Rumour Draft Rumours 2024 - No rumours allowed

[bzparkes]

I agree he is number 1 but I dont think he is a clear number 1.

He's number 1 and it isn't even close.

Tigers need to do their part and make Brisbane pay.

 

[G String]

I agree with your first point. Would counter your point on Ashcroft with FOS who seems a consensus top 3 pick despite having a pretty avwrage year, even when considering some injuries. Can’t imagine he’d a top 10 pick last year.

With FOS I think it is mostly based on his form from last year as a bottom ager when he wasn't injured - dominated juniors 22/23 - came into 2024 rated number 1. Has a very high ceiling - can't imagine he'd drop out of the top 3 in any draft

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He's number 1 and it isn't even close.

Tigers need to do their part and make Brisbane pay.

There would be a 'handshake' deal to not bid at 1 when they traded for Brisbane's first (pick 18)

 

[bzparkes]

There would be a 'handshake' deal to not bid at 1 when they traded for Brisbane's first (pick 18)

True.

Didn't the AFL recently warn clubs against this though?

 

[hawkinoz]

What sort of deal for F1?
Do you accept F1,F3 for 16, 37, F2 with GWS?

Hawks will have Blues F1+33 on offer for GWS pick 16+F3

GWS can then seek to also trade 33+37 if needed

Age had a mock draft and that has us taking Harrison Oliver at 34 who they themselves state is the best small defender

https://archive.is/4PDoZ

Shows how deep the draft is. ( PS : error in article as they have Essendon picking before us but don't have a pick due to kako bid)

There would be a 'handshake' deal to not bid at 1 when they traded for Brisbane's first (pick 18)

Except Tigers paid overs(500+ pts) on that deal, so not sure how there can be handshake deal.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

True.

Didn't the AFL recently warn clubs against this though?

Yeah okay, good luck policing it. They will say that a bid in the top 3 is 'reasonable'. Richmond will claim they had Lalor or FOS top on their board, and lets be real they could have.

 

[bzparkes]

Yeah okay, good luck policing it. They will say that a bid in the top 3 is 'reasonable'. Richmond will claim they had Lalor or FOS top on their board, and lets be real they could have.

Yeah I guess.

As long as Saints make bids on Lombard and Kako though. Would be massively hypocritical after their president's whinge if they don't.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

I agree he is number 1 but I dont think he is a clear number 1.

By every relevant measure

He is the clear No.1

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Yeah I guess.

As long as Saints make bids on Lombard and Kako though. Would be massively hypocritical after their president's whinge if they don't.

Hugely

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yeah I guess.

As long as Saints make bids on Lombard and Kako though. Would be massively hypocritical after their president's whinge if they don't.

Kako makes sense for their needs anyway I actually wouldn't be shocked if Melbourne do at 5 for Kako

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Yeah I guess.

As long as Saints make bids on Lombard and Kako though. Would be massively hypocritical after their president's whinge if they don't.

But no need for other clubs? Glad you think the points are all hunky. Righto.

 

[Mutineer]

I agree he is number 1 but I dont think he is a clear number 1.

And you'd be spot on, several have higher ceilings.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Nah man, but we’d need to be guaranteed of Tauru, if that’s our main target. Massive danger we lose him to Melbourne or Richmond….its kind of important don’t ya think? You get pick 2 though so all good.

Firstly, you’re acting as if you’re actually negotiating on behalf of North Melbourne, and that we’re acting on behalf of our clubs, and that you and we have the authority to do these deals, and that what any of us says or thinks counts for a damn.

I hate to break it to you, but none of that is the case.

So the rest of us (or at least most of us) are just talking about HYPOTHETICALS and whether we think they’re viable options for those who’s opinions do matter, or fair or not.

And FWIW, the deal I said I thought was very fair all round did NOT result in my team getting pick 2. Which is my personal ideal outcome. Richmond got it.

