D3 Division 3 2025

[localfootylegend23]

Try this link

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Thanks!

Didn't really address where they are getting recruits from. My findings are a few ex u19's from blackburn/donvale for example.

The kid being made captain at 20 as well is wild. Talk about being thrown up the deep end, leading a young team getting poleaxed each week, would be bloody tough to stay positive watching the 2's not get close to winning at all then doing it yourself.
Not sure how the VAFA helps these clubs with no junior pathway or feeder team. Can't force old xavs 4ths players to play for struggling bottom division teams.

 

[outside_off]

VAFA help them ???

So many clubs have been lost from the lower divisions in recent years. Not so long ago there was a full division 4. Less divisions only makes the situation worse for the strugglers

 

[SeaSide]

VAFA help them ???

So many clubs have been lost from the lower divisions in recent years. Not so long ago there was a full division 4. Less divisions only makes the situation worse for the strugglers

How?

 

[Egg Boy]

How?

As I’ve mentioned before the VAFA supplied a “Club Liaison” from a A/B Grade club to work with division 3/4 teams and provide a conduit to VAFA HQ.

This got killed off 2018/19 … wouldn’t mind seeing it again.

Also VAFA could look into club partnerships between A/B and D3, specifically provide overflow opportunities to players missing out on games.

 

[God Yeah]

Also VAFA could look into club partnerships between A/B and D3, specifically provide overflow opportunities to players missing out on games.

Powerhouse and Collegians started preliminary discussions in regards to this a few years back, not sure how it progressed or if it is even still on the table.

 

[random observer]

VAFA help them ???

So many clubs have been lost from the lower divisions in recent years. Not so long ago there was a full division 4. Less divisions only makes the situation worse for the strugglers

How?

The clubs that have been leaving the VAFA have generally come from D1- upper D3 sections.

The clubs that will never leave are the old boys sides from A - C grades (the clubs the VAFA exists to serve) and the sides from the bottom half of D3 (who could never survive in a paying comp).

If that trend continues, the VAFA will end up as a four-division comp that functionally consists of A,B,C,D4 (bad enough) or with a huge gap between the upper and lower halves of the bottom division (even worse).

 

[localfootylegend23]

As I’ve mentioned before the VAFA supplied a “Club Liaison” from a A/B Grade club to work with division 3/4 teams and provide a conduit to VAFA HQ.

This got killed off 2018/19 … wouldn’t mind seeing it again.

Also VAFA could look into club partnerships between A/B and D3, specifically provide overflow opportunities to players missing out on games.

Yeah, makes sense but i reckon clubs won't turn down money going into their pocket and put it in other clubs pockets (giving away players).

But I'd like to see only 2 x 19 teams allowed and 2 x thirds teams allowed. The thirds comp old xavs take the piss out of every year and get away with it. they played like 64 regular season games for their 4 3rds teams, won 58 of them as the vafa is too coward to make them play each other in the same division. two of them choked in the grand final however.

But you can't force players to play anywhere they don't want to. its on eley park and the other struggling teams to build a culture where people wanna hang around.

 

[Max Leader]

Yeah, makes sense but i reckon clubs won't turn down money going into their pocket and put it in other clubs pockets (giving away players).

But I'd like to see only 2 x 19 teams allowed and 2 x thirds teams allowed. The thirds comp old xavs take the piss out of every year and get away with it. they played like 64 regular season games for their 4 3rds teams, won 58 of them as the vafa is too coward to make them play each other in the same division. two of them choked in the grand final however.

But you can't force players to play anywhere they don't want to. its on eley park and the other struggling teams to build a culture where people wanna hang around.

Didn’t choke, beaten by a better team.

 

[outside_off]

The key here is alcohol. If clubs are allowed to sell beer they can attract supporters and players. Those from the premier A-B-C old boys school system won't see it that way.

 

[outside_off]

The clubs that have been leaving the VAFA have generally come from D1- upper D3 sections.

The clubs that will never leave are the old boys sides from A - C grades (the clubs the VAFA exists to serve) and the sides from the bottom half of D3 (who could never survive in a paying comp).

If that trend continues, the VAFA will end up as a four-division comp that functionally consists of A,B,C,D4 (bad enough) or with a huge gap between the upper and lower halves of the bottom division (even worse).

Nailed it. Only matter of time unless something changes

 

[iDon]

The key here is alcohol. If clubs are allowed to sell beer they can attract supporters and players. Those from the premier A-B-C old boys school system won't see it that way.

It needs to change. Club like Albert Park has a strong social aspect, can only imagine it would benefit them more being able to serve alcohol more.

 

[Egg Boy]

The key here is alcohol. If clubs are allowed to sell beer they can attract supporters and players. Those from the premier A-B-C old boys school system won't see it that way.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

The clubs that have been leaving the VAFA have generally come from D1- upper D3 sections.

The clubs that will never leave are the old boys sides from A - C grades (the clubs the VAFA exists to serve) and the sides from the bottom half of D3 (who could never survive in a paying comp).

