Traded Dion Prestia [traded to Richmond with pick 24 for pick 6 and 2017 second rounder]

[pockets75]

Those happened to be the last two seasons. Nice stat though.

Played 181 games in a row. Yes, I agree that his last 2 seasons have been shortened by injury, but I don't think Deledio fits the definition of an injury prone player. Have a nice night.

 

[Al Kemy]

Caddy for Lids..
Ones a a 24yr old bull

One is a 30 yr old injury prone

It's not a straight swap ever..
Look at Mitchell for pick 88 after winning a BF
Lewis is going for a third rd pick..

And what do the tigers want for Lids. A 10-15 pick/player lol

injury prone. Hello O'Meara and Prestia, oh thats different im sure.. Too old, right, he is the age the Hawks champs were before their three in a row

 

[The 747]

Yeah, pick 6

 

[Frank Grimes]

https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator#1,|Prestia,4

I'd question a calculator on the internet and how it comes to those values. The fact that it rates moving from pick 4 to pick 1 is close to being in line with moving from pick 30 to pick 6 tells me it's broken.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

The price of goods are determined by what one is willing to pay for them. You can set a price as high / low as you like. Means ef all if someone isn't going to fork out $$ for them.

Prestia is out of contract and has told the club he is out. Very few deals of this type (if any) do not get done.

I'm happy for the club to part with 6 but I want something in return. And I don't want a swap of 2nd round picks as has been discussed on here and in the media. Prestia was selected at 9 in his year and has shown that he is top 10 from that year...when on the park. GC lose currency because he has been injured last couple of years. Tiges lose currency because they are adamant they want him. If this was played on outside of the media, they would not have to give up as much. Too late for that now.

Like it or not, you've offered him an A grade contract, do you really think when push comes to shove you won't part with pick 6 when your club thinks that highly of the bloke? IMO you will, it's a fair trade, **** this up and see how many other talented youngsters nominate Richmond as their prefered club.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

That's rubbish, majority of Suns fans are prepared to had back a pick in the thirtys.

Not because he isn't worth 6 outright but to get the deal done. We can't be wasting 2 weeks on 1 trade because Richmond are incapable of making a decision for the fear they could make a mistake.

I wouldn't be suprised if when Dion said yes the Tigers went really, You want to come to us, your not teasing, really and then went OMG let's over think this to death to the point we **** it up

your fans may be, but your club isnt

GC rejected sending 30 back, and a considering a swap of 27 for 22 as a reluctant compromise. how exactly is RFC indecisive, as the very proposal you're saying they should accept was rejected by the GC.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

How about Richmond get off the high horse and trade lids and Ellis
And get a decent pick in the door.

Rather then dragging your feet thinking GC will come around.

Be proactive like the Hawks you might actually get somewhere

we are trading lids, and had discussions regarding trading Ellis (plus jack, cotchin, Edwards, Miles, Lennon, Conca, and McIntosh)

issue for lids is he doesn't want to leave victoria. to get a pick you would want, only two clubs are a viable option. Kangas and the dogs. dogs have no cap space, and the kangas are moving away from being an old folks home

ellis is no chance to get a first round off his 2016 season, and frankly would struggle to get a second this season

even if we got another second, with you and GWS stockpiling first round picks, we have no real options to trade it up with the vickery pick. you are both trading up yourselves, so you have no interest in trading down

the most proactive thing we can do, and the best for our club, is walk and get a kid in the draft at 6

 

[tiltraise]

Pick 6 is a nice spot in this draft and I doubt the Tigers will want to give it up.

I also dont think its an ideal pick for GC unless they specifically need it for another trade.

I expect this trade to perhaps go something along these lines

Rich
In: 30 + Prestia
Out: 46 + 2017 Rich 1R

This leaves Tigers well placed in this draft with 6, 27, 30 + 64 allowing for a gun at 6 and perhaps tallish options at 27 and/or 30.

Suns bank a 1R for next year and get 46 which can be ontraded for an Achee/Witts type.

 

[Iva Bigun]

your fans may be, but your club isnt

GC rejected sending 30 back, and a considering a swap of 27 for 22 as a reluctant compromise. how exactly is RFC indecisive, as the very proposal you're saying they should accept was rejected by the GC.

