List Mgmt. Delisting and drafting is almost as fun as trading: The trade and draft megathread

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Then we'll just have to offer even more (in terms of picks). We've made a commitment to Kelly to help bring him home right now, to help out with his family situation and play for us. You can't just walk away from that, and spending another year in Geelong would be the worst thing IMO.
I disagree. We need a limit, 20 and 22 is already overs. I'd happily keep it and move on. Kelly should be mad with Geelong, not us. I'm sure he'll just move on and play good footy though, then come back next year.
 

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I disagree. We need a limit, 20 and 22 is already overs. I'd happily keep it and move on. Kelly should be mad with Geelong, not us. I'm sure he'll just move on and play good footy though, then come back next year.
We are definitely a victim of our own success.
No opposition team wants to see WCE get stronger.
We must remember that most of the East coast media is made up of former Melbourne based players who have always seen us as a threat. We can’t expect to have too much positive coverage from them.
We are the most successful club in the modern AFL era and can expect the negatives to ramp up over the next couple of seasons.
Be content to look at our four premiership cups and continue to do what we do best.
 
Everyone seems to go to hawks dont get it

I thought McGinnity getting games due to having compromising pictures of Woosha was A-level game, but apparently not so. Hawks have gone to the next level, for they seem to have dirt on everyone in the AFL. No team cries when Hawthorn goes in dry at the trade table; even the silence from the AFL, who green light such trades, is conspicuous. The media?... (crickets).
 
If the Kelly trade falls through, there's still live pick trading. 20 and 22 could net us a high pick on draft night(s) (which we'd then use on a new player rather than Kelly obviously), but depending on how the early picks go this is definitely a live option for us.

Would be somewhat hilarious if we ended up with Geelong's pick 12 in this scenario.
 
Looks likely GWS will have three first round picks come tomorrow arvo - 9 (shiel), 11 (Lobb + something back) and their current 14 (?)

20 + 22 for 11 could be the play. Just depends how long all these deals drag our for Shiel, Lobb, Hogan and Neale. Kelly could be the last to get done.

I would hope we would another 2nd rounder as well, late 20s early 30s, given our 2 picks points wise equals pick 6.


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I'm talking about it more from the clubs point of view. We've made a commitment to Kelly, we've told him we'll bring him home and help him out of the situation he's currently in. Why else would he nominate us? He's put his faith in West Coast, and we've got to deliver.

I agree with that but there is a limit. Geelong have pushed us right to that limit. We prob thought they wouldn’t act the way they have. They dont want us to get better and deliberately stalling this trade. I’m at the point of we say no more and move on. We can’t deliver to a club that has shut the door before we even knock. Nothing we can do and I hope Kelly sits out a season and we help him find employment in Perth for a year.
 

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I feel like Geelong have deliberately strung along WC with no intention of trading Kelly and holding up WC during trade week.

Imagine if WC had gone into the period knowing Geelong would point blank refuse, having the currency of 20, and 21 with people like Scully, Hall etc. looking for a trade. I wonder if this has been a strategic move to stuff a competitor.
There’s no one that would come to west coast in a trade that we would really have gone after instead. Think club, once it got hickey to help out in the ruck, was happy to get Kelly or go to the draft.
 
In before Kelly stays at geelong and west coast pick up two of Ian hill, Sydney stack, or Jordan Clarke and add Cameron later.

Add Kelly next year and the following year have Bigfooty posters complain West Coast “hid” hill, stack or Clarke
Jordan Clark bolted up to top 10 according to Cal Twomey :(

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POS: Half-back
Ht 182cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 16/10/00
From Claremont/Western Australia
September ranking: 17

Clark is coming with a rush. The West Australian's season gained momentum after winning All Australian honours at the under-18 championships, and he played some solid senior footy for Claremont late in the year to push himself into the top 10 of some clubs' draft boards. He's a good user of the ball off half-back and is given the ball to make things happen, and the former elite junior cricketer finished eighth in the 2km time trial last week.
 
Jordan Clark bolted up to top 10 according to Cal Twomey :(

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POS: Half-back
Ht 182cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 16/10/00
From Claremont/Western Australia
September ranking: 17

Clark is coming with a rush. The West Australian's season gained momentum after winning All Australian honours at the under-18 championships, and he played some solid senior footy for Claremont late in the year to push himself into the top 10 of some clubs' draft boards. He's a good user of the ball off half-back and is given the ball to make things happen, and the former elite junior cricketer finished eighth in the 2km time trial last week.
Anyone got a spare tent and a girlfriend the can lend us for a weekend?
 
You don't think WC would have pursued another player like Lobb?

The Kelly deal wouldn't have held us up in the sense that we wouldn't have been looking at other players. There would have been multiple balls in the air, one of which was Geelong.

Lobb said he wanted to go to Freo, so we stayed away because anyone who nominated Freo as their club of preference has rocks in their head (though realistically we don't need another forward clogging our salary cap when we have a few promising kids in the wings).

No one else asked to come to our club. The trade team would have looked at other players putting their hand up for trade and likely decided that we either didn't need them, or couldn't afford them.

If Geelong wont play ball then we'll go to the draft and pitch a contract to Kelly next year if we still rate is output. He's a "nice to have" player, but not required. He would most likely be competing for Masten's spot in the 22, and contrary to popular opinion (even my own I have to admit) Masten hasn't been that bad this year. Dare I say, adequate?
 
Anyone got a spare tent and a girlfriend the can lend us for a weekend?

Jordan Clark bolted up to top 10 according to Cal Twomey :(

10PhantomFormGuide.jpg


POS: Half-back
Ht 182cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 16/10/00
From Claremont/Western Australia
September ranking: 17

Clark is coming with a rush. The West Australian's season gained momentum after winning All Australian honours at the under-18 championships, and he played some solid senior footy for Claremont late in the year to push himself into the top 10 of some clubs' draft boards. He's a good user of the ball off half-back and is given the ball to make things happen, and the former elite junior cricketer finished eighth in the 2km time trial last week.
 
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Jordan Clark bolted up to top 10 according to Cal Twomey :(

10PhantomFormGuide.jpg


POS: Half-back
Ht 182cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 16/10/00
From Claremont/Western Australia
September ranking: 17

Clark is coming with a rush. The West Australian's season gained momentum after winning All Australian honours at the under-18 championships, and he played some solid senior footy for Claremont late in the year to push himself into the top 10 of some clubs' draft boards. He's a good user of the ball off half-back and is given the ball to make things happen, and the former elite junior cricketer finished eighth in the 2km time trial last week.
I can see Pick 20 written all over him.
 
Depends on picks, costs, etc.

Have to see basically.

This, plus requirements. If we see a mass of retirements next year we could end up prioritising established stop-gap players like we have with Lycett.

If im being biased though I think I want Coniglio more.
 
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