David Koch - The Chairman of the Board

[EskimoPAFC]

nah man - works perfectly fine for me

so you’re wrong I’m sorry.

Ok yes you're right I shouldn't have said anybody - it definitely works for some people. I had meant anybody in the sense that in many situations it can deliver poor results for employee, employer and customer.

I'll try to make this my last post on the subject as its becoming a bit of a thread hijack but in short: I can concede the article has been written in a pretty wanky way, but I also think there are very good points within it that are being backed up by current research and if we all focused on work outcomes a bit more and were willing to try different things in terms of work habits I'd say it would benefit a lot of people. Many are of course already pretty far down this path.

 

[PowerBaz]

Who the hell still works 9-5?

Never. That’s build Ford motor cars stuff, clock on clock off…. Oh it’s my old employer…. ‘Fill out your timesheet’ so the boss can go fishing….

Once you run your own show you look back into that work for the construct that it is….. control.

Go to school, get a job, meet someone, have a kid, buy a house, have debt…..so go to work…. The hampster wheel of life….

Unless your Ken, no debt, lots of cash, no success, how good is that!

 

[finbarr]

9-5 work with no weekend shifts, 4 weeks annual leave, an RDO per month, LSL, sick leave is freakin' awesome. Being able to knock off each day at roughly the same time and not even have to think about work until i get up the next morning is the best. Holly Ransom can **** off.

 

[afl2004]

9-5 work with no weekend shifts, 4 weeks annual leave, an RDO per month, LSL, sick leave is freakin' awesome. Being able to knock off each day at roughly the same time and not even have to think about work until i get up the next morning is the best. Holly Ransom can fu** off.

Yeah I do 2 to 10 pm Monday to Friday it's pretty good

 

[PA88]

9-5 work with no weekend shifts, 4 weeks annual leave, an RDO per month, LSL, sick leave is freakin' awesome. Being able to knock off each day at roughly the same time and not even have to think about work until i get up the next morning is the best. Holly Ransom can fu** off.

I wish I had this bolded bit.

 

[backtozero]

I dont wanna listen to anyone that doesn't have kids tell me how their work/leisure/sleep balance is out of wack.

 

[finbarr]

I wish I had this bolded bit.

Dude, it's so good.

 

[Steve Dore]

I don't know that much about her contributions to Port but the article she's written I think is good. This is the stuff we need to look at in the changing world of work. The 8-8-8 nine to five crap is archaic and massively sub-optimal for most jobs in 2021.

Yeah, Holly is spot on. I'm going to tell my clients that my optimal energy time is 4:00am to 7:00am and 9:30pm to 11:00pm. If they need my help those are the only times they are to contact me and any required meetings are to be scheduled during those times. The fact that their customers expect them to operate during those archaic 9-5 business hours is not my problem and they should adjust their hours for their optimal energy times as long as they coincide with mine. This is the future going forward.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Yeah, Holly is spot on. I'm going to tell my clients that my optimal energy time is 4:00am to 7:00am and 9:30pm to 11:00pm. If they need my help those are the only times they are to contact me and any required meetings are to be scheduled during those times. The fact that their customers expect them to operate during those archaic 9-5 business hours is not my problem and they should adjust their hours for their optimal energy times as long as they coincide with mine. This is the future going forward.

Lol obviously its not perfectly suitable for every role. Its something to think about not an exact prescription.

 

[backtozero]

What Holly is saying in that article is kind of correct and she's credited the source for her theory, which is here:

The Ideal Work Schedule, as Determined by Circadian Rhythms

Why you should answer all your emails at 3PM.

hbr.org

The problem is that the ideas she's repeating relates to the idea that managers should be more accepting of their workers individual energy levels. Holly has tried to translate that to her own working life which was being pushed by her own desire to work all the time, not because she's on the clock.
It doesn't really translate all that well. If this is the kind of disruptive stuff she's trying to convince CEO's of, they'd be better off just reading that guy's studies instead.

