Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[Wallace52]

Well that’s sending a powerful and defiant message to the public. And I would like to add……FY too Jubelin.

Jubes is in black and FM in orange…. At the recent inquest hearings.

 

[31550]

No doubt. It would have been terrifying, and that’s another indicator to me that at that particular point in time, the FF was completely innocent of anything to do with how William disappeared.

I think his behaviour, when he got into an argument with the neighbour about wanting to search his shed/garage, although a bit weird, showed he was genuine at the time. He's not that good an actor, and if guilty would not draw suspicion by creating a scene. A guilty trickster would act 'nice as pie' - now who does that sound like? Ask GJ and MU.

 

[31550]

Could a 6 kg fox carry a 16 kg child away entirely? Ill look

More than one fox perhaps.

 

[31550]

I’m guessing they cooked something quick so FD FGM could maybe eat a bit but I don’t know, maybe they were having a roast lamb with their wine.
I believe FF had been out all day looking, not sure about FM.
(All things that police would know, hopefully at least now anyway.)

I don't know Kendall well enough. But if I was hungry, and I wouldn't be, it'd be a quick and dirty takeaway - pizza, burger, fish and chips, local Chinese?.
I thought maybe the cops suggested they remain at the property so they were forced to cook, but could surely have sent someone to pick up some food? I reckon Lydene would probably have been rolling out sandwiches or have fired up a sausage sizzle by then if she'd had her way.

 

[31550]

I know what you’re saying but it’s not Clare or Alice’s fault if they didn’t know.

IMO

And in fairness, both the original chief investigator and Jubelin cleared her and her husband.
So why would the Collins ladies have any reason to suspect anything apart from that the FM told them ?

Yeah poor judgement and poor choice of friends is not a crime. And it's a bit much to expect integrity from anyone in the PR business. Their whole enterprise is founded on lies.

 

[Underarrest_]

I don't know Kendall well enough. But if I was hungry, and I wouldn't be, it'd be a quick and dirty takeaway - pizza, burger, fish and chips, local Chinese?.
I thought maybe the cops suggested they remain at the property so they were forced to cook, but could surely have sent someone to pick up some food? I reckon Lydene would probably have been rolling out sandwiches or have fired up a sausage sizzle by then if she'd had her way.

Roast lamb, vegetables and mint sauce might have been on the menu.
Personally, I couldn’t eat, probably would have collapsed. Sometimes it’s amazing how people deal with different situations and I’d probably make sure my family had something. I can’t eat after a funeral but most people hog in at the wake.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Well that’s sending a powerful and defiant message to the public. And I would like to add……FY too Jubelin.

GJ is an utter idiot imo. Planting a listening device and determining guit or innocence entirely on the back of what's said is useless..All it does is prove what they said when you listened not what they did. Either that or it proves the person was wise to him. 500% GJ....Cinderella. Look it up.. black eyes. Falling off a chair, hitting his head and couldn't hear....or my favourite....bouncing out of his skull..Shake my head..

 

[passball]

I find it sad that he couldn't see the bigger picture and was manipulated THIS time.
If we are picking out inconsistencies with FM eith what info we have, how did he block it out altogether?
Maybe the only fox in this case is FM.

 

[31550]

GJ is an utter idiot imo. Planting a listening device and determining guit or innocence entirely on the back of what's said is useless..All it does is prove what they said when you listened not what they did. Either that or it proves the person was wise to him. 500% GJ....Cinderella. Look it up.. black eyes. Falling off a chair, hitting his head and couldn't hear....or my favourite....bouncing out of his skull..Shake my head..

If GJ was a TV show he jumped the shark several times over this case.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

More than one fox perhaps.

The thing is that if he was placed there dead and was taken that night by fox then the scent would still be there and would be detectable to a cadaver dog which came along very new day at that spot. No. Imo he was never there

 

[31550]

The thing is that if he was placed there dead and was taken that night by fox then the scent would still be there and would be detectable to a cadaver dog which came along very new day at that spot. No. Imo he was never there

When did they start using cadaver dogs on this case as opposed to search dogs?
And do you know the search area? Pretty narrow and close to the FGM property I assume. Why search 3 or 4km away - a 3YO boy couldn't get that far on foot.

 

[jason_recliner]

And then they were bugged again.
How did that turn out?

How did what turn out. You claimed he never considered them suspects. Why bug them then.

 

[pinkjellybean]

Some thoughts about the three strange cars FM claimed to have seen on the morning of William's disappearance....

Is there any record of FGM saying she either knew of their existence (i.e. via FM) or had seen them herself? The first two cars were enough to raise FM's suspicions and I would have thought may have warranted a comment or question to FGM over breakfast, especially as the cars were still there during the "Mummy Monster" and tree climbing activities.

