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[Timmy from Thomastown]

What’s this “ confirm action” bullshit every time I like a post?

Can I disable it?

 

[jmac70]

Looks like you think my prediction about eye rolls being penalised will be a definite starter in 2023. That is definitely a sign of dissent and a questioning of the validity of the umpire's decision.

As long as egg rolls are ok, everything will be cool in my world.

 

[Black_White]

Did you actually read the article? People are still watching the footy in huge numbers, but Kayo has taken a larger and larger market share from FoxFooty and Channel Seven.

Mayo has not replaced those that are no longer watching FTA.
They are majority made up of Foxtel disconnectors.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Mayo has not replaced those that are no longer watching FTA.
They are majority made up of Foxtel disconnectors.

Maybe so but overall ratings haven’t dropped in the past three years or so. Streaming has picked up market share from other alternatives.

 

[The Phantom]

Kayo drives me insane. It freezes, lags, drops picture quality more than every other streaming service I have combined.
It’s delivery network clearly needs a bandwidth boost.

 

[Anzacday]

Kayo drives me insane. It freezes, lags, drops picture quality more than every other streaming service I have combined.
It’s delivery network clearly needs a bandwidth boost.

The other annoying thing I noticed is you can‘t resume watching a replay, (unlike Foxtel) it takes you back to the beginning.

 

[35Daicos]

For comparison: AFL Tables - Miscellaneous Player Records

 

[#26]

Prefer the Kayo commentators to the C7 ones. They're less hysterical.

 

[Dynamics]

Personal view of Kayo:

I never had Foxtel but have stumped up for Kayo this year and I'm happy with it. Haven't had any dropouts or other technical issues. I'm also a fan of the NBA and enjoy other US sports and will occasionally watch the cricket. So it's pretty decent value for me right now. Especially as I'm an interstate supporter and also enjoy watching neutral games.

If Rupert splashed out on English Premier League rights I'd be an ironed on customer.

 

[Black_White]

Prefer the Kayo commentators to the C7 ones. They're less hysterical.

You are saying you prefer Fox comms.
But of course there will be games on Kano that are 7 comms. Because Kayla is Fox, and even Fox use 7 as the broadcast supplier. Especially Friday nights which is exclusive 7 broadcasts.

 

[Black_White]

Maybe so but overall ratings haven’t dropped in the past three years or so. Streaming has picked up market share from other alternatives.

Streaming has not picked up those who have dropped off 7 broadcasts. The vast majority of those have left the game.
Only Fox watchers have picked up streaming in any great numbers when cancelling Foxtel.
Hard to use the last few years as true figures considering the covid lockdowns and exclusions of live audiences. Surely those live audiences jumped on FTA and streams for footy. Now that has changed we see the dramatic fall of ratings, giving us a truer picture of just how tampering with the rules is affecting the audience.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Streaming has not picked up those who have dropped off 7 broadcasts. The vast majority of those have left the game.
Only Fox watchers have picked up streaming in any great numbers when cancelling Foxtel.

Fair enough, although overall viewership hasn’t fallen as viewing habits change so I can’t see why the AFL couldn’t or shouldn’t shop around to other streaming services.

Not sure I see the connection to rule changes though. The 6-6-6 rule has been the best rule change since deliberate out of bounds back in the 60s and high scoring is back. This has also exposed the shit teams for their shitness whereas in past years they might be able to paper over the cracks with negative play and even fluke some wins in low scoring games where the result can be somewhat of a lottery.

 

[35Daicos]

Fair enough, although overall viewership hasn’t fallen as viewing habits change so I can’t see why the AFL couldn’t or shouldn’t shop around to other streaming services.

Not sure I see the connection to rule changes though. The 6-6-6 rule has been the best rule change since deliberate out of bounds back in the 60s and high scoring is back. This has also exposed the shit teams for their shitness whereas in past years they might be able to paper over the cracks with negative play and even fluke some wins in low scoring games where the result can be somewhat of a lottery.

The game is fantastic to watch again! High scoring has indeed returned, and the big key forwards are back in the game. I'm thrilled with the way the game looks today, as opposed to how it was for so many years where ugly defensive tactics (and low scoring) dominated. Last year was a major turning point for the AFL, and it's improved look owes pretty much everything to some vital rule changes/tweaks that have been introduced. They don't always get things right with that, but they have in this case, and deserve nothing but praise for it's positive effect.

Unfortunately, there are some people who will always look for things to whinge about. Australian football supporters would be among the worst of them (though I suspect fans of sports like rugby league and soccer do the same sort of thing)! Ever since the game/competition started fans have been complaining about umpiring, rule changes, and later tribunal/MRP decisions. It's hilarious to me that some like to act as if fans being angry or disenchanted is a new thing!!

 

[gouki88]

The game is fantastic to watch again! High scoring has indeed returned, and the big key forwards are back in the game. I'm thrilled with the way the game looks today, as opposed to how it was for so many years where ugly defensive tactics (and low scoring) dominated. Last year was a major turning point for the AFL, and it's improved look owes pretty much everything to some vital rule changes/tweaks that have been introduced. They don't always get things right with that, but they have in this case, and deserve nothing but praise for it's positive effect.

