• Please read this post on the rules on BigFooty regarding posting copyright material, including fair dealing rules. Repeat infringements could see your account limited or closed.

Dons players could launch legal action to end investigation

Remove this Banner Ad

carlton2dabone said:
25. The Club was originally billed by Alavi for 7 vials of Hexarelin (in addition to those
supplied on 10 January 2012) and 26 vials of “peptide Thymosin” (at a combined cost of
$9860) which are listed on the invoice as having been delivered on 18 January 2012.

34. There is no record of Como Compounding Pharmacy having supplied the Club with
“Thymomodulin (Thymosin)”. The only relevant invoice relates to “Peptide Thymosin” –
but Como Compounding Pharmacy subsequently reversed that transaction (debit to credit)
Click to expand...

Something to consider...

26 vials doesn't seem like enough to inject a team of 40 over the course of a season. "1 Thymosin injection once a week for six weeks and then 1 injection per month,'' Looks like enough for maybe 1 or 2 players.

34. Also, there is no record of Como supplying TB4.
 
Something else for the brainstrust out there. From the EFC notice of charges...
27.In late May 2012 Dank discovered that the Thymosin he had been providing the play
ers (Thymosin Beta-4) was in fact prohibited.
Click to expand...

Then in April 2013 the McKenzie Interview
there is good data – very good data – that supports Thymosin Beta 4 in the immune system.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-science-of-stephen-dank-20130823-2shhd.html#ixzz32oYHEsuh
Click to expand...

Are we to believe that he spoke to a journalist about administering TB4 to players and not realising it was banned, after he had already come to this realisation less than a year before?
 
Duckworth said:
Something else for the brainstrust out there. From the EFC notice of charges...


Then in April 2013 the McKenzie Interview


Are we to believe that he spoke to a journalist about administering TB4 to players and not realising it was banned, after he had already come to this realisation less than a year before?
Click to expand...
Why is when he knew it was banned even slightly important?
 

Log in to remove this ad.

Duckworth said:
Something else for the brainstrust out there. From the EFC notice of charges...


Then in April 2013 the McKenzie Interview


Are we to believe that he spoke to a journalist about administering TB4 to players and not realising it was banned, after he had already come to this realisation less than a year before?
Click to expand...

People are that stupid, even though you may not believe it
 
Duckworth said:
Something to consider...

26 vials doesn't seem like enough to inject a team of 40 over the course of a season. "1 Thymosin injection once a week for six weeks and then 1 injection per month,'' Looks like enough for maybe 1 or 2 players.

34. Also, there is no record of Como supplying TB4.
Click to expand...


Things you need to keep in mind I have highlighted below:

25. The Club was originally billed by Alavi for 7 vials of Hexarelin (in addition to those
supplied on 10 January 2012) and 26 vials of “peptide Thymosin” (at a combined cost of
$9860) which are listed on the invoice as having been delivered on 18 January 2012


So there were more vials billed, paid for and delivered earlier than 18 January 2012.
(meaning there were products supplied a whole eight days earlier than this batch)

Also, if the product was listed on the invoice as delivered, what happened to it?
A little too convenient that EFC had paid invoices and listed them as delivered if they never received the product in question, don't you think?
 
Duckworth said:
There are invoices for 'thymosin' that are 'unspecified' you do not know which kind it was. Those same invoices were all re-credited in full. As such, according to those invoices Essendon did not pay for any thymosin.
Click to expand...

You might find ASADA know exactly what type it is. That's all that matters. Seemed pretty clear on the interim report. If you think that technicality will get you out of the poo your're dreaming.

Dank already admitted that he gave Essendon TB4 in an AGE interview last year. Spin all you like, it came out of Danks' mouth.
 
carlton2dabone said:
Things you need to keep in mind I have highlighted below:

25. The Club was originally billed by Alavi for 7 vials of Hexarelin (in addition to those
supplied on 10 January 2012) and 26 vials of “peptide Thymosin” (at a combined cost of
$9860) which are listed on the invoice as having been delivered on 18 January 2012


So there were more vials billed, paid for and delivered earlier than 18 January 2012.
(meaning there were products supplied a whole eight days earlier than this batch)

Also, if the product was listed on the invoice as delivered, what happened to it?
A little too convenient that EFC had paid invoices and listed them as delivered if they never received the product in question, don't you think?
Click to expand...