So I didn’t “get my pick 2 so it’s all good”. Yet I was still mature enough to say I thought it was a very fair deal all round.

With a caveat that it was all dependent on whether Tauru would be there at 7.

But again, that’s just my opinion, and it doesn’t count for shit, so there’s no need to get petulant about it.

 

[aussierulesrules]

So Cal on Gettable today mentioned the possibility of North and Adelaide doing a pick swap, which was a possibility I mentioned a couple of days ago.

If North are indeed white-hot for Tauru, and seriously considering picking him at 2, and think Melbourne are a serious potential threat at 5 (if he’s still on the board there), then it could easily be in both those clubs best interests.

North get some extra value with Tauru (even if it’s just a couple of F3’s) that they wouldn’t get if they took him at 2, and Adelaide get to move up ahead of Carlton, and get their choice of FOS, Draper, etc, for not much extra outlay.

 

[Captain Furious]

In our forward line next year we will have Larkey and Darling, Finbar Maley showing good signs in the VFL, Callum Coleman-Jones will come back from a slightly delayed pre-season and then we can rotate Teakle and Pink through. Comben can play both ends but primarily he will assist Logue and Corr with Kallan Dawson and Pink also depth. Then there's a first rounder from last year named Wil Dawson who is turning into a second Comben, a hulking competitive beast that can do it both ends. This isn't mentioning Xerri and Goad in the rucks. That's a third of our list that are talls.

Now I'll note you said "good talls" and ours across the board are generally not high prospects but with the old "big men take time" adage I would say it's less likely now they want to draft heavily in this area and more likely Clarkson wants us looking in other areas to recruit these guys.

It will become clear pretty quickly - if 2 gets traded out we will look at the better crop of these KPP players. If we hold 2 though we're not drafting Tauru there, you can bet on FOS or Draper wearing blue and white next year.

All those names you mentioned are exemplary proof Kangas need to invest in quality talls.

 

[Wild Bill]

True.

Didn't the AFL recently warn clubs against this though?

There is not much they can do about if the Tigers don't bid.

All they have to say is we think a player was better.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

All those names you mentioned are exemplary proof Kangas need to invest in quality talls.

I did cover that in the second paragraph.

Unfortunately whether you think that or I think that the recruitment policy has been clear, not to mention Clarko likes to poach his KPP's if he hasn't been gifted two of the best ever to start his job.

 

[4tune8]

So Cal on Gettable today mentioned the possibility of North and Adelaide doing a pick swap, which was a possibility I mentioned a couple of days ago.

If North are indeed white-hot for Tauru, and seriously considering picking him at 2, and think Melbourne are a serious potential threat at 5 (if he’s still on the board there), then it could easily be in both those clubs best interests.

North get some extra value with Tauru (even if it’s just a couple of F3’s) that they wouldn’t get if they took him at 2, and Adelaide get to move up ahead of Carlton, and get their choice of FOS, Draper, etc, for not much extra outlay.

I think the whole premise behind North splitting 2 is to get a shot at Tauru and another 1st round pick this year.

Dropping back a couple of spots for 2 x F3's defeats that purpose.

Looks like Clarko has bent Rawlings over a barrel by demanding that a trade get done for Daniel, that pick 25 would have garnered some serious bargaining power.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Cal or the other dude also said that North have been doing a lot of work on guys expected to go in the teens, so either they’re hoping to bring forward their F1, or they’re possibly considering Richmond’s offer for pick 2.

He also thought Richmond weren’t really pushing for 2 any more though I think, which is possibly because North think Melbourne taking Tauru at 5 is a real threat.

So North bring forward their F1 looks more likely.

 

[sr36]

All those names you mentioned are exemplary proof Kangas need to invest in quality talls.

Tend to agree, but not many teams have more than 3 good KPPs. Larkey is good, Comben looks really likely to me. No idea how Dawson is progressing.

