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The top compo should be pick 11 mid first round pick after all non finals teams have drafted . Then the best compo a top 8 team can get is end of first round . This would make teams try and keep players whilst also getting reasonable compo !

How about a pick after everyone has drafted once, therefore not ****ing over every other club not invloved in the trade?
 
Well the AFL needs to stop linking the FA compo pick to the position of the club losing that FA in the draft. So lets say Frawley is worth a first round - instead of making it right after Melbournes first round pick (no. 3) just make it middle-late first round, say around pick 11. That way the AFL has a LOT more flexibility and it ends the ridiculous system where Frawley is worth no. 3 and Buddy was worth no. 18 (IIRC)
 

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Although you'd probably say Pick 3 & Kennedy & 20 v Judd & the Armfield pick is close to getting 2 top 3 picks.
Kennedy was a very unproven and injury prone second year KPP, not the gun we now know he is.

I don't think the Judd deal was as good for us (on pure face value at the time) as getting picks 2 and 3 for Dangerfield. It turned out well simply because Carlton have stank and Judd hasn't been able to help, plus Kennedy has turned into such a legend (plus Carlton could really do with him now)
 
I assumed before it came in that the player was free to move to the club of his choice, not that the club receiving him would be able to improve their list for free.

I know.

It's stupid.

Do teams in the NBA get a pity compensation pick because they lose a player who is a free agent?

No, not even the 30th best team.
 
Well the AFL needs to stop linking the FA compo pick to the position of the club losing that FA in the draft. So lets say Frawley is worth a first round - instead of making it right after Melbournes first round pick (no. 3) just make it middle-late first round, say around pick 11. That way the AFL has a LOT more flexibility and it ends the ridiculous system where Frawley is worth no. 3 and Buddy was worth no. 18 (IIRC)

Have all the unbiased teams - ie. not part of the transaction - submit to the AFL where they think a fair compensation pick would lie and work on it from there.

Or just scrap it altogether, isn't a spare 500K in the salary cap good enough?
 
Kennedy was a very unproven and injury prone second year KPP, not the gun we now know he is.

I don't think the Judd deal was as good for us (on pure face value at the time) as getting picks 2 and 3 for Dangerfield. It turned out well simply because Carlton have stank and Judd hasn't been able to help, plus Kennedy has turned into such a legend (plus Carlton could really do with him now)

I think what Kennedy has turned out to be is what was promised - a top line KPP forward.
 
I think what Kennedy has turned out to be is what was promised - a top line KPP forward.
Plenty of KPFs taken in the top 10 of every draft that are absolute flops. No promises ever.
 
So we've been linked to Varcoe from Geelong!

Not sure why we would consider it unless it was for very cheap. Varcoe has what 3 flags, has been shopped around for two years now and really is he going to be that hungry to succeed?

More like a superannuation contract.

I'd rather use a 3rd rounder on a young bloke who has slid due to one perceived flaw or injury.
 
Sheesh, can people stop talking about trading for Varcoe, it's really starting to scare me.

He's a hamster, who has the trick of turning invisible during games. We already just signed someone else up to do that, Josh Hill. So **** off



Re Waterman - Ignoring the fanboy pump ups he gets, it's still costing us next to nothing for him. If he turns out to be anything like ER has said all year he could be, then it will be a steal. But if he doesn't come good it's not the end of the world. Just putting things in perspective. Personally i have my doubts. I think his manchild size at a lower level has helped him out, and will be interesting to see how he goes against men and if his strengths are still there.
 

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I thought the idea behind Free Agency was that it was 'free'? No one would give up pick 3 for Frawley, it is such a flawed system.
The "free" in free agency has nothing to do with costs or compensation.

It simply means that players are unrestricted in their capacity to leave their club and choose where they wish to go to.

A less sexy but possibly more accurate title would be "Unrestricted Autonomy"
 
Why are we trading for Varcoe, srs.

If WC give up a second rounder I will be appalled.
Was against the idea at first, but if we can get him for a 3rd rounder or something, would happily take him. Would add some outside run and some flair and creativity around the forward line. He is not overly old and has been apart of an extremely successful team, he can't be any worse than Wellingham!?
 
So we've been linked to Varcoe from Geelong!

Not sure why we would consider it unless it was for very cheap. Varcoe has what 3 flags, has been shopped around for two years now and really is he going to be that hungry to succeed?

More like a superannuation contract.

I'd rather use a 3rd rounder on a young bloke who has slid due to one perceived flaw or injury.

Agree totally.

Jarrod Pickett
Connor Mendaue
Naika Cockatoo
Oleg Markov
Jarrod Garlett
Brendon Abbott
Mitchell McGovern

Any of the above I would prefer to Varcoe.
Iam assuming Geelong will try push Sinclair for Varcoe, would rather trade Sinclair for another draft pick.
Or keep him on list.

Carter and Wilson need to be traded if anyone wants them or delisted, now we get Waterman for
our last pick. It means we need more picks in this draft.
 
Was against the idea at first, but if we can get him for a 3rd rounder or something, would happily take him. Would add some outside run and some flair and creativity around the forward line. He is not overly old and has been apart of an extremely successful team, he can't be any worse than Wellingham!?
He is very low production, in one of the top teams in the comp.

Could only play in a side like Geelong.
 
I wouldn't trade gaff. But the point is right, we can't beat atop eight side but all our players are too good to trade or too good for varcoe etc.

I just can't fathom how we can't beat top sides yet our players are all guns, it just doesn't make sense.
Is it a case of people calling them guns, or more a case of people not wanting to trade them out for spuds? I'm not sure exchanging Gaff for Varcoe and Smedts gets us any higher up the ladder.
 
Did see a couple of floaters off the right foot in the Waterman highlights package... Is that accurate or does he have a decent right boot?
Usually kicks low and hard, but times kicks well and can kick softly or too advantage.

Just because a kick is a floater doesn't mean it isn't well placed.
 
Was against the idea at first, but if we can get him for a 3rd rounder or something, would happily take him. Would add some outside run and some flair and creativity around the forward line. He is not overly old and has been apart of an extremely successful team, he can't be any worse than Wellingham!?

Let's not measure success by comparing players to Wellingham. Nearly everyone was better than him this year but yeah a third rounder would be fine...
 
I was delighted to hear that we got Waterman for cheap as chips today - I'm not sure if that's a pat on the back to us or an indictment of the 17 other clubs' recruiting departments.

However, this Varcoe business concerns me, what would we see in him? I don't know if he'll add that much to our side, he's too inconsistent. I'd prefer drafting to taking him.
 
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