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[edgie]

Albo campaigned on the back of 'I'll step up and give it a go if you'd have enough of the other guys after so long', that was really about as laser focused as it got.

Shorten swung for the fences on every issue, Albo just played defensive with the occasional single waiting for the others to get boo'd.

 

[Festerz]

Live by the prosperity gospel and die by the prosperity gospel.

Reckon his imaginary friend thought it was time miracles were allocated to those who actually needed them.

 

[Festerz]

A special moment for Australian 'journalism'.

 

[Festerz]

Peta Credlin's solution this morning is for the Libs to move further to the right. I guess it would appease Paul Murray.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Un-Happy Clapper:

“Oh Father, why hast though forsaken me?”

 

[Ford Fairlane]

A special moment for Australian 'journalism'.

The resistance begins tonight! #rigged

 

[wannabejack]

A special moment for Australian 'journalism'.

Right in front of me.

 

[Del165198]

Barrie making his feelings known

Labor should restore some funding to the ABC. Not because they support the ALP, but because they're the only outlet that tries to be objective and oppose Murdoch.

Some of their stories on 4 corners and the 7:30 report have been outstanding.

 

[edgie]

A special moment for Australian 'journalism'.

Lol

I followed this bloke back in the day as he used to be critical of Abbott. Boy did I misread it, after Abbott he was critical of Turnball, then turned in to a complete Patsy for Morison. One of the best things to come out of having my facebook stolen and making a new one was the removal of this turd and his followers.

 

[Lawnchair Larry]

Some little things I want answered by Labor:

• Will the torture of Assange continue in a foreign prison? Bring him home. He's Australian. He's guilty of embarrassing the Yanks by revealing footage of US servicemen murdering civilian journalists
• Bernard Collaery and the East Timor blight on us. I want any charges dropped, and full revelation of who authorised bugging of conversations with the East Timorese govt. A certain LNP, now retired, Minister from SA might be involved. A ponce of a bloke, I might add.
• Kevin Rudd's demands for a media investigation into bias. Will there be an enquiry, and if so, what real action can be taken? Perhaps grants to small -medium enterprise media that present VALIDATED journalism. Even the playing field with diversity.

I guess there are bigger fish to fry, but they come to mind immediately to me as forgotten things.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Lel

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Will be funny if Labor are denied majority government because Kristina Keneally was rejected by the locals, for being parachuted in and knocking out a Vietnamese-Australian endorsed by the local branches, and she loses to an independent Vietnamese-Australian, because head office trampled on the locals.

The retiring member - Chris Hayes backed that the party preselect in his place Tu Le, a lawyer and the daughter of refugees from the Vietnam War, who had the support of the local branches.

Fowler covers Cabramatta-Fairfield-Liverpool-Warwick Farm-Bosley Park in western Sydney had a 15% Labor majority has always been a labor seat and is ethnically diverse with almost 60% of people born overseas and only 10% of people have both parents born in Oz.

Keneally lives in the northern beaches of Sydney on Scotland Island in the middle of Pittwater and was parachuted in from over 60km away and said she was going to buy a house in the area. Wonder if she signed a contract and the cooling off period has passed?

Diversity is more than just a (white) woman candidate with an American accent.

Antony Green has given the seat to independent Dai Le, an 18% swing against Labor. She was born in Vietnam came here as a kid, is a councilor at Fairfield Council, think deputy mayor, was a liberal candidate for the state seat of Cabramatta in a by election and then again in 2011 state election and almost won both times. The libs selected a Vietnamese Aussie as their candidate.

The big theme of this election by voters was go local, go independent, and Labor ****ed it up royally in Fowler and it might cost them majority government.

Did the same thing in Parramatta, parachuted in Rudd's former economic adviser Andrew Charlton from his very leafy Bellevue Hill home in eastern Sydney. Not quite as far, and Parramatta is a vibrant CBD in its own right these days. And in the dying days he came out and said that he wasn't registered to vote in Bellevue Hill or his new home of Parramatta but at his wife's rental property in Woollahra ( in eastern Sydney). But Labor got a very small swing there.

Both parties have had issues with local branches having their candidates overturned by HQ, the odd dodgy candidate endorsed by the locals, issues where they live, where they say they do and they actually do.

And they wonder why people in large numbers don't trust them and vote for them.

 

[Mikey13G]

Massive Green influence, god help us, cost of living and taxes will go through the roof

We are lucky a Labor /Teal/Green government is in power. There will be no more floods. No more bushfires. The climate variations will be ended immediately. The various new integrity commissions will eliminate corruption entirely...People need to be realistic about how quickly Australia can transition to net zero. The wealthy virtue signaling Teal/Greens voters in their Range Rovers will barely notice an increase in power costs, but the rest of us will as Australia reduces its 1% of global emissions.

I would've preferred for Labor to win a majority government so it doesn't have to concede too much. Interesting times!

 

[Del165198]

We are lucky a Labor /Teal/Green government is in power. There will be no more floods. No more bushfires. The climate variations will be ended immediately.

Who is saying this? What an embarrassing argument to make.

Instead of being an embarrassing disgrace dragging its feet on the world stage, we can start to join the table with the other developed nations.

Keeping climate change below 2deg requires global action. How can we expect that from others when with all our wealth, we've been doing very very little.