The source for the rejection of 30 was 1 yes 1 radio show correct.

With all the media BS in Melbourne do you think that it's possible that it never happened? If we are giving you 22 for 26 as has been mentioned I would say it was likely BS.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Pick 6 is a nice spot in this draft and I doubt the Tigers will want to give it up.

I also dont think its an ideal pick for GC unless they specifically need it for another trade.

I expect this trade to perhaps go something along these lines

Rich
In: 30 + Prestia
Out: 46 + 2017 Rich 1R

This leaves Tigers well placed in this draft with 6, 27, 30 + 64 allowing for a gun at 6 and perhaps tallish options at 27 and/or 30.

Suns bank a 1R for next year and get 46 which can be ontraded for an Achee/Witts type.

I'd do that.

Could end up with pick 3 - 10 next year.

 

[Shadow Tiger]

Hawthorn Deledio
Melbourne Lewis
Richmond Prestia
Gold Coast picks from Melb future second round,Richmond 26 pick
Clubs are in talks both players are from the same trade period how ironic

 

[Hamingja]

Hawthorn Deledio
Melbourne Lewis
Richmond Prestia
Gold Coast picks from Melb future second round,Richmond 26 pick
Clubs are in talks both players are from the same trade period how ironic

Yep Hawthorn are going to dump Mitchell and Lewis for cap space and pick up Deledio.

Just cough up pick 6 already.

 

[pebblestone]

You complain about how the Suns are being "campaigners" as we trade him to another Victorian club that offers what we like.

Cool. So then, when Prestia says "No thanks, I want to play at Richmond."
What then? Do the Suns hold a gun to his head?

 

[Lsta062]

Pick 6 is a nice spot in this draft and I doubt the Tigers will want to give it up.

I also dont think its an ideal pick for GC unless they specifically need it for another trade.

I expect this trade to perhaps go something along these lines

Rich
In: 30 + Prestia
Out: 46 + 2017 Rich 1R

This leaves Tigers well placed in this draft with 6, 27, 30 + 64 allowing for a gun at 6 and perhaps tallish options at 27 and/or 30.

Suns bank a 1R for next year and get 46 which can be ontraded for an Achee/Witts type.

One problem though. Next year's top picks are touted to feature KPPs in the higher end, something that we are desperate for. So, I wouldn't trade next year's first very quickly lest we finish lowly (which is looking likely even with Prestia) and miss out on a gun KPF or KPD.

 

[prodigy]

Yep Hawthorn are going to dump Mitchell and Lewis for cap space and pick up Deledio.

Just cough up pick 6 already.

We here at bigfooty must be holding up the deal. I'll make the call to the club and tell them to do the trade now.


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[Shadow Tiger]

Yep Hawthorn are going to dump Mitchell and Lewis for cap space and pick up Deledio.

Just cough up pick 6 already.

You would be surprise Deledio is not much higher than Lewis wage in his final year his contract not that high in his final. As for Lewis he wants out not happy
Remember Hawthorn did 360 when knowing Mitchell leaving and know that to cover experience player losing 2. This only has come late Friday afternoon parties few things happening reason why Richmond missed the meeting.Few things and options have came up this will go few days .i have feeling a player has pop up that Richmond didn't think would be tradable and has change their thoughts how to get Prestia and this other player by not losing pick 6 but most likely move on few players off our own. So much to play out so many things are going to happen your thought last week was amusing lol.
Get ready for this week few bomb shells are about to explode lol.
Few names have been rumoured that might be on the move depending contracts and $$$$ both causing pressure within the clubs Tippett and Ablett

 

[Ned_Flanders]

The source for the rejection of 30 was 1 yes 1 radio show correct.

With all the media BS in Melbourne do you think that it's possible that it never happened? If we are giving you 22 for 26 as has been mentioned I would say it was likely BS.

The hun report says that is being considered by gc, not that its been accepted.

The issue isnt the specific picks but the notion of a swap itself

As one poster said, given rfc has collapsed from no six to six and a good pick return to six and a shit pick return to six and a 5 pick upgrade (which lets be honest is embarrassing), gc probably figure thry will fold anyway

Im hoping my club wakes up on the weekend and kills this deal, because a five pick upgrade is shithouse

 

[Iva Bigun]

The hun report says that is being considered by gc, not that its been accepted.

