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Originally posted by Macca19


Jared is a very good player, but i dont think he would make it at AFL level. Altho he was on fire mid year...was getting Best player week in week out for almost two months at Port. He's a tad slow and not very strong in the upper body...and given he is fair short i dont think he would be suited to a midfield role at an AFL club.

Cameron is only 17 and seems to have more pace than Jared. I hope we get him with a rookie pick, as i reckon he will develop into a very good player.

I like them both as players. You may be right about Jared unfortunately. I liken him to James Wilson in that they both may have missed their AFL chance (sounds shocking to say a 21 year old is too old!).
 
Originally posted by Eago77


I like them both as players. You may be right about Jared unfortunately. I liken him to James Wilson in that they both may have missed their AFL chance (sounds shocking to say a 21 year old is too old!).

James Wilson is a strange one. He looked the goods in 2001, was confident, had ability, was quick, had a fairly penetrating kick and attacked the ball hard. I was pretty dissapointed we didnt at least put him on the rookie list, but the club must of seen something in him which they didnt like, at that became known this year.

James went so far backwards this year it aint funny, and i reckon he has missed the AFL Draft boat. Around mid year he lost all confidence and he turned into one of those players where you groan where he gets near the ball because you just know he is gonna turn it over. He turned into a Kingsley where as soon as he got the ball he had no idea what to do with it....ran around in circles, blind kicks, hospital handballs, plenty of being caught holding the ball.

Maybe he might get a chance on a rookie list, to see if he can develop his skills some more...might be worth a shot. He has the body, as he is well built and has pace...but his distinct lack of confidence and zero skills under pressure are his major downfall.

Jared is a good young player, but i think he would end up in sort of a troy makepeace type back pocket role if he got drafted into the AFL. He is 183cm which is about 6cm taller than i thought he was...but he does need to build up quite a bit.
 
Been reading what's available at a few different sites about the draft, and the emphasis is almost exclusively focused on athletes.
When you look at players like Dew, you would hate to think how low he would be rated under the same criteria.
What we need is a big fat porker of a kid that has a football brain and some aggro. One that can fill a key position.
Lockett and Dunstall would probably be looked at sideways nowadays.
Are there any fat kids on the block?
 

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Nope. Only exceptional porkers can beat the athletes.
 
Originally posted by Porthos
Nope. Only exceptional porkers can beat the athletes.
Pity. :)
Both Stuart Dew and Lance Whitnall have had special fitness programs at one stage or another, and they are both exceptional.

An athlete with a football brain is exceptional. An athlete alone is not, and I can't help but think that in the last few years some players have been drafted purely on their athletic ability, whereas others with a football brain have been passed over.

I can think of at least a couple that are only playing because they were lucky enough to make it on a rookie list.
 
Originally posted by PAfolwr
Pity. :)
Both Stuart Dew and Lance Whitnall have had special fitness programs at one stage or another, and they are both exceptional.
They've both enjoyed exceptionally high ratings too...Dew was rated the best available 17 year old in 1996.
 
Without getting into a debate of whether the athlete is better than the footballer (both are required IMO), the way players are scrutinised today, I agree that there is a better chance to pick up an athlete that can play football with early draft picks, but the players that make it with the later draft picks are usually the footballers. These are the ones that get passed over when teams are still looking for the athlete.
Some examples from our team of late picks are both Hardwick and Pickett.
Some that I can think of in more recent times are John**** and Medhurst.
 
Originally posted by PAfolwr

What we need is a big fat porker of a kid that has a football brain and some aggro. One that can fill a key position.

Are there any fat kids on the block?

Are you suggesting we draft Ricky Mott or Ryan O'Connor (hardly a kid, but a bit of a "porker")?
 
Is there any truth to the rumour that the Swans asked the AFL for a food allowance to be included in their salary cap, and when it was refused they promptly delisted Mott? :D
 

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