Then, FGM was out with FM, FD and WT during the bike riding on the driveway when the third car drove past. Again, you would expect there to be a comment made, especially when FD asked about the car. FGM with all her local knowledge may well have been able to identify the cars or the "weathered man" driving the third one.

 

[31550]

Some thoughts about the three strange cars FM claimed to have seen on the morning of William's disappearance....

Is there any record of FGM saying she either knew of their existence (i.e. via FM) or had seen them herself? The first two cars were enough to raise FM's suspicions and I would have thought may have warranted a comment or question to FGM over breakfast, especially as the cars were still there during the "Mummy Monster" and tree climbing activities.

Then, FGM was out with FM, FD and WT during the bike riding on the driveway when the third car drove past. Again, you would expect there to be a comment made, especially when FD asked about the car. FGM with all her local knowledge may well have been able to identify the cars or the "weathered man" driving the third one.

You seem a little unfamiliar with some of the basic facts of this case. I refer to the FGM walkthrough video. The FGM states she never saw the cars that the FM said she saw. The FGM never mentions bike riding. These are both parts of the FM narrative only, not the FGMs.

 

[gymjam]

What do we mean that Wendy got the sleeping arrangements mixed up?

She had each bedroom each foster parent slept in with the same child swapped around.

IE FF and William in the room next to the carport and mother and other child in bedroom near loungeroom. She just got the number of each bedroom on the house plan wrong.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

When did they start using cadaver dogs on this case as opposed to search dogs?
And do you know the search area? Pretty narrow and close to the FGM property I assume. Why search 3 or 4km away - a 3YO boy couldn't get that far on foot.

I paid attention that the Cobb & co search area had a cadaver dog pass it next day.

I immediately knew he was never there.

 

[Wallace52]

How did what turn out. You claimed he never considered them suspects. Why bug them then.

He had to do his due diligence before the $1Mil reward was announced?

 

[31550]

I paid attention that the Cobb & co search area had a cadaver dog pass it next day.

I immediately knew he was never there.

Yes because someone from the public reported a smell from that area. It was later found to be a dead cow. I was wondering if dogs went anywhere else that far away or further from the FGM house. I would be surprised if they did. For instance did they ever take dogs into the forest or along the route posted above?

 

[31550]

She had each bedroom each foster parent slept in with the same child swapped around.

IE FF and William in the room next to the carport and mother and other child in bedroom near loungeroom. She just got the number of each bedroom on the house plan wrong.

That had nothing to do with Wendy Hudson.
The FMs statement which she signed has notations about the two bedrooms the wrong way round.

 

[pinkjellybean]

You seem a little unfamiliar with some of the basic facts of this case. I refer to the FGM walkthrough video. The FGM states she never saw the cars that the FM said she saw. The FGM never mentions bike riding. These are both parts of the FM narrative only, not the FGMs.

Thanks for clarifying. I have seen the FGM video and was aware she had mentioned neither during that.

 

[Kora]

How did what turn out. You claimed he never considered them suspects. Why bug them then.

He was forced by colleagues.

 

[Awakening]

Could a 6 kg fox carry a 16 kg child away entirely? Ill look

They do it in packs. They can remove an adult and drag the pieces back to their den.

 

[Awakening]

When did they start using cadaver dogs on this case as opposed to search dogs?
And do you know the search area? Pretty narrow and close to the FGM property I assume. Why search 3 or 4km away - a 3YO boy couldn't get that far on foot.

It certainly wouldn't be typical for the search area to be that large, for a small boy presumed lost in that topography. Certainly not in the first few days.

 

[Awakening]

Some thoughts about the three strange cars FM claimed to have seen on the morning of William's disappearance....

Is there any record of FGM saying she either knew of their existence (i.e. via FM) or had seen them herself? The first two cars were enough to raise FM's suspicions and I would have thought may have warranted a comment or question to FGM over breakfast, especially as the cars were still there during the "Mummy Monster" and tree climbing activities.

Then, FGM was out with FM, FD and WT during the bike riding on the driveway when the third car drove past. Again, you would expect there to be a comment made, especially when FD asked about the car. FGM with all her local knowledge may well have been able to identify the cars or the "weathered man" driving the third one.

Yet, we have those claiming that all 1000 people in Kendal know not only every local cars, but anyone visiting a local cars.

 

[Lady O]

They do it in packs. They can remove an adult and drag the pieces back to their den.

Foxes in packs?? A pair and their cubs might be together before the young'uns are old enough to hunt, but basically foxes live separately. You are getting them confused with wolves.