 

[bomberclifford]

What Holly is saying in that article is kind of correct and she's credited the source for her theory, which is here:

The Ideal Work Schedule, as Determined by Circadian Rhythms

Why you should answer all your emails at 3PM.

hbr.org

The problem is that the ideas she's repeating relates to the idea that managers should be more accepting of their workers individual energy levels. Holly has tried to translate that to her own working life which was being pushed by her own desire to work all the time, not because she's on the clock.
It doesn't really translate all that well. If this is the kind of disruptive stuff she's trying to convince CEO's of, they'd be better off just reading that guy's studies instead.

Which they likely already had done before her article was even written.
Circadian Rhythms (or biorhythms as they used to be called) are nothing knew.

 

[edgie]

I dont wanna listen to anyone that doesn't have kids tell me how their work/leisure/sleep balance is out of wack.

Farkin still have mates who tell me how they're tired after a big weekend.

Mate.

I've had big weekends and backed up with work on no sleep.

Hangovers. Sickness. Still drunk. Tired. Sore. Injured. ****ing death warmed up. Spewing my guts up til its empty. Pissed in my pants at work.

But it's a walk in the park compared to now.

There's no tired like parent tired.

I'm past death warmed up. I am zombified.

You,
You are not tired. You are fine and dandy.

Now Ransom lady, come tell my daughter that my optimal energy diary is different to hers. And my work. And the footy league.

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[Stewart2Austin Reborn]

****ing parents trying to tell me their irrational "you arent tired because I've produced offspring" rhetoric like I haven't been stoned and paraletic for three weeks

 

[Contested Marx]

Hells Bells if I only worked when I was at my optimum then I'd get nothing done

it's like 2 hours a week, tops

 

[El_Scorcho]

I work shift work, and I love it overall. Every shift has it's strengths and weaknesses, and I wouldn't want to do any of them permanently, but the rotation works well for me.

And my kids sleep pretty well most of the time so just get yours to do that IMO.

 

[Del165198]

Lel that Holly random article is pretty shit. Just paragraph after paragraph of wanky business speak that just means "we're not all productive 100% of the time"
No shit, everyone knows this.

 

[Steve Dore]

Lel that Holly random article is pretty sh*t. Just paragraph after paragraph of wanky business speak that just means "we're not all productive 100% of the time"
No sh*t, everyone knows this.

No, no. This is a new synergistic paradigm that only an emergent disruptor like Holly could energistically envisioneer.

 

[DaTBird187]

Lel that Holly random article is pretty sh*t. Just paragraph after paragraph of wanky business speak that just means "we're not all productive 100% of the time"
No sh*t, everyone knows this.

It's a load of

 

[Duck Farmer]

Holly will change her mind when her barristas, airline pilots, emergency callout plumbers etc. start working to their energy levels rather than the man's schedule.

Some things are easier if you're the CEO of a one person consultancy business.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Yeah, Holly is spot on. I'm going to tell my clients that my optimal energy time is 4:00am to 7:00am and 9:30pm to 11:00pm. If they need my help those are the only times they are to contact me and any required meetings are to be scheduled during those times. The fact that their customers expect them to operate during those archaic 9-5 business hours is not my problem and they should adjust their hours for their optimal energy times as long as they coincide with mine. This is the future going forward.

lol - everyone trying to organise an Outlook/Teams meeting for a group of people by finding a free half hour slot in their calendars knows it is almost impossible even if they're working 9 to 5. I imagine the finding the intersection of peak energy levels would result in 6:13 to 6:37 pm on the Tuesday after the vernal equinox (southern hemisphere).

On the plus side, maybe she can lobby Gil to start all Port matches 20 mins into the first quarter so we can avoid that period where we're not switched on from the start.

 

[edgie]

It's a load of

Are you sexually objectifying Holly?

 

[simba_]

Are you sexually objectifying Holly?

take an emoji course bro

 

[edgie]

take an emoji course bro

Are you Holly?

 

[simba_]

i am Holly, yes

 

[edgie]

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