I'd be taking Tauru if I was them, but don't think it's that urgent for the Knagas.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I think the whole premise behind North splitting 2 is to get a shot at Tauru and another 1st round pick this year.

Dropping back a couple of spots for 2 x F3's defeats that purpose.

North may have originally thought that Tauru would still be available at 6 or 7 though, which is why they were hoping to either trade it for say 6 and a teens pick, or potentially trade it for 7 and whatever they could get with our F1.

But if Melbourne taking him at 5 has become a serious possibility of late, they might have had to go to plan B. If they are indeed committed to taking Tauru.

And plan B may be a pick swap with Adelaide, and trading out their F1.

Looks like Clarko has bent Rawlings over a barrel by demanding that a trade get done for Daniel, that pick 25 would have garnered some serious bargaining power.

Yeah that looks like a pretty putrid trade. I totally get that he’s not as good as Daniel, but they could have even grabbed Bonner for nothing, instead.

He was perfectly solid as a running HB this year and half way through the year he was ranked the no.7 field kick in the comp.

He could have done a solid enough job for a year or two, rather than spending a pick that is probably equivalent to pick 16 in a normal draft, on a 28yo.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I think the whole premise behind North splitting 2 is to get a shot at Tauru and another 1st round pick this year.

Dropping back a couple of spots for 2 x F3's defeats that purpose.

Looks like Clarko has bent Rawlings over a barrel by demanding that a trade get done for Daniel, that pick 25 would have garnered some serious bargaining power.

I saw a pertinent point made on our board that North spent a bit of time looking like we were gung ho on Dan Curtin last year to the extent he was linked to us, some with certainty, much like Tauru is this year. Now I don't know what a Crows upgrade would look like but I suspect this is a sweet spot trade scenario that may still see one of our top two targets there at four. Does Richmond want Lalor or FOS? Jagga? Are the Crows coming in for Draper or could they see this as their shot at FOS or Lalor? Jagga might be the guy for the Blues. It could be Tauru, sure, but nothing compels me to believe it would be here.

 

[LB2Snake]

Firstly, you’re acting as if you’re actually negotiating on behalf of North Melbourne, and that we’re acting on behalf of our clubs, and that you and we have the authority to do these deals, and that what any of us says or thinks counts for a damn.

I hate to break it to you, but none of that is the case.

So the rest of us (or at least most of us) are just talking about HYPOTHETICALS and whether we think they’re viable options for those who’s opinions do matter, or fair or not.

And FWIW, the deal I said I thought was very fair all round did NOT result in my team getting pick 2. Which is my personal ideal outcome. Richmond got it.

So I didn’t “get my pick 2 so it’s all good”. Yet I was still mature enough to say I thought it was a very fair deal all round.

With a caveat that it was all dependent on whether Tauru would be there at 7.

But again, that’s just my opinion, and it doesn’t count for shit, so there’s no need to get petulant about it.

Gezuz mate. I’m petulant and narcissistic. GAGF’d.
How you trackin’ ya think? Condescending comes to mind.
It’s all hypothetical, doesn’t mean I have to agree with em.
It’s a forum. None of us know jack shit.

 

[Andy_Mac]

We won’t take Tauru at two so the threat is immaterial. The choice is to offer North something better than FOS or Draper, or to leave the pick order as it is, meaning Melbourne will miss out on top line midfielders, and Richmond just get one. It’s pretty simple.

How do you figure Melbourne miss on one of the top line mids? Excluding Ashcroft, there are 5 of them. Based on the latest mocks, the Dee's end up with the choice of Smith or Draper. Or are you discounting Smith?

 

[Makeshift Park]

How do you figure Melbourne miss on one of the top line mids? Excluding Ashcroft, there are 5 of them. Based on the latest mocks, the Dee's end up with the choice of Smith or Draper. Or are you discounting Smith?

Suppose its all a bit subjective, but I don't have 5 plus Ashcroft.

I have Lalor, FOS, Draper, Smith... then Langford and Smillie.