Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[Wallace52]

WOW?
A death trap waiting to happen on that verandah.

I noticed in both FF and FGM walk throughs the small gate going on to the verandah was open.
The FGM wouldn't be used to closing it being there by herself, but if it was open, yeah, not good.

Now I think of it, FD was still there and it was still left open

That’s absolutely correct.

And the FD remained at that house for a week or more. With the same hazard right there.

 

[gymjam]

So her official name at school was the FF surname and her actual legal first name she was born with.

People knew her as FM and FF child. I don’t think many teachers or staff at her school knew she was in care.

Her teacher did didnt she as they write up reports for DOC dont they? And she was the one that reported the alleged assaults and fear of child to return home.

 

[passball]

You’re right.

??

 

[Wallace52]

Her teacher did didnt she as they write up reports for DOC dont they? And she was the one that reported the alleged assaults and fear of child to return home.

I don’t know if her teacher knew the FD legal surname.

 

[31550]

I don’t know if her teacher knew the FD legal surname.

Her own classroom teacher would be aware of her foster status. Other teachers may not be told (need to know) but typically they all find out. They may not all know her legal name.

 

[gymjam]

Their own biological kids.
How old was the FM when she started fostering?

46ish when going thru accreditation which required trial day/overnight stays by various foster children.

 

[Wallace52]

This is interesting,
A child can use another surname in school for roll call, etc but report cards etc have to be the official name re birth certificate.
How would FD be enrolled at school in another name, other than birth certificate or change of name by deed poll?

I don’t know.

Maybe you might have some ideas about how that would work.

It’s astounding that she was able to use the FF surname as an alias.

I think no one knew she was a Tyrrell. She wasn’t supposed to tell people she was William Tyrrell’s sister. That’s what I’ve been told.

 

[js47]

WOW?
A death trap waiting to happen on that verandah.

I noticed in both FF and FGM walk throughs the small gate going on to the verandah was open.
The FGM wouldn't be used to closing it being there by herself, but if it was open, yeah, not good.

Now I think of it, FD was still there and it was still left open

I wonder who dumb and dumbest’ friends are?

 

[Wallace52]

Her own classroom teacher would be aware of her foster status. Other teachers may not be told (need to know) but typically they all find out. They may not all know her legal name.

I don’t agree: Not in this case.

 

[gymjam]

I don’t know if her teacher knew the FD legal surname.

And you are referring to FF surname as legal name is that correct?

 

[gymjam]

I wonder who dumb and dumbest’ friends are?

Now these are 2 new references. Pray tell who?

 

[Wallace52]

And you are referring to FF surname as legal name is that correct?

No.

I am trying (poorly) to say that I don’t know if the FD teacher knew that her legal name was Tyrrell. I think maybe her teacher may have known her as such and such **** . <<<the FF surname>>>

 

[js47]

‘….and this is where it all happened’

 

[js47]

Now these are 2 new references. Pray tell who?

Hypothetical people who have no idea how to raise children.

 

[Wallace52]

I wonder if the FD has listened to this podcast.



I imagine it would be interesting for one as they grew older to get some insight into the way that one’s former foster parents were speaking about one’s brother’s disappearance, and speaking about her too.

 

[LRitz]

What is the Special' orange juice?
Did it have ADHD medicine in it?
Why is it Special?

Well .... I thought that the FM and FGM had different narratives about breakfast . Breakfast was allegedly around 8:30 to 9:00 according to FM. and FGM had breakfast with children and FF had definitely left. But FGM said FF left at 8:00. So very confusing. But the common narrative was that William had orange juice. The important things are not clear IMO, but they both remember the orange juice and were very specific. So I called it "special" orange juice in a previous post.

They seem to say that William had juice. Maybe they all had juice. Maybe William just liked orange juice and it was a treat for him.

But now that you mention it. I wonder if there could have been something in the orange juice. I think IMO William looked a bit distracted in the photo. He was not looking at the camera, he was not smiling or drawing. The FGM said he had a lot of energy, but that energy is not evident in the photo. Could FPs have given William sedation to control his behaviour?

