Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[Awakening]

If that had happened they would have been spotted by the Crabbs when they left or returned, or Sharpley when she dropped her kids or came back, or Savage when he went for his walk, or the FF when he drove off.

No they wouldn’t have. They weren’t actively watching the street for a kidnapper. They were going about their business. I suspect the main reason the Crabbs heard any vehicle because they were listening out for the postie, who had unbeknownst to them had already been.

These aren’t apartments. These are houses on your larger than average parcel on land. They weren’t all sitting out on the verandas watching the street.

If they were, they would have seen FM leave the house in FGMs car and then return.

If a perp can enter a tent, remove a child next to their sleeping parents and exit with the child without waking the parents then someone could have certainly removed William
from the kerb of FGM’s property without being seen.

Possibly they were heard by the Crabbs. Or they had a 4wd that allowed them to enter and exit without going along Benaroon.

 

[Awakening]

What would prompt a person from Kendall to want to abduct WT?

What prompts any person - stranger or otherwise to abduct a child? It happens anywhere and everywhere.

 

[Awakening]

Yes, a little boy went missing not long before WT. Was found, he just wandered off.

Interesting, because I still think it’s also possible he could have wandered off.

It’s not clear to me how accurate the dog was given the circumstances.

And I believe FM lied about how long he’d been missing which has a dramatic effect on how a search would be conducted.

Then by all accounts you’ve got a chaotic search happening as well as police botching it from the beginning.

The coroner must be tearing her hair out, and I hope she gives it to police and FACS with both guns blazing.

 

[Awakening]

What’s the percentage of a child having an accident and their Mother/carer not phoning 000 which is what police are alleging.

And in a very narrow window of time removing his dead body, hiding it so that none of the searches ever found a shred of evidence, and no neighbour seeing her take this drive? Not to mention keeping it to herself and not telling anyone. Despite hours of surveillance, no smoking gun, no confession, no talking to herself about her crime.

Possible, but would be exceedingly rare.

 

[Wallace52]

Interesting, because I still think it’s also possible he could have wandered off.

It’s not clear to me how accurate the dog was given the circumstances.

And I believe FM lied about how long he’d been missing which has a dramatic effect on how a search would be conducted.

Yes. I think he was missing for a long time before she went to look for him. And that really botched the search because he could have gone much further than they would have imagined. IMO

Then by all accounts you’ve got a chaotic search happening as well as police botching it from the beginning.

The coroner must be tearing her hair out, and I hope she gives it to police and FACS with both guns blazing.

Me too!

 

[Awakening]

I suspect the top brass would prefer the community to believe it was the FM, and that police worked extremely hard and they almost caught her, than the alternative that they botched it badly and because of their egos and in fighting they let a child abductor get away.

Community’s fear alleviated and community’s anger directed away from the cops and onto the fosters.

 

[Awakening]

Yes. I think he was missing for a long time before she went to look for him. And that really botched the search because he could have gone much further than they would have imagined. IMO

Me too!

I think if they hadn’t botched it they may have been able to charge FM with child negligence. But that can’t be proven now.

 

[Wallace52]

I think if they hadn’t botched it they may have been able to charge FM with child negligence. But that can’t be proven now.

Talk about closing the gate after the horse has bolted.

 

[Wallace52]

I suspect the top brass would prefer the community to believe it was the FM, and that police worked extremely hard and they almost caught her, than the alternative that they botched it badly and because of their egos and in fighting they let a child abductor get away.

Community’s fear alleviated and community’s anger directed away from the cops and onto the fosters.

1000%.

 

[31550]

No they wouldn’t have. They weren’t actively watching the street for a kidnapper. They were going about their business. I suspect the main reason the Crabbs heard any vehicle because they were listening out for the postie, who had unbeknownst to them had already been.

These aren’t apartments. These are houses on your larger than average parcel on land. They weren’t all sitting out on the verandas watching the street.

If they were, they would have seen FM leave the house in FGMs car and then return.