 

[Grave Danger]

 

[Andre]

We are lucky a Labor /Teal/Green government is in power. There will be no more floods. No more bushfires. The climate variations will be ended immediately. The various new integrity commissions will eliminate corruption entirely...People need to be realistic about how quickly Australia can transition to net zero. The wealthy virtue signaling Teal/Greens voters in their Range Rovers will barely notice an increase in power costs, but the rest of us will as Australia reduces its 1% of global emissions.

I would've preferred for Labor to win a majority government so it doesn't have to concede too much. Interesting times!

Let's see if any of the Teal independents really want to get to net zero or just want to by 'feels good and hoping'. Have any of them come out and said Nuclear needs to be a part of the mix? That's my yardstick as to whether people are serious about Climate change or it's an ideological crusade for them.

 

[NoddyHolder]

Albo campaigned on the back of 'I'll step up and give it a go if you'd have enough of the other guys after so long', that was really about as laser focused as it got.

Shorten swung for the fences on every issue, Albo just played defensive with the occasional single waiting for the others to get boo'd.

Albo used the exact same small target strategy that got Howard elected in 96. Don't do or say anything and let the electorate's disdain for the incumbent do the work.
For those too young to remember Howard was seen as a piss weak perennial loser and a joke before becoming PM. Went on to be second longest serving PM ever. Horrid little campaigner

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Toby Ralph on Gruen said sitting PMs lose elections and the party marketing strategy is to raise the bar enough to show your guy is less shit than the incumbent.

 

[Mikey13G]

Who is saying this? What an embarrassing argument to make.

Instead of being an embarrassing disgrace dragging its feet on the world stage, we can start to join the table with the other developed nations.

Keeping climate change below 2deg requires global action. How can we expect that from others when with all our wealth, we've been doing very very little.

Queensland had a huge swing towards The Greens in areas that had been impacted by floods.

We should address climate change, but The Greens policy of being net zero by 2030 is pie in the sky stuff when we have no nuclear energy. The National party didn’t lose a seat, and they stuck to conservative policies. The “broad church “ Liberals lost a swag of seats in the inner city with academics and wealthy activists abound.

 

[Andre]

Who is saying this? What an embarrassing argument to make.

Instead of being an embarrassing disgrace dragging its feet on the world stage, we can start to join the table with the other developed nations.

Keeping climate change below 2deg requires global action. How can we expect that from others when with all our wealth, we've been doing very very little.

Global is the key. Australians could go live in mud huts or everyone adopt 5 methane making cows and it'd barely move the needle either way. The way Australia can make a GLOBAL difference is if we'd massively up Uranium mined (and ideally processed here before shipping). Greens aren't serious whilst they don't support that. They chose hating Capitalism and NIMBYism over true pragmatic action.

 

[Del165198]

Global is the key. Australians could go live in mud huts or everyone adopt 5 methane making cows and it'd barely move the needle either way. The way Australia can make a GLOBAL difference is if we'd massively up Uranium mined (and ideally processed here before shipping). Greens aren't serious whilst they don't support that. They chose hating Capitalism and NIMBYism over true pragmatic action.

The rest of the world isn't demanding massive amounts of uranium, so whats the point of doing that?

We can't fix climate change on our own, no ones claiming that. People are just demanding that Australia doesn't choose to be a global disgrace trying to coal and gas themselves to death.

If every country goes oh well we're only 1 or 2 or 3 % of emissions, so it doesn't really matter, nothing happens. Get it?

 

[Andre]

The rest of the world isn't demanding massive amounts of uranium, so whats the point of doing that?

We can't fix climate change on our own, no ones claiming that. People are just demanding that Australia doesn't choose to be a global disgrace trying to coal and gas themselves to death.

If every country goes oh well we're only 1 or 2 or 3 % of emissions, so it doesn't really matter, nothing happens. Get it?

The reality is China, US and India between them have over 50% of the emissions. It's what they do that will make or break it. China is looking at a heap more Coal power plants. If we upped Uranium and as part of our global attack on emissions looked to get them that at a price that makes it cheaper than coal we'd do many times over reducing emissions then what making us all go Vegetarian and putting every 4WD into a giant pit would.

 

[raman]

If weed gets legalised we’re gonna need more fish and chips.

ahem, Pauline

 

[Mikey13G]

The rest of the world isn't demanding massive amounts of uranium, so whats the point of doing that?

We can't fix climate change on our own, no ones claiming that. People are just demanding that Australia doesn't choose to be a global disgrace trying to coal and gas themselves to death.

If every country goes oh well we're only 1 or 2 or 3 % of emissions, so it doesn't really matter, nothing happens. Get it?

First of all start by talking the truth about climate change and Australia.

We produce less than 1% of green house gases. We have 16 coal fire power plants and all will be closed by 2040. We have among the "cleanest" coal in the world. We have a third of the worlds uranium supply but no nuclear power plants.

On the other hand China produces over a third of green house gases and has among the "dirtiest" coal in the world. China currently has over 1,500 coal fire power stations in service and is in the process of building another 1,000.

By 2060 China will still have over 1,000 coal fire power stations in service.20 years after we close our last coal fire power station.

China currently has 40+ nuclear power plants (in service or being built) and plans to build another 150 which will be more reactors than the combined total of rest of the world.

When it comes to reducing green house gases what ever Australia does will mean **** all.

 

[edgie]

If every country that was 1 or 2 percent says **** it and does nothing... It has almost the same effect as if they were to do something.

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