quarters.

2019 - Rds 20 - 22: 32 disposals, 17 marks, 9 goals, 1 behind 10 I50's
2021 - Rds 10-12: 23 disposals,10 marks, 7 goals, 2 behinds, 7 I50's
2022 - Rds 11-14: 34 disposals, 15 marks, 8 goals, 1 behind, 9 I50's

Hopefully this is the stretch where it continues.

I don't remember asking Siri to show me a plodder who can't work out that the problem's been his talent and performance assessment.

 

[Southerntakeover]

And then 6 combined for the next 3 quarters. Derm acknowledged it during the commentary about how we all know he can do it, but he needs that work rate and ability to influence the game across 4 quarters.

2 games until he hits the 50 game mark. Will he be the first AFL player to reach 50 games without ever having reached 14+ disposals in an AFL game?

Yeah, that's why he fell off in the second. Personal laziness. It's not like it happened to every single one of our key forwards because we got destroyed up the ground.

Walker three touches, Thilthorpe 2, McAdam 2 in the second. When will Fogarty's effort improve their outputs?

 

[Golumless]

When did they try and make him a midfielder in 2021? Dude played 17 of 22 possible AFL games and every single one of them was up forward.

He only played 4 SANFL games (for 5 goals) last year. Now do you think they played him more through the midfield so that he could work on his known deficiencies -IE: Fitness, impacting the game across 4 quarters and finding more of the footy? Or do you think they used those 4 games to try and make him a midfielder?

Maybe you and your astonishingly large cranium saw something completely different to the above. I will of course defer to your amazing intellectual footy nous.

They did. Spent the 4 SANFL games rotating as a mid/forward.

In that time he would either have a quarter where he looked good in the midfield and nothing else, or a quarter where he looked good as a forward and nothing else. Still, there was definitely some upside to it, as it probably killed the idea that Fog could make it as a forward/mid (noting Fog was drafted as one, due to how Glenelg used him). Still this improvement is on Fog, he got fitter/faster and he's worked out how to stop being a man child in the last month.

You don't play a lad in the midfield just for fitness reasons. You're trialing an idea. If you're worried about fitness, you flog the lad in preseason.

 

[AFC979810]

Oh right. It never happened but it also happened for a really good reason.

Apologies. I missed the 1 game out of 48 that he had a run in the midfield in the AFL.

Ruined his development that did. Scholars will look back to that round 6 game in Hobart as what ruined poor fogs entire career.