Unfortunately, there are some people who will always look for things to whinge about. Australian football supporters would be among the worst of them (though I suspect fans of sports like rugby league and soccer do the same sort of thing)! Ever since the game/competition started fans have been complaining about umpiring, rule changes, and later tribunal/MRP decisions. It's hilarious to me that some like to act as if fans being angry or disenchanted is a new thing!!

I think the spectacle is definitely at a better level than the last few years (besides the St Kilda v Port game!), but I think there are some real areas for improvement. Mainly the knee-jerk rule changes / interpretation changes.

 

[VinnieB]

Streaming has not picked up those who have dropped off 7 broadcasts. The vast majority of those have left the game.
Only Fox watchers have picked up streaming in any great numbers when cancelling Foxtel.
Hard to use the last few years as true figures considering the covid lockdowns and exclusions of live audiences. Surely those live audiences jumped on FTA and streams for footy. Now that has changed we see the dramatic fall of ratings, giving us a truer picture of just how tampering with the rules is affecting the audience.

I believe the ANZAC Day game resulted in an all-time record audience for Foxtel for a regular season game.

"The 2022 ANZAC Day AFL match between Essendon and Collingwood has proven to be a huge ratings success for Channel 7 and Foxtel.
The historic ANZAC Day clash was watched by a national average audience of 1,353 million (free-to-air and subscription) as Collingwood secured an 11-point victory over Essendon in the gripping blockbuster at the MCG.

Free-To-Air coverage of the match on Channel 7 and 7Mate averaged 822,000 nationally, up 21% on the 2021 AFL series average.

Played in front of an 84,000-strong crowd, the match helped Seven secure a huge daytime network share of 47%.

The Anzac Day thriller was also hugely successful for the Fox Footy with a record number of fans tuning in across the platforms of Foxtel and Kayo.

Data obtained by TV Blackbox reveals the annual blockbuster ANZAC Day clash between Essendon and Collingwood achieved a national average audience of 531K across the broadcast and streaming platforms of Foxtel and Kayo.

The stellar ratings result means the match is now the highest ratings regular-season AFL game of all time for the Foxtel Group."

 

[#26]

Do they still talk about teams going through heavy training loads to explain flat spots during the season? I feel like I haven't heard that mentioned for awhile.

 

[neilk]

Do they still talk about teams going through heavy training loads to explain flat spots during the season? I feel like I haven't heard that mentioned for awhile.

Usually closer to the finals.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I think the spectacle is definitely at a better level than the last few years (besides the St Kilda v Port game!), but I think there are some real areas for improvement. Mainly the knee-jerk rule changes / interpretation changes.

Do they still talk about teams going through heavy training loads to explain flat spots during the season? I feel like I haven't heard that mentioned for awhile.

Four interchange and a sub and two bye rounds before the finals suggests to me that overdoing training loads might be an old fashioned idea...

 

[sr36]

Unfortunately, there are some people who will always look for things to whinge about. Australian football supporters would be among the worst of them (though I suspect fans of sports like rugby league and soccer do the same sort of thing)!

Rugby league and soccer fans are generally happy with rules. In many ways, their rules and games have stood up better to athletes improving and also becoming better at playing to the fine line and coaches tactics altering. They haven't needed to continually tweak the rules like AFL and Rugby Union have. You can basically teach someone the soccer and League rules really quickly. It takes a life time to understand the rules and their interpretations in AFL and Union.

 

[sideswipe]

Pendles is spot on. Time to ditch the bounce. Umps should throw it up all the time.


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[jmac70]

Pendles is spot on. Time to ditch the bounce. Umps should throw it up all the time.


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Should have happened years ago. No point to it other than a show piece for umpires.
Great umpires are the ones not noticed by the crowd.

 

[The Phantom]

Disagree.
It’s part of the unique Australian DNA of the game.
It’s gotta stay.

The umpires just need to do their job.
Paint an extra circle on the ground and add a rule if you must.

I want to get to the game in time for the centre bounce.

Not an American basketball tip off.
Spare us.

 

[sideswipe]

Disagree.
It’s part of the unique Australian DNA of the game.
It’s gotta stay.

The umpires just need to do their job.
Paint an extra circle on the ground and add a rule if you must.

I want to get to the game in time for the centre bounce.

Not an American basketball tip off.
Spare us.

I bet most barely notice when the umps choose to throw it up in the centre. They do it quite often.

Only sport I can think of that requires a “skill” from an umpire. The removal of it will help umpire retention.


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[Anzacday]

I’m happy for the ball to be bounced to start the game or maybe each quarter.
They replaced the ball being bounced around the ground with it being thrown up.
The game is better for it and will be better for a consistent centre “bounce” experience imo.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I like the bounce… call me old fashioned. It also challenges the ruckman a bit more as they need to read the flight of the ball with the random changes in direction you won’t get from a straight ball up. It probably also gives the umpire more time to get out of the bloody way. Unless there’s any evidence that umpires are leaving the game because they can’t do it then I’d prefer to leave it as is… bounce at start of quarters and after goals, weather permitting