 

[stormbird]

Do you know if this has been mentioned in any media coverage please?

I thought I read that he had stated at inquest or perhaps an interview tape was played where the truckdriver Peter said his dashcam was not working on 12th.

gymjam, are you talking about Peter's call to 2GB in 2014 when he said: "I didn't have the camera on on the dashboard"? See post 7,404 from earlier today.

I think there was not much reported from the inquest and the only article I saw that mentioned the dashcam was by the NewsWire reporter:

News.com.au, 6 Nov 2024:
"Mr Bashkurt also said while he often used a dashcam, he didn’t have one equipped on that day.
“I wish I did, I didn’t have one on that vehicle that day,” he said."

Nothing I've seen (apart from here) reported that Peter denies saying what was written in his witness statement.

 

[gymjam]

Her own classroom teacher would be aware of her foster status. Other teachers may not be told (need to know) but typically they all find out. They may not all know her legal name.

How confused the child must have been. What an awful nightmare to live a life through. Even everything about your real identity and your real bioligical parents stripped away even your self stripped away until there was nothing left but darling children hiding under tables, too afraid to sleep,kicking and biting, cutting hair of kinder mates to change their appearance like they were changed, throwing things, begging not to be hurt anymore, crying out for help, being locked outside because you dared as a 2yo to soil a nappy, being sworn at and hit and kicked and bruised ... oh the horse did that, and told to sit on a marble floor and threatened if you soiled the floor your face would be rubbed in it ... all because you were denied toilet relief whilst sitting out a punishment session.

This is a mummy dearest horror story!

Geez the children were even forced by these 2 wonderful caring loving foster carers to call their real biological mother 'biomum' and father 'biodad' as reported in the media. The foster carers must be so proud they are too scared to reveal themselves or is it really they are too embarrased to show their own real identity.it will happen one day and more stories may finally see the very bright light of day.

Its damn crazy ... did someone push the big red button and say step into my wonderful world of our nutty farm experiment?

If this story was made into a true story movie script it would have to be placed in the 'horror genre' for sure. Who would be chosen to play the make believers?

 

[Awakening]

What planet are you on again?

I’m a lazy parent because a few times a year I treat them to Maccas. lol!

 

[Underarrest_]

That may be true, however, in this case it was a woman. The police were still recording. The truck driver times are within, but can't be sure it actually fits.

I’m not sure how this was recorded but hopefully as discreetly as possible.
Trying to get my head around why the truck driver was called to give evidence. We know he was in the area he’s said he saw three cars and a blonde lady.

 

[js47]

Don’t run down Maccas. Pre schools have food vouchers because the parents cannot feed their children. A acquaintance’s daughter told me the children were fed but they could not feed the mother. Even though they work a big car bill etc could come in. Doctors don’t always bulk bill. I think they’re but the grace of God go I. Some parents can at least buy a cheese burger.

 

[Awakening]

Don’t run down Maccas. Pre schools have food vouchers because the parents cannot feed their children. A acquaintance’s daughter told me the children were fed but they could not feed the mother. Even though they work a big car bill etc could come in. Doctors don’t always bulk bill. I think they’re but the grace of God go I. Some parents can at least buy a cheese burger.

Theres nothing wrong with the occasional Maccas meal.

Hopefully Kurve doesn’t get upset with me for the Maccas abbreviation.

 

[js47]

William had dinner around what 6.30 went to bed did not eat till about 8.30. Except for some yogurt allegedly. 14 hours without food. He was awake at 5.50 according to FF why didn’t he get him some cereal?
The FM allegedly wanted to sleep in
‘…. And this is where it all happened’
He probably ran away to find food

 

[js47]

Notice Bio Mother and Father in photos had food and drinks for the children in what looked like brought from home containers.

 

[js47]

Silver service breakfast
Weetbix
Scrambled eggs
Toast
orange juice
Yogurt
(Smashed avo) extra

Table service for 3 or 4

8.30 sharp for people wanting to play games. Or take photos.

Owner to do washing up.