Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[Underarrest_]

Could it have been around the time that Magistrate Dene had issued the first major suppression order aaah no it couldnt have been!

How about when the Allanah vs DOCS case was running re publshing that William was a foster child.

Part of that case was based on the premis that William was falsley known by the public as the biological child ... an utterly false premis ... of the woman who was at Kendall with him. Did DOC use some well hidden precedent to lawfully authorize the name change to support the false ... almost fraudulent (imo) premis that the foster carers were his bioligical parents?

I have seen evidence in a public domain not social media or any discussion forum... that showed the school was aware of the FM real name.

Gee Allanah's achievement was absolutely game changing for William's case! A really powerful slaying of the dragon moment. Such courage of conviction and dogged determination and bravery to launch against a NSW government department and team fosters who had considered they were the untouchables!

I don’t know. I’ve never heard of DOCS authorising a name change.
They would have either ordered the school to use an alias meaning report cards etc wouldn’t be in the legal name or legally changed the name which I can’t see neither unless adoption has taken place.

 

[Wallace52]

Thankyou yet again

 

[gymjam]

ADHD is an acronym.

What for ... a special drink ingredient?

 

[Wallace52]

I don’t know. I’ve never heard of DOCS authorising a name change.
They would have either ordered the school to use an alias meaning report cards etc wouldn’t be in the legal name or legally changed the name which I can’t see neither unless adoption has taken place.

Her name wasn’t legally changed, not like at births deaths and marriages but she went by the FF surname at school.

Not sure about report cards but I don’t think many of the teachers knew she was a Tyrrell.

 

[js47]

I've seen a photo of furniture but I didn’t know when that photo was taken so I didn't know if they just moved the furniture after William was missing

If the furniture was moved then…..you would have to be friends with dumb and dumber

 

[Wallace52]

What for ... a special drink ingredient?

Sounds like delicious cocktail name!

 

[Wallace52]

If the furniture was moved then…..you would have to be friends with dumb and dumber

Imagine putting the furniture there after he (allegedly) fell.

They’re not that stupid.

The furniture was always there. If they were smart, they would have moved the furniture inside.

 

[Wallace52]

There was other furniture too stacked on top of each other and covered by what appeared to be a pink bedspread.... it was positioned at about the 3/4 point between the high balcony entry gate near the clothesline and the end where William is currently believed to have fallen to his death.

Hold up, what’s this??

I’ve never seen it. Do you have a picture? That’s fascinating.

 

[Underarrest_]

Her name wasn’t legally changed, not like at births deaths and marriages but she went by the FF surname at school.

Not sure about report cards but I don’t think many of the teachers knew she was a Tyrrell.

It’s common for children to use another name at school but all records/reports are in the legal name so this is possible.

 

[js47]

Whaaaat didnt like washing what exactly?

The FD clothing

 

[Wallace52]

It’s common for children to use another name at school but all records/reports are in the legal name so this is possible.

So her official name at school was the FF surname and her actual legal first name she was born with.

People knew her as FM and FF child. I don’t think many teachers or staff at her school knew she was in care.

 

[gymjam]

Ok, you’re right - it is an acronym.

It stands for: Non publication order.

It’s colloquially known as a NPO in wide circles. As opposed to Benaroon drive which is abbreviated and understood only by those who follow the case, the acronym “NPO” would be understood by journalists and lawyers, in other situations and with other cases that are not specific to this case or context.

It’s also not a person’s name.

(I am hoping for the best with this explanation- fingers crossed )

I must say that now I am very confused! Initially Benaroon Drive was known as Beneroon Drive and there was a street sign that said so. Was that pkaced there drliberatrly in someones attrmpt to confuse the FM or the drivers of the 2 mystery cars?

And NPO meaning just WOW. I thought that stood for nit picking obsenities.

Heck I need to make another dunny roll list.

 

[passball]

There was other furniture too stacked on top of each other and covered by what appeared to be a pink bedspread.... it was positioned at about the 3/4 point between the high balcony entry gate near the clothesline and the end where William is currently believed to have fallen to his death.

The other person was FF in stripped longsleeve tshirt and jeans.

Michelle White Salvo Young Hope boss arrived at scene on 13th. Recently published media photos she had snapped show the stacked furniture placed as you would sit on it. the house was ptetty crowded on 13th.

