Mega Thread Delist/Trade/Draft Supermegaultrathread - Now Starts A Long Offseason

[Play by Numbers]

Yeah I know all the reasons being listed, it still seems a MASSIVE discrepancy. In modern day football you'd think its not that easy to pull the wool over every other team's eyes.

Hopefully it is the case though and he ends up a gun for us.

It is though.

Look how good Wingard has turned out to be, yet why didn't GWS take him? It's because he told them he would return to Adelaide. I think WC and Waterman have made their intentions known and no club is willing to risk a pick.

 

[Play by Numbers]

I only wanted Waterman when other clubs wanted him. Now.. Meh.

This is it. Many would be more excited had other clubs bid their first round, regardless of him having played the same.

 

[BartBart]

Danger is worth 2 top 3 picks.

Not even Judd was worth that and he was a better player than Dangerfield.

Although you'd probably say Pick 3 & Kennedy & 20 v Judd & the Armfield pick is close to getting 2 top 3 picks.

 

[Play by Numbers]

Probably about right, being a pretty fair trade,.... although Geelong all the same will have to wait'n see if it's just that.

Would be an awful result for WC.

 

[BartBart]

Draft order at the moment - although they haven't included the F/S-Academy picks that have been committed to.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-06/full-2014-draft-order

 

[squashface]

Are we expecting Waterman to play many games next year?

 

[wadistance]

Although you'd probably say Pick 3 & Kennedy & 20 v Judd & the Armfield pick is close to getting 2 top 3 picks.

if we had picked up Rance or Ward with pick 3 - then yes. Picking Danger would have won

 

[eaglespremiers]

Are we expecting Waterman to play many games next year?

Hopefully 25.

 

[BartBart]

Are we expecting Waterman to play many games next year?

Yeah - I would say quite a few at East Perth.

re: free agency - wouldn't the best way to go it to remove picks from the team receiving the player. At the moment they get something for barely nothing (i.e. they like all other clubs might have their pick moved down one)

 

[Public Enemy No1]

Was Waterman a top 20 in the draft ? (if not for f/s)

Just don't know much about him

 

[Play by Numbers]

Are we expecting Waterman to play many games next year?

It's a balance between shedding excess kg's and maintaining his groins. I'd rather we not let him go overboard so expect him to maybe get a game late.

Don't get me wrong, I reckon he could play early, but why overwork him and risk it.

 

[squashface]

I thought the idea behind Free Agency was that it was 'free'? No one would give up pick 3 for Frawley, it is such a flawed system.

 

[BartBart]

I assumed before it came in that the player was free to move to the club of his choice, not that the club receiving him would be able to improve their list for free.

 

[Shoei]

I thought the idea behind Free Agency was that it was 'free'? No one would give up pick 3 for Frawley, it is such a flawed system.

It's technically "free" for the club getting the player and the player moving, it doesn't cost them a draft pick and the player can choose where they want to go.

The cost is paid by all the other clubs getting shunted around the draft.

It's stupid that Melbourne are rewarded a pick they would never get for a player that wants to leave their club.

 

[94_Eagles]

I'd love for a club to troll another in F/S bidding by saying, for example "Yes, we'll bid pick 1 on Waterman... hehe suckers" therefore forcing WC to use their first first rounder on Waterman (even though clearly not worth that).

They'd be all like

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I'd love for a club to troll another in F/S bidding by saying, for example "Yes, we'll bid pick 1 on Waterman... hehe suckers" therefore forcing WC to use their first first rounder on Waterman (even though clearly not worth that).

That face would change when we make them take him with Pick 1.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I'd love for a club to troll another in F/S bidding by saying, for example "Yes, we'll bid pick 1 on Waterman... hehe suckers" therefore forcing WC to use their first first rounder on Waterman (even though clearly not worth that).

They'd be all like

They'd be all like "nar" and then the other stupid club would waste a first round pick.

