Rumour Draft Rumours 2024 - No rumours allowed

[Rich01]

So Bo Allan at 6?

What are you basing this on?

 

[stavro#4]

Langford or FOS for the Dees at pick 5 (6).

Lalor, Ashcroft, Smith, Draper and Tauru will be picked by then.

So just like the reporting said yesterday

 

[stavro#4]

What are you basing this on?

Being a smart ass. Because Richmond has been quiet.

 

[Rich01]

Being a smart ass. Because Richmond has been quiet.

To be fair, Taylor, Hartley and SOS have been very quiet, meaning that picks 5-11 will be hard to guess until draft night.

 

[stavro#4]

To be fair, Taylor, Hartley and SOS have been very quiet, meaning that picks 5-11 will be hard to guess until draft night.

7 (SOS) Will be the most predictable pick of the night. It will be whoever is left.

Unless FOS or Jagga get to 6. I reckon Hartley is locked into Smillie over Langford.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

What are you basing this on?

 

[Trav 20]

That doesn’t look like Draper..

It looks exactly like Draper.

 

[Fear The Beard]

Got any other goss for us FTB?

No goss. Just reading the tea leaves on this subject.

 

[Rich01]

7 (SOS) Will be the most predictable pick of the night. It will be whoever is left.

Unless FOS or Jagga get to 6. I reckon Hartley is locked into Smillie over Langford.

Yeah who knows how the tigers have ranked them. They have been really open in the past in ranking players and putting them on a list and then just ticking them off when they get picked. Blair was again open about this when talking about whether they bid for Ashcroft.

How they have ranked the first six in the open draft has been kept quiet. Personally I think the Smillie talk comes through lazy journalism in the fact there are six top mids and the other clubs seem to prefer 5 higher than Smillie, leaving Richmond as the default. Couple that with Hartley having some affiliation with Smillies junior club and it’s a jackpot for locking him in at 6.

I can see how people have bought into the Smillie being a lock at 6 narrative though.

Personally I’m enjoying the club being a vault, for once.

 

[sydney_gws]

North should just take that offer. Why look a gift horse in the mouth? They'll stay ahead of Melbourne and still be able to get Tauru.

Adelaide and North could agree a
2 for 4 ,F3,F3 trade, with a handshake agreement to do a trade in 2025 where north gets Adelaide's 2025r2 in exchange for Norths 2025r3,2026r3

 

[stavro#4]

Yeah who knows how the tigers have ranked them. They have been really open in the past in ranking players and putting them on a list and then just ticking them off when they get picked. Blair was again open about this when talking about whether they bid for Ashcroft.

How they have ranked the first six in the open draft has been kept quiet. Personally I think the Smillie talk comes through lazy journalism in the fact there are six top mids and the other clubs seem to prefer 5 higher than Smillie, leaving Richmond as the default. Couple that with Hartley having some affiliation with Smillies junior club and it’s a jackpot for locking him in at 6.

I can see how people have bought into the Smillie being a lock at 6 narrative though.

Personally I’m enjoying the club being a vault, for once.

Re Smillie at 6 talk.

People far too often think this is a red herring. In most cases we want to believe what isn’t obvious because it doesn’t meet the canon in our minds - I.e Langford is better we should select him.

I think if FOS got to 6. You would take him.

But if it’s Langford or Smillie. Swinging for the fences on Smillie is not only the most logical for where you’re at with your list. But the fact it’s the player with the highest upside besides Tauru in this draft. Who doesn’t have the limitations physically that Langford may have.

Either way I don’t think you lose. I just don’t believe it’s a massive secret for you at 1 and 6 right now.

10, 11 etc yeah that could throw a surprise or two up.

 

[GWS Goose]

Not with the changes to the points table.

2 3rd rnd picks in most cases is likley to be more points than 1 second round pick. unless it ends up being pick 20 compared to pick 53 & 54 or something. Assuming all picks are in the middle somewhere, someone chasing points is still better off.

 

[sydney_gws]

It says we’re eyeing the future second so I guess if Adelaide can turn those F3’s into a mid F2 we’ll snap it up and then work on packaging our F2’s into this draft. 4 will probably still get FOS or Draper. Or Tauru if we’ve fallen that way. Get some mid to later talls in.

Could you offer your 2025r1,r2 for 19, Sydney's 2025r1

( assume you finish 12th, Sydney 5th) that is
7,25 for 19,14. A good deal longer term for Sydney. Maybe a similar deal for 21,GWSr1 could be suggested as well.
I think more likely GWS do that, unless GWS is doing the 13,29 for 16,21 swap.

 

[JGreezy]

Hawthorn future second wouldn’t be enticing to North surely!!

I might be wrong here, but don't North need to hold at least one F2 or F1 pick?