Things you need to keep in mind - re-credited the club for the costs of Hexarelin and Thymosin. That's right - all of it. As for what happens to products when you return them? I'm sure you can work that out.
 
Jimthegreat said:
Dank already admitted that he gave Essendon TB4 in an AGE interview last year. Spin all you like, it came out of Danks' mouth.
Click to expand...
Dank also described the properties of 'Thymomodulin' and later clarified to say that was what was administered. That McKenzie interview is not the smoking gun people think it is.
 
Duckworth said:
Things you need to keep in mind - re-credited the club for the costs of Hexarelin and Thymosin. That's right - all of it. As for what happens to products when you return them? I'm sure you can work that out.
Click to expand...

(b) on 29 February 2012, Como issued an amended invoice to the Club which re-credited the Club for the costs of the Hexarelin, however the reason for the re-
ME_107794419_1 (W2007)
27
crediting was not because the Club had not received Hexarelin (as Hexarelin was in fact present at the Club and was provided by Dank to staff of the Club).
 
Armchair Critic said:
(b) on 29 February 2012, Como issued an amended invoice to the Club which re-credited the Club for the costs of the Hexarelin, however the reason for the re-
ME_107794419_1 (W2007)
27
crediting was not because the Club had not received Hexarelin (as Hexarelin was in fact present at the Club and was provided by Dank to staff of the Club).
Click to expand...

See, this is what Duckworth cannot comprehend. Duckworth wants to believe that the re-crediting was because the payment for and delivery of these substances were a mistake so they got their money back and returned the items.

What he can't comprehend is that if the payment and delivery of these substances were a mistake then why the hell did the Hexarelin not get returned back to Alavi, instead it stayed on club premises and was administered to the staff.

If anyone believes that the club was re-credited for both of these substances but kept Hexarelin (even though EFC argues that it paid for it by mistake and got it delivered by mistake) and returned only the Thymosin, then that person is a fool who believes in an alternate universe.
 
tigerwill said:
I think what you may mean is that the AFL endorses the AFLPA looking after the players. Not looking after the EFC. Big difference there.The AFLPA lawyers aren't representing the EFC. I bet if it comes down to it the AFLPA will throw the EFC under the bus while trying to look after the players interests first and foremost. If they can.
Click to expand...

Who said they were looking after EFC - The AFLPA represents the players.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

jenny61_99 said:
But are paid for by the clubs or the afl. Potential conflict of interest?
Click to expand...
He who pays the piper calls the tune...

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
 
TheGodDelusion said:
Not quite, but never mind, it's not the only thing you've been wrong about.
Click to expand...

Matey, you couldn't be more delusional if you tried. :drunk: I'm sure my opinion will be shown to be either justified or not by the end of this and I'll be happy to cop my whack if it's shown to be incorrect.
 
jenny61_99 said:
Matey, you couldn't be more delusional if you tried. :drunk: I'm sure my opinion will be shown to be either justified or not by the end of this and I'll be happy to cop my whack if it's shown to be incorrect.
Click to expand...

Oh you got me. :confused::mad::p:eek:.

Would you contend that there hasn't been ample evidence of stupidity on both sides of the debate so far? Why would such an observation invite a response of "bugger off back to your clubs board" if said invitee wasn't a tad touchy?

I wasn't referring to your opinions during this saga, simply that as a human you, like me and everyone else, is not infallible.

Oh, and lighten up, life's too short.
 
TheGodDelusion said:
Oh you got me. :confused::mad::p:eek:.

Would you contend that there hasn't been ample evidence of stupidity on both sides of the debate so far? Why would such an observation invite a response of "bugger off back to your clubs board" if said invitee wasn't a tad touchy?

I wasn't referring to your opinions during this saga, simply that as a human you, like me and everyone else, is not infallible.

Oh, and lighten up, life's too short.
Click to expand...

I can't answer for what others have written. Lots of touchy people on both sides of the fence if you ask me. And yes, agreed, ample evidence of stupidity on both sides. And I'm lightened, thank you. ;) You don't live this long and not know how to sort the shit from the cart.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Dons players could launch legal action to end investigation

Similar threads

A
This is the way to treat drug cheats
2
Replies
25
Views
2K
PoppedCorn
PoppedCorn

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top