The bench FF was photographed sitting on by the media on 12th was at the very end of the high balcony ... up against the brick wall of the house above the underhouse garage.

WOW?
A death trap waiting to happen on that verandah.

I noticed in both FF and FGM walk throughs the small gate going on to the verandah was open.
The FGM wouldn't be used to closing it being there by herself, but if it was open, yeah, not good.

Now I think of it, FD was still there and it was still left open

 

[gymjam]

The FD clothing

Were her hands too sore from slipups? Oh no was her washing machine also broken? Wink

 

[31550]

It’s common for children to use another name at school but all records/reports are in the legal name so this is possible.

Correct. Schools are aware of foster situations and will be advised on how to refer to a student at school, possibly different from their legal name, although they will also have records of the child's legal name.

 

[Underarrest_]

So her official name at school was the FF surname and her actual legal first name she was born with.

People knew her as FM and FF child. I don’t think many teachers or staff at her school knew she was in care.

Legally she would be enrolled in her real name and all reports would be in her real name.

 

[Wallace52]

Did DOC use some well hidden precedent to lawfully authorize the name change to support the false ... almost fraudulent (imo) premis that the foster carers were his bioligical parents?

Yes. That is what they did.

I have seen evidence in a public domain not social media or any discussion forum... that showed the school was aware of the FM real name not the FF name.

Yes so the FM was on the P&C at the school and she also did some volunteering at the tuck shop in the FD primary school. It’s known that the FM and the FF have different surnames but that they are married.

The FM always intended for her and the FF’s children to have his (the FF) surname. Including if they ever were to have biological children, they were to be named with her husband’s surname and not hers.

 

[Tommyz]

Peter's call to 2GB was broadcast four days after William went missing - Ray Hadley: Desperate search for missing boy, 2GB, Tuesday 16 Sep 2014.

He said his dashcam was not turned on. My transcript from the audio file in the link (listen from about 7:26 minutes):

Peter: "... I should have got the numberplate, and I didn't have the camera on on the dashboard, either. Silly! Um, it was just one of those moments, and I was charging my battery."

What he said on the radio and what he put in his statement are two different things. I did say statement. Not what he said on the radio.

 

[Wallace52]

Legally she would be enrolled in her real name and all reports would be in her real name.

I read a newsletter from her primary school highlighting her sporting achievements and she was listed by her alias in the newsletter.

But you’re right. I am sure the reports were in her legal name.

 

[passball]

So her official name at school was the FF surname and her actual legal first name she was born with.

People knew her as FM and FF child. I don’t think many teachers or staff at her school knew she was in care.

They would have to let them know who wasn't allowed to pick them up wouldn't they?

 

[Tommyz]

It would be standard practice for FACCS to remove a child from their home. Sometimes they have police escort if there’s a perceived risk for their own safety, probably more so with bio parents because they’re angry that their children are being taken.
The police have obviously applied for the DVO and charged FPs because yes they were concerned and IMO to build a case of FPs character.
Does the truck driver’s times fit with William’s disappearance? I thought he was meeting with Michelle and loading from 10-11ish?

That may be true, however, in this case it was a woman. The police were still recording. The truck driver times are within, but can't be sure it actually fits.

 

[gymjam]

WOW?
A death trap waiting to happen on that verandah.

I noticed in both FF and FGM walk throughs the small gate going on to the verandah was open.
The FGM wouldn't be used to closing it being there by herself, but if it was open, yeah, not good.

Now I think of it, FD was still there and it was still left open

And a soccer ball at the ready and wind chimes hanging from up high at highest corner of high balcony just waiting for William to reach up to play some music for the kookas to hear signalling to them to come down for a feed.

 

[Wallace52]

They would have to let them know who wasn't allowed to pick them up wouldn't they?

I do not know.

 

[Wallace52]

That may be true, however, in this case it was a woman. The police were still recording. The truck driver times are within, but can't be sure it actually fits.

You’re right.

 

[passball]

Yes. That is what they did.

Yes so the FM was on the P&C at the school and she also did some volunteering at the tuck shop in the FD primary school. It’s known that the FM and the FF have different surnames but that they are married.

The FM always intended for her and the FF’s children to have his (the FF) surname. Including if they ever were to have biological children, they were to be named with her husband’s surname and not hers.

Their own biological kids.
How old was the FM when she started fostering?