They really didn't want multiple F3s, they want an F2, any F2. Which implies that North need an F2 so that they can trade their F2 and F1 into this draft.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Could you offer your 2025r1,r2 for 19, Sydney's 2025r1

( assume you finish 12th, Sydney 5th) that is
7,25 for 19,14. A good deal longer term for Sydney. Maybe a similar deal for 21,GWSr1 could be suggested as well.
I think more likely GWS do that, unless GWS is doing the 13,29 for 16,21 swap.

I don’t hate it but I figure you’ve put up the best case scenario as to where those picks fall. Do the Swans have any academy picks next year?

 

[the big lebowski]

Could you offer your 2025r1,r2 for 19, Sydney's 2025r1

( assume you finish 12th, Sydney 5th) that is
7,25 for 19,14. A good deal longer term for Sydney. Maybe a similar deal for 21,GWSr1 could be suggested as well.
I think more likely GWS do that, unless GWS is doing the 13,29 for 16,21 swap.

Im hoping it all depends on the player available. The only reason we would be doing this is to get a solid KPP (preferably forward in my view) a year early. If the guy we want is off the board we may as well hold onto our F1

 

[Rich01]

Re Smillie at 6 talk.

People far too often think this is a red herring. In most cases we want to believe what isn’t obvious because it doesn’t meet the canon in our minds - I.e Langford is better we should select him.

I think if FOS got to 6. You would take him.

But if it’s Langford or Smillie. Swinging for the fences on Smillie is not only the most logical for where you’re at with your list. But the fact it’s the player with the highest upside besides Tauru in this draft. Who doesn’t have the limitations physically that Langford may have.

Either way I don’t think you lose. I just don’t believe it’s a massive secret for you at 1 and 6 right now.

10, 11 etc yeah that could throw a surprise or two up.

I don’t disagree regarding both being great options.

But the days of picking one player over the other because of junior club affiliation is long gone and the only minor advantage this may give us is an extra insight into the players character whether that’s positive or negative.

They will pick the best player they see for the long term based on current talent and expected realisation of potential.

How they rank Langford vs Smillie vs FOS will only be known by a small handful of people at the club.

Everyone else is just guessing.

 

[stavro#4]

I don’t disagree regarding both being great options.

But the days of picking one player over the other because of junior club affiliation is long gone and the only minor advantage this may give us is an extra insight into the players character whether that’s positive or negative.

They will pick the best player they see for the long term based on current talent and expected realisation of potential.

How they rank Langford vs Smillie vs FOS will only be known by a small handful of people at the club.

Everyone else is just guessing.

Well not quite.

I don’t think you are going to draft Smillie because he shares a junior club with Hartley. But when your splitting hairs with the top 7 prospects the fact that Hartley has that intimate knowledge probably pushes him past other prospects at 6.

As far as everyone else is just guessing… Twomey proves every year that as long as a pandemic isn’t running wild he slam dunks the top 7.

 

[Rich01]

Well not quite.

I don’t think you are going to draft Smillie because he shares a junior club with Hartley. But when your splitting hairs with the top 7 prospects the fact that Hartley has that intimate knowledge probably pushes him past other prospects at 6.

As far as everyone else is just guessing… Twomey proves every year that as long as a pandemic isn’t running wild he slam dunks the top 7.

In regards to Twomey, yes he does.
So you are saying he’s locked in Smillie at our second pick? I haven’t seen his phantom. Can you show me?

 

[Rich01]

Well not quite.

I don’t think you are going to draft Smillie because he shares a junior club with Hartley. But when you’re splitting hairs with the top 7 prospects the fact that Hartley has that intimate knowledge probably pushes him past other prospects at 6.

Yes, if all else is equal and there’s something that pushes him forward or back in the way they rank him by Hartleys association with the club then by all means. But who is to know his inside knowledge isn’t negative? You assume it’s positive.

 

[stavro#4]

In regards to Twomey, yes he does.
So you are saying he’s locked in Smillie at our second pick? I haven’t seen his phantom. Can you show me?

Yes, if all else is equal and there’s something that pushes him forward or back in the way they rank him by Hartleys association with the club then by all means. But who is to know his inside knowledge isn’t negative? You assume it’s positive.

You are trying to counter every journo in the past week linking you to Smillie at 6 with - they are assumptions they are not based on knowledge

So right back at you.

How do you know that they don’t have knowledge he is your choice ?

 

[richoatthedisco]

Im hoping it all depends on the player available. The only reason we would be doing this is to get a solid KPP (preferably forward in my view) a year early. If the guy we want is off the board we may as well hold onto our F1

You'd be able to get two of Armstrong, Shanahan, Whitlock and Faull at 10 and 18.

 

[adonski]

Looking for clarification to the rumour that if I argue a point strong enough it means my club gets the player I want

 

[the big lebowski]

You'd be able to get two of Armstrong, Shanahan, Whitlock and Faull at 10 and 18.

And im sure north would do F1 and f2 for 10 and 18

 

[richoatthedisco]

And im sure north would do F1 and f2 for 10 and 18

Na, you can keep both of them.