 

[pantskyle]

You do Know they lost an established good player tho to the # 1 team .. Nobody jumping up and down saying Hawthorn have preferential treatment getting a player for nothing

If Frawley was up for trade Melb would get a second rounder.

This is the AFL being charitable.

 

[94_Eagles]

That face would change when we make them take him with Pick 1.

Indeed.

It would be hilarous all round.

 

[BartBart]

I have added in the f/s - academy players (noting that Alec Waterman (WCE f/s), Josh Clayton (Brisb f/s), Jeremy Finlayson (GWS - academy) are in an unknown position as their team's last picks.
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1. St Kilda
2. Melbourne
3. Melbourne (first-round free-agency compensation pick received for James Frawley)
4. Greater Western Sydney
5. Brisbane Lions
6. Western Bulldogs
7. Carlton
8. Gold Coast
9. Collingwood - Darcy Moore (f/s)
10. Adelaide
11. West Coast
12. Richmond
13. Fremantle
14. Geelong
15. Gold Coast (received from Geelong via a trade in 2012; originally received by the Cats as compensation for Gary Ablett)
16. North Melbourne
17. Port Adelaide
18. Sydney Swans - Isaac Heeney (academy player)
19. Hawthorn

20. Essendon (first selection moved to end of first round as part of supplements scandal penalty)
21. Greater Western Sydney (received from Gold Coast via a trade in 2012; traded to the Suns by the Brisbane Lions in 2010; originally received by the Lions as compensation for Jared Brennan)

22. St Kilda
23. Melbourne
24. Greater Western Sydney - Jack Steele (academy player)
25. Brisbane Lions
26. Western Bulldogs
27. Western Bulldogs (second-round free-agency compensation pick received for Shaun Higgins)
28. Carlton
29. Gold Coast
30. Collingwood
31. Adelaide
32. West Coast
33. Richmond
34. Fremantle
35. Geelong
36. North Melbourne
37. Port Adelaide
38. Sydney Swans - Jack Hiscox (academy player)
39. Hawthorn

40. St Kilda
41. Melbourne - Billy Stretch (f/s)
42. Greater Western Sydney
43. Brisbane Lions - Liam Dawson (academy player)
44. Western Bulldogs
45. Carlton
46. Gold Coast
47. Collingwood
48. Gold Coast (received from West Coast via a trade in 2013; traded to the Eagles by Collingwood in 2010; originally received by the Magpies as compensation for Josh Fraser)
49. Adelaide
50. West Coast
51. Richmond
52. Essendon
53. Fremantle
54. Geelong
55. North Melbourne
56. Port Adelaide
57. Sydney Swans
58. Hawthorn

59. St Kilda
60. Melbourne
61. Greater Western Sydney
62. Brisbane Lions - Harris Andrews (academy player)
63. Western Bulldogs - Zaine Cordy (f/s)
64. Carlton
65. Gold Coast
66. Collingwood
67. Adelaide
68. West Coast
69. Richmond
70. Essendon
71. Fremantle
72. Geelong
73. North Melbourne
74. Port Adelaide
75. Sydney Swans - Abe Davis (academy player)
76. Hawthorn

 

[94_Eagles]

If Frawley was up for trade Melb would get a second rounder.

This is the AFL being charitable.

I think the consensus would be a mid to late first rounder.

 

[94_Eagles]

Hopefully 25.

Let's not get too crazy.

I'd say 26 is more likely.

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

Scrap it or make the compensation far less valuable. End of 2nd/3rd round.

The top compo should be pick 11 mid first round pick after all non finals teams have drafted . Then the best compo a top 8 team can get is end of first round . This would make teams try and keep players whilst also getting reasonable compo !

 

[94_Eagles]

If we de-list more players before the draft do we still take Waterman with our last - and lower pick?

 

[Play by Numbers]

Why are we trading for Varcoe, srs.

If WC give up a second rounder I will be appalled.