If that trend continues, the VAFA will end up as a four-division comp that functionally consists of A,B,C,D4 (bad enough) or with a huge gap between the upper and lower halves of the bottom division (even worse).

That is the bed HQ are making to lie in.
District clubs seem to be nothing more than a revenue source in HQ's eyes.

 

[God Yeah]

The key here is alcohol. If clubs are allowed to sell beer they can attract supporters and players. Those from the premier A-B-C old boys school system won't see it that way.

How much money would the sale of alcohol actually bring in? The majority of games outside of Prem A barely get 50 people to them.

Is it automatically implied that people will jump out of trees on a cold Saturday afternoon to have a can at an Ammo game? Unlike our paid suburban brethren there are no large groups of supporters that will spend an entire day at away grounds?

I'm not against it as I think the rule has passed it's used by date, I'm just not sure it's the golden goose many think it is.

 

[Max Leader]

How much money would the sale of alcohol actually bring in? The majority of games outside of Prem A barely get 50 people to them.

Is it automatically implied that people will jump out of trees on a cold Saturday afternoon to have a can at an Ammo game? Unlike our paid suburban brethren there are no large groups of supporters that will spend an entire day at away grounds?

I'm not against it as I think the rule has passed it's used by date, I'm just not sure it's the golden goose many think it is.

Do the math. Sell 500 beers at mark up of $3.50 per home game brings in $15,750, less costs of bar staff (if any). Not a small amount but not a huge amount either.

Add the cost of delivery and storage of beer, plus having someone one around to receive the delivery then unpack the beer and load it into fridges. Who has fridges that can store 500 beers.

 

[God Yeah]

Do the math. Sell 500 beers at mark up of $3.50 per home game brings in $15,750, less costs of bar staff (if any). Not a small amount but not a huge amount either.

Add the cost of delivery and storage of beer, plus having someone one around to receive the delivery then unpack the beer and load it into fridges. Who has fridges that can store 500 beers.

9 home games - 500/9 = 55/56 beers per home game during a match that you wouldn't sell normally (luncheon and post game sales).

It's feasible, but to make it truely work and to be the cash cow everyone wants it to be you'd need to sell 3,4 or 5 times that amount. I'd be impressed if any Ammo club could sell 200-250 beers at every home game during the playing times.

 

[random observer]

How much money would the sale of alcohol actually bring in? The majority of games outside of Prem A barely get 50 people to them.

Is it automatically implied that people will jump out of trees on a cold Saturday afternoon to have a can at an Ammo game? Unlike our paid suburban brethren there are no large groups of supporters that will spend an entire day at away grounds[.]

I'm not against it as I think the rule has passed it's used by date, I'm just not sure it's the golden goose many think it is.

Without doubt, the lower sections of the VAFA (outside A/B sections - which I rarely see) have the worst attendances of any comp in Melbourne. The VAFA is the only comp in Melbourne that banned drinking during games. I don't think the two things are unrelated.

If drinking during games was permitted (it virtually is now), there would not be a huge number of people converging on the VAFA just because they could have a beer while watching footy. But the key point is that it would at least stop repelling people from VAFA games. Over the years I have seen many outsiders (visitors from country or interstate) turn up, watch a bit of footy, then go to the canteen and try to buy a beer only to be refused, then leave immediately. Some expressed disbelief or disgust at the non-drinking policy. I doubt any of them ever came to another VAFA game. Not drinking is not so much the issue, imo: when you are a grown adult watching other grown adults play sport, it is somewhat grating to be treated like a kid, or like you are watching U13s.

 

[zeroseven]

Do the math. Sell 500 beers at mark up of $3.50 per home game brings in $15,750, less costs of bar staff (if any). Not a small amount but not a huge amount either.

Add the cost of delivery and storage of beer, plus having someone one around to receive the delivery then unpack the beer and load it into fridges. Who has fridges that can store 500 beers.

500 x $3.50 = ?????

 

[Max Leader]

500 x $3.50 = ?????

Margin on Beer. Being a non drinker I made the assumption. Beer costs $2.50 to buy and sell for $6.00.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

500 x $3.50 = ?????

He has his final figure right.

1750 x 9 home games = $15,750/season.

 

[SeaSide]

He has his final figure right.

1750 x 9 home games = $15,750/season.

AND 500 *9 home games = 4500 tinnies.

4500 tinnies at 10C each = an additional $450.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

That will cover a couple of umpire appointments. It all adds up.

 

[cromball90]

Nice pickup for Box Hill north from ChirnsidePark

 

[ButchersDog]

Nice pickup for Box Hill north from ChirnsidePark

Dragged one out of the nursing home

 

[localfootylegend23]

Dragged one out of the nursing home

Know nothing of the bloke but looks ancient! But then again Carnelley would have kicked a ton of goals if he played more than half the year at 40+ y/o, its bottom division footy if he is any good he won't have a problem