If a perp can enter a tent, remove a child next to their sleeping parents and exit with the child without waking the parents then someone could have certainly removed William
from the kerb of FGM’s property without being seen.

Possibly they were heard by the Crabbs. Or they had a 4wd that allowed them to enter and exit without going along Benaroon.

The perp needed a vehicle to get there and take William away. You said they were there watching the house? Where did they park the vehicle? Anyone going up and down Benaroon would notice a strange vehicle. All those people left their house and went up and down the street in the morning.

 

[Wallace52]

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/150-pages-of-censored-evidence-we-cant-show-you/news-story/82434840d2d57df3b8241ec0e940faae?amp

Mr Laidlaw’s statement claimed “there is no record” of bins being searched at the time on one of the roads near where William was reported missing.


Ah, of course they didn’t check the bloody bins. Typical.

 

[Kurve]

Again.
Missing on a Friday at 10.30am

The time, day and the location works against a random abduction the odds of which, would be about zero. IMO.

Unless, someone had been watching the other children in the street and William, who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time became the target instead. The planned target may have been one of the other kids in the street and if that was the case, it wasn't exactly a random abduction.

There were several other young kids living on Benaroon Drive and single mums iirc. A school bus stop at the end of the street.

Who knows .. maybe.

 

[Lady O]

But he was not abducted.

No, that's the point. There hasn't been an abduction. Far more likely he wandered off, as did this little boy. Remember the boy (can't remember the name now) parents thought he had been abducted but he was found 500mtrs away on their own property.

 

[Lady O]

The perp needed a vehicle to get there and take William away. You said they were there watching the house? Where did they park the vehicle? Anyone going up and down Benaroon would notice a strange vehicle. All those people left their house and went up and down the street in the morning.

If WT did leave under his own steam, he didn't need a vehicle. His body could still be in that very thick scrub around the area.

 

[Underarrest_]

I think it’s important to know who the Crabbes heard in the street that morning.
If it wasn’t the FM, surely they would come forward.

 

[Wallace52]

I think it’s important to know who the Crabbes heard in the street that morning.
If it wasn’t the FM, surely they would come forward.

Why? So that their lives can get ruined and picked apart?

 

[passball]

The only thing that I would rule out is that he wandered off.
I also think he disappeared with the help of someone.
It is definitely in the details of the files.

 

[Underarrest_]

Why? So that their lives can get ruined and picked apart?

It would just make sense that if you knew this was happening and police were trying to identify who was in the area and it was you who drove there for any reason, looking at scenery, house for sale, looking for an address, tradie (I don’t know) but something innocent you would come forward.
Only someone who has something to hide wouldn’t. IMO

 

[31550]

If WT did leave under his own steam, he didn't need a vehicle. His body could still be in that very thick scrub around the area.

A minute ago people were saying he was abducted by someone?

 

[Kurve]

If WT did leave under his own steam, he didn't need a vehicle. His body could still be in that very thick scrub around the area.

Unless there's more information come out, the coroner's already committed to William being removed in a car.

 

[31550]

Unless there's more information come out, the coroner's already committed to William being removed in a car.

I think this is the case but I don't think the coroner has actually come out and said that.

 

[Kurve]

I think this is the case but I don't think the coroner has actually come out and said that.

I definitely read that somewhere.

Never mind though, I'm not going to argue about it or try and chase the information up.

 

[Awakening]

The perp needed a vehicle to get there and take William away. You said they were there watching the house? Where did they park the vehicle? Anyone going up and down Benaroon would notice a strange vehicle. All those people left their house and went up and down the street in the morning.

Have you seen the bush all around that street?

 

[Kurve]

The only thing that I would rule out is that he wandered off.
I also think he disappeared with the help of someone.
It is definitely in the details of the files.

It's like they can't see the answer because it's sitting under their noses

 

[InTheBleachers]

No, that's the point. There hasn't been an abduction. Far more likely he wandered off, as did this little boy. Remember the boy (can't remember the name now) parents thought he had been abducted but he was found 500mtrs away on their own property.

AJ Elfalak