Didak: No case to answer

[doppleganger]

It's because they are not even remotely similar at all. If Gia had done what Didak did today I would be bracing for a suspension.

i think that didak may miss a week as he has actually been reported for "engaging in rough play"......not charging or striking

it was a cracking bump, lined him up and u can see his entire side collides with scotland, with minor contact to the head at the point of his shoulder.

dont like seeing any player rubbed out for this kind of thing, especially as it is "rough play" which could mean anything. perhaps goldie realised that he prob wouldn't have been suspended for charging or striking so he just dropped this all encompassing "rough play" chrage on didak.

 

[mediumsizered]

So if a player runs hard for the ball and someone slips into their elbow then they should get reported?

Really clutching at straws now, aren't we?

 

[eddiesmith]

Really clutching at straws now, aren't we?

No, I was just wondering why a player who attempts to lay a fair bump is supposed to be given the longest suspension of the season after his opponent slips causing the head high contact with the shoulder

Also curious how accidental contact is worse than a deliberate strike to the head

 

[doppleganger]

You can't even compare the two. Gia and Kosi had a head clash. Didak made contact to Scotland's head with the shoulder, arm, elbow, whatever. Is reportable every time. It would be irresponsible of an umpire not to report it and it would be irresponsible of the match review panel not to give a suspension. It is obvious from some of the posts on here from Collingwood supporters, that they are very worried about the outcome of this one, and they should be.

gia went to bump kosiand the main impact was body to body with a glancing head clash and kosi head slammed into the ground. Didak lined scotland up and went straight down the middle of his body with the point of his shoulder getting scotland in the face. If he was reported for charging i reckon he would get off, but it is for "engaging in rough play" does anybody even know how that charge works?? ie is it a points system??

im worried because you dont know what will happen at the tribunal, and "rough play" could mean anything

 

[deck]

Jamie Charman got 1 week for a very similar incident on Rocca earlier in the year. I'd be dissapointed if Didaks was looked differently just because Scotland went off injured.

 

[Paul Kersey]

One of the best pressure players in the competition.

Crap call.

Constantly shirks physical contests. Usually kicks players too. Will come undone and it will be great.

 

[eddiesmith]

gia went to bump kosiand the main impact was body to body with a glancing head clash and kosi head slammed into the ground. Didak lined scotland up and went straight down the middle of his body with the point of his shoulder getting scotland in the face. If he was reported for charging i reckon he would get off, but it is for "engaging in rough play" does anybody even know how that charge works?? ie is it a points system??

im worried because you dont know what will happen at the tribunal, and "rough play" could mean anything

Its unduly rough play which means unnecasary contact, now if jumping off the ground and giving a bloke brain damage who doesnt have the ball isnt deemed unnecasary contact then Didak should be fine

Its a free kick, nothing else

 

[GoBackToVFL]

charging

high contact 2 points
high impact 3 points
reckless 2 points
in play 0 points
7 points = level 4 offence = 425 points

+82.5 residual points = 507.5 points = 5 weeks

IF he pleads guilty (thats a big if)

-25% guilty plea = 380 points = 3 weeks

 

[eddiesmith]

charging

high contact 2 points
high impact 3 points
reckless 2 points
in play 0 points
7 points = level 4 offence = 425 points

+82.5 residual points = 507.5 points = 5 weeks

IF he pleads guilty (thats a big if)

-25% guilty plea = 380 points = 3 weeks

You got it completely wrong on the first line because what DIdak did is not charging, we would take it to the tribunal and he would be playing on Sunday due to match review panel incompetence

 

[GoBackToVFL]

Jamie Charman got 1 week for a very similar incident on Rocca earlier in the year. I'd be dissapointed if Didaks was looked differently just because Scotland went off injured.

impact is higher and he has 82.5 residual points, so add two weeks to that and it will be fair

 

[Marklar_33]

It was a stunning hit, but if the match review panel want to be consistant, he'd have to get one or possibly two (I don't know about his past record).

Did Medhurst's hit on Houlihan earlier in the season get anything? They were pretty much similar.

But no one ever said the match review panel wanted to be consistent

 

[GoBackToVFL]

You got it completely wrong on the first line because what DIdak did is not charging, we would take it to the tribunal and he would be playing on Sunday due to match review panel incompetence

like last time he took it to the tribunal? ROFL

 

[GoBackToVFL]

this is a similar case from earlier in the year...