The issue isnt the specific picks but the notion of a swap itself

As one poster said, given rfc has collapsed from no six to six and a good pick return to six and a shit pick return to six and a 5 pick upgrade (which lets be honest is embarrassing), gc probably figure thry will fold anyway

Im hoping my club wakes up on the weekend and kills this deal, because a five pick upgrade is shithouse

Thanks, I understand your point. I think once you get Prestia you will focus on the positives and not the "how"

He is a gun and you will be glad you got him

 

[jodo27]

Richmond should get Prestia for free because the vibe, Mabo etc.

FFS if you offer a $3.5 M contract be prepared to pay fair price. If the deal falls through, good luck with getting another player to nominate the Tigers. It won't happen.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Thanks, I understand your point. I think once you get Prestia you will focus on the positives and not the "how"

He is a gun and you will be glad you got him

right now if 6/22 for prestia/27 happens, I will be joining the EGM crew. the club talks about patience and investing in our future, and then collapse for a shitty expedient trade like this?

this isnt a slam on GC btw, you are screwing us, but we have the right to say no (and apparently wont )

 

[Iva Bigun]

right now if 6/22 for prestia/27 happens, I will be joining the EGM crew. the club talks about patience and investing in our future, and then collapse for a shitty expedient trade like this?

this isnt a slam on GC btw, you are screwing us, but we have the right to say no (and apparently wont )

Another way to look at is Prestia is a know quantity pick 6 isn't

Some would say better the devil you know, from my POV I would rather keep him than get pick 6

 

[Frank Grimes]

Thanks, I understand your point. I think once you get Prestia you will focus on the positives and not the "how"

He is a gun and you will be glad you got him

I would be happy with Prestia and support him if he wears Richmond colours. However I would be angry at the club and question the clubs direction if we pay overs and do embarrassing deals.

 

[GoTigers2015]

Another way to look at is Prestia is a know quantity pick 6 isn't

Some would say better the devil you know, from my POV I would rather keep him than get pick 6

Known quantity and not worth 6.
He is not contracted that argument doesn't stick about keeping him. The deal will go through as soon GC stop trying to bend us over.

 

[GoTigers2015]

My reasoning is simple. If my team drafted a player of Prestias quality at pick 6 I'd be thrilled. At the end of the day pick 6 is a lottery ticket. You might draft a gun, or you might get a dud. You get a guarantee of a quality AFL player with Prestia.
The Mitchell trade is a poor benchmark imo, as Sydney were in a salary cap bind and couldn't afford him. Wanted a first round pick. 14 was unders, but at that point their choice was 14 or next years first. Given that 14 is the lowest pick Hawthorn have had for years, I wouldn't want to gamble that their next years first rounder would be as good or better than 14. It is what it is.
GC and Richmond are in a very different situation. Putting a benchmark on the Mitchell trade is folly in this instance imo given the differing circumstances and picks available.

Hope you don't think I'm trolling here, because your last post was reasonably measured compared to your other ones and I'm responding in kind.

There's no way that GC will give you back pick 10 in any deal though. That's a pipe dream. Your best hope would be Prestia and 30 for 6, but it seems like even that's not going to be easy to get. GC are on the war path this year. You guys picked the wrong year to poach a player from them. Blame Hawthorn and JOM for that.

Don't care if Gold Coast on the warpath. The club should do what is their best interest not a deal to appease another club. Prestia is not very durable and is hardly a gun. He is a very good player but is worth a pick in the teens IMO. If Prestia was in the draft would pick 6 get him? I doubt that very much.

Would have pick 6 + 27 for Prestia and 10 (gives him a value of pick 18). Gold Coast know the strategic importance of 6, They could potentially get 3 free hits before Bowes name is called out. Need to give a better deal that what they offered. Both clubs lose out if no deal is made.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Known quantity and not worth 6.
He is not contracted that argument doesn't stick about keeping him. The deal will go through as soon GC stop trying to bend us over.

Settle pettle I'm not arguing that we will keep him just that my choice would be Prestia over pick 6

I take offence to the inference we are bending you over I would suggest you have bent yourself over by offering a 5 years to get a player to say yes, if you don't pull it off now is anyone else going to nominate you in the near future?