Beau Waters, West Coast, has been charged with a Level Four engaging in rough conduct offence against Robert Copeland, Brisbane Lions, during the fourth quarter of the Round Five match between West Coast and the Brisbane Lions, played at Subiaco on Saturday April 29, 2006.
He can accept a two-game suspension with an early plea. The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), high impact (three points), in play (no points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, which relates to a Level Four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match suspension. He has 56.25 residual points on his record, increasing his points tally to 381.25 points. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 285.94 points and a two-match suspension.

if the rough conduct charge stays (instead of charging which i posted before) it would be 407.5 points = 4 weeks

IF he pleads guilty, 305 points = 3 weeks

 

[eddiesmith]

this is a similar case from earlier in the year...

Beau Waters, West Coast, has been charged with a Level Four engaging in rough conduct offence against Robert Copeland, Brisbane Lions, during the fourth quarter of the Round Five match between West Coast and the Brisbane Lions, played at Subiaco on Saturday April 29, 2006.
He can accept a two-game suspension with an early plea. The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), high impact (three points), in play (no points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, which relates to a Level Four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match suspension. He has 56.25 residual points on his record, increasing his points tally to 381.25 points. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 285.94 points and a two-match suspension.

if the rough conduct charge stays (instead of charging which i posted before) it would be 407.5 points = 4 weeks

IF he pleads guilty, 305 points = 3 weeks

Really clutching at straws if you want to compare what Didak did to what Waters did, **** you are one biased prick

 

[deck]

impact is higher and he has 82.5 residual points, so add two weeks to that and it will be fair

How was Didaks higher? Rocca was hit in the head by Charman the only difference was Rocca wasn't seriously hurt. And it is 59 points Didak has from the other week. If Didak gets different activation points than Charman then Collingwood have something to winge about.

 

[Grimreepah]

Rocca was hit in the head by Charman the only difference was Rocca wasn't seriously hurt.

Charman hit Rocca in the chest, not the head.

 

[deck]

this is a similar case from earlier in the year...

Beau Waters, West Coast, has been charged with a Level Four engaging in rough conduct offence against Robert Copeland, Brisbane Lions, during the fourth quarter of the Round Five match between West Coast and the Brisbane Lions, played at Subiaco on Saturday April 29, 2006.
He can accept a two-game suspension with an early plea. The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), high impact (three points), in play (no points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, which relates to a Level Four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match suspension. He has 56.25 residual points on his record, increasing his points tally to 381.25 points. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 285.94 points and a two-match suspension.

if the rough conduct charge stays (instead of charging which i posted before) it would be 407.5 points = 4 weeks

IF he pleads guilty, 305 points = 3 weeks

Copeland was bent over with his head over the ball. Scotland was standing upright and moving with the ball.

 

[deck]

Charman hit Rocca in the chest, not the head.

No Rocca was hit in the head as he slipped just as Charman made the hit. If he had not made head contact he would not of had a case to answer. You are allowed to make body contact when a player has the ball.

 

[jonesy86]

if dids gets offered 2 weeks i'd take it

at least we have a couple of handy replacements in buckley, tarrant and thomas ready to come back next week

 

[Grimreepah]

No Rocca was hit in the head as he slipped just as Charman made the hit. If he had not made head contact he would not of had a case to answer. You are allowed to make body contact when a player has the ball.

Simply not true. That's why the Lions were up in arms, because he didn't even make head high contact. The bump is now illegal.

 

[deck]

Simply not true. That's why the Lions were up in arms, because he didn't even make head high contact. The bump is now illegal.

It was classed as head high contact by the match review panel. Similar incidents in the last few weeks have been cleared.

 

[magpie_militia]

Unfortunately Dids probably will cop a suspension. If he does go it will be a real shame because this was one of the best games of the year, and a major reason for that was the toughness of the players.

Bring back the hip and shoulder!!!

 

[GoBackToVFL]

How was Didaks higher? Rocca was hit in the head by Charman the only difference was Rocca wasn't seriously hurt. And it is 59 points Didak has from the other week. If Didak gets different activation points than Charman then Collingwood have something to winge about.

gee i dunno, maybe the fact that he was knocked out might indicate it was high impact.

plus IMO, it was reckless rather than negligent, as he really did line him up

and it was 62 points before his appeal failed and he lost the 25% reduction

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Scotland should enter in the Olympics for diving. Nothing in it.

Now why doesn't this sort of dilusion surprise me?

 

[deck]

gee i dunno, maybe the fact that he was knocked out might indicate it was high impact.

plus IMO, it was reckless rather than negligent, as he really did line him up

Jamie Charmans was the exact same and might have been worse.

http://www.thesundaymail.com.au/extras/lionsjune3/jamiecharmanandanthonyroccaclash.html